Having only ever handled a Luger once and never shot one, my only real knowledge of the gun is hearsay. There's some fetishization of the Luger where it's the best ever gun which never fails and should still be the standard issue pistol for everybody and everything today, which makes it difficult to separate myth from reality. I found it easier to believe that as an early semi auto it had problems with the funky toggle lock in mud when I heard that, since the one I handled wouldn't go fully into battery due to grit. They talk about that a little in the video.
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Welcome to the family, you beautiful girl, you.
Got bored, figured I'd take a pic.
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[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;51150853]and wasn't there one guy on here that wanted .22lr cases for some weird reason?
[editline]4th October 2016[/editline]
yeah that[/QUOTE]
There was also some people who swage .22lr casings into jackets for .223 bullets. Guess I'll pick up some .22 cases and see if I can try it later.
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Welcome to the family, you beautiful girl, you.[/QUOTE]
Out of curiosity, did you experience any blistering or itching after taking photos of your rifles. There's a bit of poison ivy near that stock.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;51152997]Out of curiosity, did you experience any blistering or itching after taking photos of your rifles. There's a bit of poison ivy near that stock.[/QUOTE]
Only chumps react to poison ivy.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;51152997]Out of curiosity, did you experience any blistering or itching after taking photos of your rifles. There's a bit of poison ivy near that stock.[/QUOTE]
Grew up in Georgia, I'm pretty much immune to that shit by now honestly
Poison ivy/oak is about the only green thing I'm not allergic to.
[QUOTE=dude709;51150532]Amd is still being imported but with new barrels[/QUOTE]
IMO, the new 16" barrel versions look dorky, the 14.5" with pinned brake looked better.
AMDs are goofy looking in general
AMDs actually look like an AK got halfway built, then finished with literally any object within arms reach of the final builder.
Saw a SCAR 17 at the local store yesterday. Beautiful rifle, really. The price tag made me want to weep though.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;51154428]AMDs actually look like an AK got halfway built, then finished with literally any object within arms reach of the final builder.[/QUOTE]
I kinda like them ,plus the lightweight build is a plus.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51155611]Saw a SCAR 17 at the local store yesterday. Beautiful rifle, really. The price tag made me want to weep though.[/QUOTE]
I'd love a scar but gahhh almost 3k for one is steep they are a damn pretty rifle though
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;51151066]Where on earth did you hear that Lugers are unreliable?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51151079]Having only ever handled a Luger once and never shot one, my only real knowledge of the gun is hearsay. There's some fetishization of the Luger where it's the best ever gun which never fails and should still be the standard issue pistol for everybody and everything today, which makes it difficult to separate myth from reality. I found it easier to believe that as an early semi auto it had problems with the funky toggle lock in mud when I heard that, since the one I handled wouldn't go fully into battery due to grit. They talk about that a little in the video.[/QUOTE]
There's a kernel of truth to the claim of unreliability, but it's not actually that the gun is unreliable, it's more that the toggle-action is very picky about ammunition. Basically, because the Luger's bolt/toggle has a lot less mass than the slide on a conventional short-recoil handgun, it relies on a fairly strong spring to properly counteract recoil and strip rounds from the mag. Weaker ammo has a much harder time cycling the action than on a 1911 derivative.
GIs bringing back Lugers as prizes shot American-made 9mm, which was loaded a little weaker than German milsurp, and the resulting problems were attributed to the gun rather than the ammo. When loaded with the correct ammo, they're generally considered reliable and effective.
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Welcome to the family, you beautiful girl, you.[/QUOTE]
Oh and I forgot to mention, I picked her up for about $750 trade value. I lucked the fuck out.
Shweet:
FK BRNO Announces Immediate Importation to the USA of the 7.5 Field Pistol
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ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN:
Molot To Produce The Vintorez Suppressed AK
Details on the Molot Vintorez are still limited, however the release is set for early 2017 with a price tag of $1,500 USD.
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A coworker of mine has sold so many springfield products they're sending him a free M1A. I'm envious.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;51157344]Shweet:
FK BRNO Announces Immediate Importation to the USA of the 7.5 Field Pistol
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ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN:
Molot To Produce The Vintorez Suppressed AK
Details on the Molot Vintorez are still limited, however the release is set for early 2017 with a price tag of $1,500 USD.
[url]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/05/molot-vintorez/[/url]
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Wait, what? Am I hallucinating?
They'd have to set up a factory in the US to build them from parts kits. Also, you'd have to buy a partial weapon, then wait for the tax stamp to get the suppressor body. Looks like it'd count as an SBR too, so you'd have that to deal with.
Also, they'd have to either start importing ammo (unlikely), set up their own factory (expensive), or contract with one of the big manufacturers to set up an assembly line for them (still expensive, plus there's a risk of getting screwed in negotiations).
Molot can import complete rifles, I believe. SBR and can stamp are problems but not unbeatable.
Honestly as much as I'd love a Vintorez I think I'd rather another SVD import run.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51157447]Molot can import complete rifles, I believe. SBR and can stamp are problems but not unbeatable.
Honestly as much as I'd love a Vintorez I think I'd rather another SVD import run.[/QUOTE]
There is no way a VSS would be allowed to be imported complete.
[QUOTE=MAC21500;51157344]Shweet:
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN:
Molot To Produce The Vintorez Suppressed AK
Details on the Molot Vintorez are still limited, however the release is set for early 2017 with a price tag of $1,500 USD.
[url]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/05/molot-vintorez/[/url]
[img]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/IMG_4228-495x660.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
It's amazing how short the true barrel is and how much is actually just suppressor and very simple baffles.
So apparently someone tried to import one of those PPS-43 semi pistols from the US to Canada 3 years ago, and was just now informed by the RCMP that they've arbitrarily decided that it's prohibited, most likely for being "easily convertible to full-auto."
There is, of course, no real recourse that can be taken against this, because the RCMP adamantly refuse to explain how "easy" their definition of "easily" is (if it consistently takes you 3 fucking years to find some reason to make up to ban the fucking thing then there's nothing "easy" about it you shitheads), and while you can potentially take them to court where they would be required to show it that's very expensive and not something most people/businesses can afford to do.
So, I had a customer give me $25 as a tip and a 225 round box of Remington .22lr hollows after I finished his install because I made a joke that made him laugh.
So yeah... That was my day today, and the reason I have an excuse to go to the range Friday after work now...
Hate to say it but theres no way they can import a VSS into the US. Trying to get a suppressed, SBR, semi auto, and a mag fed rifle through US importation will be impossible.
[editline]6th October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51157447]Molot can import complete rifles, I believe. SBR and can stamp are problems but not unbeatable.
Honestly as much as I'd love a Vintorez I think I'd rather another SVD import run.[/QUOTE]
They can import a gimped gun and then convert it in the US, they cant import an SBR.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51157437]They'd have to set up a factory in the US to build them from parts kits. Also, you'd have to buy a partial weapon, then wait for the tax stamp to get the suppressor body. Looks like it'd count as an SBR too, so you'd have that to deal with.
Also, they'd have to either start importing ammo (unlikely), set up their own factory (expensive), or contract with one of the big manufacturers to set up an assembly line for them (still expensive, plus there's a risk of getting screwed in negotiations).[/QUOTE]
It would make sense to make it in 7.62x39 for the American market. With it running a ported suppressed barrel it would probably just be some minor tweaks to keep it subsonic.
I wouldn't mind seeing a .300blk version myself.
Still, good luck importing a suppressed SBR that takes double-stack magazines. The ATF would, to quote my old Drill Sergeant, "lose their goddamn minds".
This isn't really that difficult of a problem to solve - you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. Import them as rifles with full-length barrels, then import the cans and the proper barrels and either let users buy the part and do the conversion themselves or have the importer on this side of the pond do it. Chambering them in .300 blackout makes sense; it's essentially our domestic 9x39. There is another cartridge called .358 Gremlin which is even closer to 9x39.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;51160063]could import them with """"muzzle brakes"""" like the mpx?[/QUOTE]
That too. I think if a fake suppressor was pinned and welded to the short VSS barrel as a "muzzle brake" you'd be able to skirt the SBR law, though putting a real suppressor on it later would probably be harder. I'd probably buy one with a fake suppressor since I don't care about the quiet enough to deal with getting a tax stamp, at least not immediately.
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