Both far sides of politics are horrible, everybody knows that.
the only reason they have to support trump is racism and that's that
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50828927]Some, some of his supporters are backwards ass hicks that at best use vitriolic language.
The other side actively engages in violence against those they disagree with. How are they any better?[/QUOTE]
trump literally advocates violence and he wants to ban some religions and racial groups from entering the country in addition to reintroducing torture
if hillary started talking shit about Muslims she'd automatically get this crowd
[QUOTE=Pops;50827792]okay, now let's get a hillary video.[/QUOTE]
How?
Hillary's supporters are the most level-headed, open-minded, tolerant, most wonderful people on the face of planet Earth.
politics gives me diarrhea.
I bet once this is all over and we have a new president, they will suddenly go dead quiet. I swear they are the fucking loudest right before the election.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50828927]Some, some of his supporters are backwards ass hicks that at best use vitriolic language.
The other side actively engages in violence against those they disagree with. How are they any better?[/QUOTE]
I think we can agree that both sides have demonstrated some disgusting behavior. But I'm far less inclined to give Trump supporters any credit given that they support a candidate who built his campaign on a foundation of institutional racism, while (generally) the radicals on the left are more or less outliers.
I mean.. I'm not a Trump supporter by any means, but the NY Times is notoriously extreme left-wing. I can't help but think they cherry-picked the worst of the worst from their footage to make it look worse than it actually is
I'm sure any extreme right-wing media would do the same against Bernie or Hillary
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50828945]trump literally advocates violence and he wants to ban some religions and racial groups from entering the country in addition to reintroducing torture[/QUOTE]
And the left's reaction to this?
[video=youtube;R_jq5iUqtBo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jq5iUqtBo[/video]
[video=youtube;tLtTznFB-lo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLtTznFB-lo[/video]
Look at all those violent neo-nazis and white supremacists :rolleyes:
"Ignorance and Immigrants, they mix together!"
Lmao, pot calling the kettle black there
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50828993]videos[/QUOTE]
Always a shame to see videos like this. Regardless of who you politically support, democrat or republican, you should not have to fear for your safety due to your beliefs.
Lest we all become monsters.
[QUOTE=153x;50828245]just because you are too god damn thick to admit that it's better to vote in yet another corrupt corporate politician over a lunatic that promotes violence and segregation.[/QUOTE]
is it though? should we put in another piece of shit puppet who will waste four years on bullshit, or someone who will break the status quo, even if he is a piece of shit as well, and will most likely waste four years on bullshit?
remember, this is the woman who flipped her views conveniently in time on gay marriage, the war in iraq and nafta. she also likes to pretend she's a new yorker, or pennsylvanian.
If "breaking the status quo" means giving a voice to blatantly hateful racists, xenophobes, and violent white supremacists, I think I wanna keep the status quo..........
this video is kind of disheartening
[QUOTE=Pops;50829765]is it though? should we put in another piece of shit puppet who will waste four years on bullshit, or someone who will break the status quo, even if he is a piece of shit as well, and will most likely waste four years on bullshit?
remember, this is the woman who flipped her views conveniently in time on gay marriage, the war in iraq and nafta. she also likes to pretend she's a new yorker, or pennsylvanian.[/QUOTE]
She flipped because public opinion did. Should she not go with her constituents? Let's not forget she opposed gay marriage when the mindset was "kill all the fags" and she flipped when public sentiment supported them.
What do you even want from a politician dude
[QUOTE=DeadCow;50828990]I mean.. I'm not a Trump supporter by any means, but the NY Times is notoriously extreme left-wing. I can't help but think they cherry-picked the worst of the worst from their footage to make it look worse than it actually is
I'm sure any extreme right-wing media would do the same against Bernie or Hillary[/QUOTE]
racists and other hate filled people have literally 0 reason to support bernie or hillary. so i doubt right wing media could come up with something going against them using their supporters, that's not to say it cant be done. but there is a reason that racists support trump rather than the other candidates.
[QUOTE=Pops;50829765]is it though? should we put in another piece of shit puppet who will waste four years on bullshit, or someone who will break the status quo, even if he is a piece of shit as well, and will most likely waste four years on bullshit?
remember, this is the woman who flipped her views conveniently in time on gay marriage, the war in iraq and nafta. she also likes to pretend she's a new yorker, or pennsylvanian.[/QUOTE]
Trump flips his view on almost all of his policies all the time.
Also "the new York times is extreme left wing", they're also the most illustrious print news in America. How does that saying go? "Reality has a well known liberal bias"?
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50828927]Some, some of his supporters are backwards ass hicks that at best use vitriolic language.
The other side actively engages in violence against those they disagree with. How are they any better?[/QUOTE]
And yet Trump [B]himself encourages his voters to be violent stating he'll cover their expenses.[/B]
Yet you have convinced yourself, falsely that he's the non violent one.
You're a riot man, you're an absolute riot.
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50829888]And yet Trump [B]himself encourages his voters to be violent stating he'll cover their expenses.[/B]
Yet you have convinced yourself, falsely that he's the non violent one.
You're a riot man, you're an absolute riot.[/QUOTE]
Can you find massive groups of Trump supporters assaulting Bernie/Hillary supporters? Can you find them throwing bottles at cops and injuring them? Can you find them burning American flags? Can you find them destroying property?
Talk is one thing, action is another.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50829905]Can you find massive groups of Trump supporters assaulting Bernie/Hillary supporters? Can you find them throwing bottles at cops and injuring them? Can you find them burning American flags? Can you find them destroying property?
Talk is one thing, action is another.[/QUOTE]
talk influences actions, they are equally bad. you are also defending trumps call for violence.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50829905]Can you find massive groups of Trump supporters assaulting Bernie/Hillary supporters? Can you find them throwing bottles at cops and injuring them? Can you find them burning American flags? Can you find them destroying property?
Talk is one thing, action is another.[/QUOTE]
Burning the american flag is protected speech, so honestly, who gives a fuck, you're against freedom of speech if you really think that's a crime. So says the US government and supreme courts. But you know better than them, right?
Can you find Hilary supporting violence at her rallies? Can you find the democratic nominee telling their voters to be violent, and to punch people out and that they'll cover the legal fees?
[editline]4th August 2016[/editline]
The candidate that calls for violence
Or
The candidate that doesn't call for violence
Which one do you actually think is worse?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50829919]Burning the american flag is protected speech, so honestly, who gives a fuck, you're against freedom of speech if you really think that's a crime. So says the US government and supreme courts. But you know better than them, right?
Can you find Hilary supporting violence at her rallies? Can you find the democratic nominee telling their voters to be violent, and to punch people out and that they'll cover the legal fees?[/QUOTE]
Continue ignoring the violence the left carries out to silence their opposition.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50829905]Can you find massive groups of Trump supporters assaulting Bernie/Hillary supporters? Can you find them throwing bottles at cops and injuring them? Can you find them burning American flags? Can you find them destroying property?
Talk is one thing, action is another.[/QUOTE]
since when is burning a flag violence?
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50829941]Continue ignoring the violence the left carries out to silence their opposition.[/QUOTE]
I'm not. I just understand that Clinton doesn't call for violence and Trump does.
What clintons voters do isn't in her hands, she's not telling them to be violent. Trump has and is encouraging violence.
You're the only one ignoring the words verbatim out of your candidates mouth because acknowledging that would be like accepting that you want a violent candidate who calls for violence constantly.
But hey, keep dodging away, trump voters always do that
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50829941]Continue ignoring the violence the left carries out to silence their opposition.[/QUOTE]
each side has its radicals, but left candidates are against the attacks on trump supporters. though on the other hand, trump, the possible next president of the united states, is encouraging violence like it is OK to 300+ million people. also the right has its fair share of violent people, in trumps rallies people of color are attacked and kicked out.
I acknowledge it but it doesn't mean I accept it.
People carrying out violent attacks on political opposition is far more concerning than a candidate making remarks at his rallies.
can someone post a clip of trump encouraging violence? it's not that i don't believe you, but in all the clips i've seen i haven't actually seen him promote violence against anyone, and otherwise all i've seen are trump supporters getting attacked for simply supporting trump.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50830000]I acknowledge it but it doesn't mean I accept it.
People carrying out violent attacks on political opposition is far more concerning than a candidate making remarks at his rallies.[/QUOTE]
No, it honestly isn't.
People carrying out attacks in mob violence due to heightend fear and hysteria is understandable, wrong, but understandable.
[B]A potential president of the US telling his voting base that they're free to attack protestors, punch them in the face, etc, and that he will cover their medical and legal bills is not understandable, it is not rational, it is not logical[/B]
Yet you defend this man, and you want this man to lead your country, and you want this man to have power over you. And you say you don't "ACCEPT" it? No sir, you accept it, or such a vile fucking man wouldn't have earned your vote in a way that he can't seem to lose it.
[editline]4th August 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pops;50830013]can someone post a clip of trump encouraging violence? it's not that i don't believe you, but in all the clips i've seen i haven't actually seen him promote violence against anyone, and otherwise all i've seen are trump supporters getting attacked for simply supporting trump.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/feb/23/donald-trump-says-hed-like-to-punch-protester-at-nevada-rally-video[/url]
[editline]4th August 2016[/editline]
You can literally google Trump [B]promoting fucking violence[/B] by typing in Trump Punch
that's how fucking obvious this guys violent desires are, and yet we still have people clamoring to defend him like the fucking messiah
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50830000]I acknowledge it but it doesn't mean I accept it.
People carrying out violent attacks on political opposition is far more concerning than a candidate making remarks at his rallies.[/QUOTE]
a handful of violent attacks is more concerning than the possible president of our nation for 4 years encouraging violence? have you even thought about the bigger picture of this? he doesn't seem to mind starting wars and this is also increasing racial tensions by a fuck ton and i cant imagine what it would be like if he got elected. 4 years of a xenophobic, hateful, racist, fucker that knows nothing of the global economy and how diplomacy works. acting like all diplomacy is "politically correct" and therefore "bad"
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