Friendly Reminder: Stop pirating. - General

[QUOTE=jjsullivan;24399586]It won't matter, a search warrant is a search warrant.[/QUOTE] But if you're your own ISP, and only YOU use it, dont you think it'd be just a BIT harder to find you?

[QUOTE=Nohj;24399570]I like how everyone just comes out and says they are pirating in this thread like it wont get them banned.[/QUOTE] We are all anti-piracy. Or at least to the people who deserve it, VIACOM can kiss my ass.

[QUOTE=Nohj;24399609]Oh wow these people are stupid[/QUOTE] I truly never saw those posts. :sigh: Really FP? Don't tell people about your linux distros. [editline]09:22PM[/editline] [QUOTE=jjsullivan;24399623]We are all anti-piracy. Or at least to the people who deserve it, VIACOM can kiss my ass.[/QUOTE] You've never been to the GMF have you?

Sigh, this is stupid. This is not how you stop piracy at all. If you're close to fans of your product and such instead of being a moneywhoring asshole, they will not pirate. Plus, this will encourage other forms of net censorship/enforcement, such as arresting people for "cyberbullying", and getting rid of net neutrality for corporation's interests. I really hope this doesn't go succeed. The government should not be favoring corporations over individuals with rights.

Brb moving to Norway

this won't work out at all.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;24399640]Brb moving to [B]Sweden[/B][/QUOTE] Fixed.

[QUOTE=Skelmech;24399618]But if you're your own ISP, and only YOU use it, dont you think it'd be just a BIT harder to find you?[/QUOTE] Woah building an ISP connection for yourself?! Well, I guess. Maybe the internet will be just the "internet" again for a while.

[QUOTE=Skelmech;24399618]But if you're your own ISP, and only YOU use it, dont you think it'd be just a BIT harder to find you?[/QUOTE] yea, i'd just store the 'stuff' in encrypted solid-state drives hidden beneath the floorboards. or something like that.

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;24399656]Fixed.[/QUOTE] Sweden's part of the EU

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;24399639]Sigh, this is stupid. This is not how you stop piracy at all. If you're close to fans of your product and such instead of being a moneywhoring asshole, they will not pirate. Plus, this will encourage other forms of net censorship/enforcement, such as arresting people for "cyberbullying", and getting rid of net neutrality for corporation's interests. I really hope this doesn't go succeed. The government should not be favoring corporations over individuals with rights.[/QUOTE] I agree. The way you stop piracy is embracing it and becoming part of it. Look at the artists who [I]encourage[/I] people to steal their songs and pass them out to their friends. They make a shit load of cash because the people who like the music will buy it and chances are if they are downloading it they like it.

[QUOTE=Skelmech;24399627]You've never been to the GMF have you?[/QUOTE] They deal with issues between NA and EU. But what do they have to do directly with VIACOM or any other big corporation?

I never pirated games or music.

So it's either Norway or Iceland. Where should I move?

Let's all make a petition,get 500 million people to sign it,show it to the government,second last resort is riot,last resort is weapons.but we don't need to use that do we? Anyway I like the idea of your own isp,Facepunch hurry up and make Facepunch internet!10 dollars every month!

If the pirate bay can get itself hosted within the parliament, i think i can safely say this won't matter worth shit.

[QUOTE=jjsullivan;24399712]They deal with issues between NA and EU. But what do they have to do directly with VIACOM or any other big corporation?[/QUOTE] Sorry, GMF as in [B]G[/B]old [B]M[/B]embers [B]F[/B]ourm Accept my friend request on steam and ill tell you all about it

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;24399736]So it's either Norway or Iceland. Where should I move?[/QUOTE] Maybe you should just stay where you are and protest a bit. Unless you do want to go to Norway.

[QUOTE=Nohj;24399686]I agree. The way you stop piracy is embracing it and becoming part of it. Look at the artists who [I]encourage[/I] people to steal their songs and pass them out to their friends. They make a shit load of cash because the people who like the music will buy it and chances are if they are downloading it they like it.[/QUOTE] Buy there music does nothing for the band more of the recording company. Though the fact you steal there music and like means you will most likely go to there concerts. That is why they like the fact you steal it, the recording company not so much though.

[QUOTE=DELL;24399767]Buy there music does nothing for the band more of the recording company. Though the fact you steal there music and like means you will most likely go to there concerts. That is why they like the fact you steal it, the recording company not so much though.[/QUOTE] I was talking like the indie bands or whatever but yeah. It applies.

i dont understand

Here is a guide on E-how to become your own ISP,we should try it facepunch.just imagine "Facepunch Broadband Internet,only 9 dollars a month!" it would be very awesome. [url]http://www.ehow.com/how_4616715_become-broadband-isp.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Nohj;24399686]I agree. The way you stop piracy is embracing it and becoming part of it. Look at the artists who [I]encourage[/I] people to steal their songs and pass them out to their friends. They make a shit load of cash because the people who like the music will buy it and chances are if they are downloading it they like it.[/QUOTE] Also, I can understand taking action against distributors of pirated material, but punishing those that download the material is not just. Not only is it human nature to download, but pirating should make corporations realize that they shouldn't be dickwads to make lots of money. Just look at companies like Valve. They never, in any way, punish paying customers because of what pirates do. And yet still they deliver us great deals at normal prices without raising them. Companies like Ubisoft, however, are different. They choose to punish paying customers in many ways, such as kicking them out of a game they payed for if they lose a single packet, while pirates can play the game just fine with no issues whatsoever. What punished customers in a sad attempt to stop pirates failed, and even after it was very easily cracked, they kept the DRM. They also made it so that you buy a digital copy of their game, you can only download it for a month after your purchase. After that, you have to pay $4 to extend it. That's a combination of failed DRM [I]and[/I] money whoring. EA also downloads DRM such as SECUROM to the kernal of the downloader's hard drive without notifying/warning the customer at all, and it can only be gotten rid of by wiping your hard drive.

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;24399807]Also, I can understand taking action against distributors of pirated material, but punishing those that download the material is not just. Not only is it human nature to download, but pirating should make corporations realize that they shouldn't be dickwads to make lots of money. Just look at companies like Valve. They never, in any way, punish paying customers because of what pirates do. And yet still they deliver us great deals at normal prices without raising them. Companies like Ubisoft, however, are different. They choose to punish paying customers in many ways, such as kicking them out of a game they payed for if they lose a single packet, while pirates can play the game just fine with no issues whatsoever. What punished customers in a sad attempt to stop pirates failed, and even after it was very easily cracked, they kept the DRM. They also made it so that you buy a digital copy of their game, you can only download it for a month after your purchase. After that, you have to pay $4 to extend it. That's a combination of failed DRM [I]and[/I] money whoring. EA also downloads DRM such as SECUROM to the kernal of the downloader's hard drive without notifying/warning the customer at all, and it can only be gotten rid of by wiping your hard drive.[/QUOTE] Punkbuster reserves the right to scan your computer for [B]any[/B] illegal content and report it to the government also. /off topic

[QUOTE=Nohj;24399792]I was talking like the indie bands or whatever but yeah. It applies.[/QUOTE] It apples to indie bands as well unless they are doing all the producing and selling.

I don't think the government should have any authority to monitor or force internet providers to monitor users.

Wait, I'm confused. How will they begin to tell what music is pirated and what isn't? And I refuse to believe 50 FBI agents'll track down every single peer with a file.

[QUOTE=jjsullivan;24399405]I'm fully aware of the existence of search warrants, but seriously if your a government investigator trying to bust someone on the internet whats your chances of getting a search warrant now? Now they can be anywhere they want to, 24/7.[/QUOTE] Having more [i]potential[/i] for free reign doesn't necessarily mean they'll change the current level of enforcement. It isn't like there's a huge laundry list of protection measures they're planning to implement that they couldn't already put in place. [QUOTE=Mobon1;24399931]Wait, I'm confused. How will they begin to tell what music is pirated and what isn't?[/QUOTE] They... Won't. Probably. Unless they're going to get a search warrant for every single suspicious hard drive or subpeona thousands of records from ISPs, ACTA doesn't really change things all that much. It still takes more work than most groups are willing to put in.

[QUOTE=Orayn;24399949]Having more [i]potential[/i] for free reign doesn't necessarily mean they'll change the current level of enforcement. It isn't like there's a huge laundry list of protection measures they're planning to implement that they couldn't already put in place. They... Won't. Probably. Unless they're going to get a search warrant for every single suspicious hard drive or subpeona thousands of records from ISPs, ACTA doesn't really change things all that much. It still takes more work than most groups are willing to put in.[/QUOTE] Even though I don't have anything illegal on my hdd, I would smash it to pieces before anyone can search it if they even try.

[QUOTE=Nohj;24399686]I agree. The way you stop piracy is embracing it and becoming part of it. Look at the artists who [I]encourage[/I] people to steal their songs and pass them out to their friends. They make a shit load of cash because the people who like the music will buy it and chances are if they are downloading it they like it.[/QUOTE] Yes, the artists don't make money from albums, the record companies hog it all. The artists make their money off concerts (which I think is more fare anyways, because they are working for it). Look at bands like Nine Inch Nails, they go and tell their fans to pirate their music because the companies refuse to drop the prices when they ask. NIN make a shit ton of money, because almost every one of their fans will go and see them live.