I haven't even started on mine yet besides cleaning up some of the slag. I'm thinking I'll build mine as a blank-firing machine gun to preserve the original operating principle and convert it for live fire legally in the future if it's ever possible.
A proud day indeed, I turned 21 this year and after some financial strife, I finally bought my first handgun.
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[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51558678]I haven't even started on mine yet besides cleaning up some of the slag. I'm thinking I'll build mine as a blank-firing machine gun to preserve the original operating principle and convert it for live fire legally in the future if it's ever possible.[/QUOTE]
Definitely sounds more appealing than turning it into a wonky, single-shot carbine.
That was my thinking... most of the fun with a gun like this is just letting it rip and feeling it jump around in your hands.
Yeah, but consider that you could make a slide fire stock for a Sten real easily and it wouldn't even look out of place. Throw on an SBR stamp and you could have a proper-looking Sten with makeshift full auto.
By the way, I got the C96 running nicely. The stripper clips do take a little bit of force to push the bolt back a millimeter or so to seat, but it doesn't feel like it's hurting the extractor any. I dumped all my stripper clips in a bag of Evapo-Rust for a day, then rinsed and oiled, and now they're very smooth and strip rounds cleanly. It's really a lot of fun to shoot and doesn't flip as much as I thought it would.
The Sten's trigger [I]sucks[/I]. I'm not convinced a slide fire stock would really work for it.
Congrats on getting the C96 running. They really are a pleasure to work and shoot, nowhere near as awkward as they look. Did your hammer bite you? The first few shots I tried to snug up way too high on the grip and it chewed up the web of my thumb.
What have I done?
I may have just bought a Kel-tec RFB.
Tell me how it is. I think they're really cool looking, and after playing with one I actually still wanted one, which was a first for Kel-Tecs (and bullpups) for me.
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;51559818]What have I done?
I may have just bought a Kel-tec RFB.[/QUOTE]
Sorry
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;51559818]What have I done?
I may have just bought a Kel-tec RFB.[/QUOTE]
I hope to hell your store has a decent returns policy.
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;51559818]What have I done?
I may have just bought a Kel-tec RFB.[/QUOTE]
I'll take it off your hands if it doesn't work out.
FUCKING HELL.
The NEW EU-REGULATIONS PASSED.
As far as I understand it, if I put a 2 round magazine in my Mini-14, it's a Category C weapon.
Put in a 3 round magazine, it's not magically a category B weapon.
Put in a 10 round magazine? It's a Category A weapon, on the same fucking level as Hellfire-missiles, scud-rockets and armored tanks.
If I have a pistol and put a 19 round magazine in it? Cat B
20 round magazine? Instantly Saddam Hussein-tier war criminal, Dear Glorious EU President Jean-Claude Von Junkface will personally be the one to tie my noose after he hangs for owning a Cat A weapon.
New regs: [url]http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-16-4465_en.htm[/url]
Explanation of current/old regs: [url]https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/eu.php[/url]
Christ, that's retarded and they're calling it a compromised.
Well, your straight-pull AR will be a Cat A rifle regardless wether it's semi-auto or not, when you put a 30 round mag in it.
whats with gun grabbers taking just a little more from magazines every time it comes around
a compromise isn't a compromise if you keep taking more after lol
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;51561149]FUCKING HELL.
The NEW EU-REGULATIONS PASSED.
As far as I understand it, if I put a 2 round magazine in my Mini-14, it's a Category C weapon.
Put in a 3 round magazine, it's not magically a category B weapon.
Put in a 10 round magazine? It's a Category A weapon, on the same fucking level as Hellfire-missiles, scud-rockets and armored tanks.
If I have a pistol and put a 19 round magazine in it? Cat B
20 round magazine? Instantly Saddam Hussein-tier war criminal, Dear Glorious EU President Jean-Claude Von Junkface will personally be the one to tie my noose after he hangs for owning a Cat A weapon.
New regs: [url]http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-16-4465_en.htm[/url]
Explanation of current/old regs: [url]https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/eu.php[/url][/QUOTE]
Norexit soon?
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51561605]Norexit soon?[/QUOTE]
The problem is, Norway is not even part of the EU, we are part of the EEA which is an even bigger scam.
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;51561607]The problem is, Norway is not even part of the EU, we are part of the EEA which is an even bigger scam.[/QUOTE]
Huh. Didn't know that.
Is there a review/appeal period for the new regs? Because I can almost guarantee you a large part of Switzerland is going to be pissed.
What the hell was I thinking? We're gonna be so poor...
tbh though I've just been waiting for a reason to check out this local gunshop. Now I have a quirky battle rifle to go drool at and maybe even take it home?
Good god, if this turns out like the resident fper's KSG...
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;51557861]
Did you at least walk him through on how to field strip it for cleaning?[/QUOTE]
As much as we try and be an informative and friendly store, being at the rental counter on a busy day I didn't have the luxury of time. We actually have a lot of people come in asking if we can teach them/offer a class on weapon maintenance.
Story time!
To preface this, I'll share that we're a high end range. Tablet powered lanes, 75 feet for our rifle bays, we have an AR build class and sell plenty of suppressors, short barreled rifles, and AOW shotguns every month. It's a bit expensive to shoot there. With this much money, we're big on safety and have only had one suicide in the four years we've been open (ranges usually have one a year statistically).
The case of the bad day.
Guy comes in, comes straight to the range counter and asks what he can rent. Standard speech, standard questions (size, caliber, brand preference, shooting experience). "Surprise me, a 9mm preferably." I've been told by management if I suspect someone of being sierra whiskey (suicide watch) that I can drag on the conversation, even pull him into one of our classrooms and ask if he's feeling depressed, would like to talk, etc. Guy just says he wants to shoot, his eyes are clean and he doesn't smell of booze (after this I experience learned I could send people away if I suspected drugs or depression), but off his goes with a rented glock 19, "any target I don't care", and 50 rounds. While he's in our range air lock I whisper over the radio to our RSOs to "watch this guy" (at this point I didn't know our call sign for sierra whiskey). RSOs are confused, I've told another coworker at the range desk, he takes the radio and says much louder "WATCH HIM SHOOT.". With two RSOs watching him the entire time, pretty much giving him a $60 private lesson so they could be so close he comes out a better shot and smiling. Turns out he really was having a shitty day. Repeat this twice every three months and RSOs and myself have become better and recognizing the depressed vs stressed/mopey.
Wow, it sucks that thats a common issue.
There was a guy a few months ago that brought a 12ga shell into the main gun shop here, picked up a shotgun out on the floor, and ate the barrel. Took them weeks to clean out the mess and reopen. Since then there are trigger or action locks on all the floor guns now.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51559690]Did your hammer bite you? The first few shots I tried to snug up way too high on the grip and it chewed up the web of my thumb.[/QUOTE]
Oddly, no. I did see how there's a little gap under the hammer where it comes back under recoil that could bite, but I found that a comfortable grip didn't require me to squeeze the web of my thumb up against it.
I did whack the fuck out of my thumb once when I had the shoulder stock attached and didn't pay attention to my thumb placement after reloading. There's no good way to wrap my thumb around the grip with the stock in the way so I just do the thumb-on-the-right-side grip.
Also, kind of random, but I plan to bring it to the local gun show in a week and a half and they require all guns to be ziptied. I was thinking I'd put the tie around the back of the bolt so that it just prevents the gun from fully going into battery, but I'm not sure if that might make the hammer stick out too far to close the holster. Thoughts? Is there a better way to do it?
They tried to zip tie mine at the gun show and gave up after a few minutes and just told me to keep it away from ammunition. They put a tie through the hammer ring to show it'd been checked but it did nothing to prevent it from operating. I carried mine in my thigh holster rather than using the wood holster since I don't want the wood to sand off what remains of my finish, and my stock is janky as fuck so I can't tell you how it might play with a real one. My guess is an original will be much more snug than mine is so having the hammer out of battery even a little might prevent it from snapping.
Here's the guy who made mine & his post about it on his page: [url]https://www.facebook.com/darmanprops/photos/a.712498105515519.1073741833.646174852147845/977621465669847/?type=3&theater[/url]
You might get in touch with him, it's a great holster. Jimmema got one from him too. Tell him you [I]also[/I] know the guy in Texas :v: You won't get it before the gun show but you'll be prepared for the next one.
That is a [i]very[/i] slick holster. How much did it run you?
Think it was $60, it's the best solution for the C96 I've found yet out a few different holsters I've tried. It is real leather and it holds the pistol very snugly since it's adapted from the DL-44 holster prop. It looks nice, too, unlike vintage patterns. You can have him make yours without the Imperial cog but I decided to keep it.
The runner-up is a Chinese military holster I have which isn't really a holster as much as it is a way to put a strap on the pistol so that it hangs at your side. You can fire the gun while it's in that holster. Here is the guy who made that one: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Repro-WW2-Chinese-Army-Mauser-C96-10-Round-Q-R-Holster-/172324655478?hash=item281f599176:g:LiMAAOSwQItUIiVf[/url]
The Chinese solution is alright but I prefer the thigh holster because the gun won't swing around and knock into stuff.
I'm a true memester now:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/826zFYA.jpg[/t]
i gave away my AK banana mag to my /k/ secret santa recipient
PSA's Christmas clearance email: "Case of 42 Blem AK 47 Mags"
Jesus.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51564143]Think it was $60, it's the best solution for the C96 I've found yet out a few different holsters I've tried. It is real leather and it holds the pistol very snugly since it's adapted from the DL-44 holster prop. It looks nice, too, unlike vintage patterns. You can have him make yours without the Imperial cog but I decided to keep it.
The runner-up is a Chinese military holster I have which isn't really a holster as much as it is a way to put a strap on the pistol so that it hangs at your side. You can fire the gun while it's in that holster. Here is the guy who made that one: [URL]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Repro-WW2-Chinese-Army-Mauser-C96-10-Round-Q-R-Holster-/172324655478?hash=item281f599176:g:LiMAAOSwQItUIiVf[/URL]
The Chinese solution is alright but I prefer the thigh holster because the gun won't swing around and knock into stuff.[/QUOTE]
That Chinese holster with the exposed action parts is certainly interesting, but I'm not sure how safe I'd feel carrying something that can flop around with the hammer exposed, since the safety doesn't seem to prevent the hammer from depressing the firing pin and actually firing the gun if it were struck or dropped, and cocked-and-locked seems hazardous with an exposed trigger and a safety that could snag on all sorts of things. Oddly, I keep reading references online to the gun having inertial firing pin, which would make it safe to carry with the hammer down on a live round, but that must have come about on a later model because on the one I have the firing pin rests flush with the bolt face and visibly protrudes when pushed.
I'll think about the drop-leg. To be honest I'm not sure when I'd ever OC the gun besides at the gun show, but I do have an airsoft M712 on pre-order that I could use a decent holster setup for.
The C96 is drop safe. If you engage the safety while the hammer is down, the hammer is moved away from the firing pin and locked in place. If you engage it while it's cocked, you have to pull the hammer back with your thumb to push the safety up, which has it resting on the safety's block. In both conditions, there is a sturdy physical block preventing the hammer from coming down. In other words, you'd have to hit it hard enough to actually destroy the gun permanently in order for the hammer to overcome the safety.
The thigh holster is good for range use. I don't OC the gun except at the gun show like you said, but I don't like to put it down when on the range, so I bring the holster. I'm paranoid because last time I took it to my buddy's ranch, I put it in its case on the table and someone put it on the ATV while we were packing up. It bounced off the 4 wheeler and the driver didn't notice and it took us a few hours to find it by combing the trail. It had landed in tall grass and the case broke open, and shortly after we found it, it had started to rain. Odds are it wouldn't have been seen again until the lawnmower ran over it this coming spring. Ever since then, the gun hasn't left my side in when out and about. :v:
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;51562763]They tried to zip tie mine at the gun show and gave up after a few minutes and just told me to keep it away from ammunition. They put a tie through the hammer ring to show it'd been checked but it did nothing to prevent it from operating. I carried mine in my thigh holster rather than using the wood holster since I don't want the wood to sand off what remains of my finish, and my stock is janky as fuck so I can't tell you how it might play with a real one. My guess is an original will be much more snug than mine is so having the hammer out of battery even a little might prevent it from snapping.
Here's the guy who made mine & his post about it on his page: [url]https://www.facebook.com/darmanprops/photos/a.712498105515519.1073741833.646174852147845/977621465669847/?type=3&theater[/url]
You might get in touch with him, it's a great holster. Jimmema got one from him too. Tell him you [I]also[/I] know the guy in Texas :v: You won't get it before the gun show but you'll be prepared for the next one.[/QUOTE]
Last time I brought mine to a gun show the guy at the check in was smart. He took two zip ties, put one down the barrel, then clipped them into eachother.
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