[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50830019]No, it honestly isn't.
People carrying out attacks in mob violence due to heightend fear and hysteria is understandable, wrong, but understandable.
[B]A potential president of the US telling his voting base that they're free to attack protestors, punch them in the face, etc, and that he will cover their medical and legal bills is not understandable, it is not rational, it is not logical[/B]
Yet you defend this man, and you want this man to lead your country, and you want this man to have power over you. And you say you don't "ACCEPT" it? No sir, you accept it, or such a vile fucking man wouldn't have earned your vote in a way that he can't seem to lose it.
[editline]4th August 2016[/editline]
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/feb/23/donald-trump-says-hed-like-to-punch-protester-at-nevada-rally-video[/url]
[editline]4th August 2016[/editline]
You can literally google Trump [B]promoting fucking violence[/B] by typing in Trump Punch
that's how fucking obvious this guys violent desires are, and yet we still have people clamoring to defend him like the fucking messiah[/QUOTE]
Protester is being disruptive and violent
"Man I'd love to punch him in the face"
Wow, what a absolute monster /s
He is a presidential candidate. He should not be advocating violence no matter how minimal it seems.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50830019][url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/feb/23/donald-trump-says-hed-like-to-punch-protester-at-nevada-rally-video[/url]
[editline]4th August 2016[/editline]
You can literally google Trump [B]promoting fucking violence[/B] by typing in Trump Punch
that's how fucking obvious this guys violent desires are, and yet we still have people clamoring to defend him like the fucking messiah[/QUOTE]
promoting violence? no, that's stretching it quite a bit. he simply said he wishes things were like the old days, where that guy would have had the shit kicked out of him for being a douche at the rally and throwing punches first, and that he himself would do it too, if he could.
he isn't inciting violence in his followers, he's just speaking his personal thoughts (this is trump's gift and curse). apples and oranges. now, had he done something like had the dude brought up on stage and then take a shot at him, it would be promoting violence.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50830051]Protester is being disruptive and violent
"Man I'd love to punch him in the face"
Wow, what a absolute monster /s[/QUOTE]
Yeah you look at that sarcastically but I don't think you even understand what that means
So a presidential candidate says violence is okay in response to a situation that doesn't deserve violence at all by any reasonable stretch of the imagination(You know punching a guy in the face is assault right, a fucking crime, right? DO you give a shit about that?), what message does that send to the people of the country, that [B]the[/B] role model of the nation advocates violence at the drop of the hat?
You know what it tells the nation?
[B]that assault over petty differences is okay, acceptable, and to be applauded.[/B]
This is the america you want, whether you realize that or not, wanting Trump is wanting a more violent america.
Cool. we'll start building a wall to keep you out.
[QUOTE=Pascall;50830064]He is a presidential candidate. He should not be advocating violence no matter how minimal it seems.[/QUOTE]
this is the best case scenario
[QUOTE=Pops;50830072]promoting violence? no, that's stretching it quite a bit. he simply said he wishes things were like the old days, where that guy would have had the shit kicked out of him for being a douche at the rally and throwing punches first, and that he himself would do it too, if he could.
he isn't inciting violence in his followers, he's just speaking his personal thoughts (this is trump's gift and curse). apples and oranges. now, had he done something like had the dude brought up on stage and then take a shot at him, it would be promoting violence.[/QUOTE]
That's inciting violence.
"I want it to be like the good old days where you could just assault someone, and it wasn't an issue"
Oh yeah, that's acceptable and reasonable and not violent?
No, that's fucking inciting violence.
[QUOTE=Pops;50830072]promoting violence? no, that's stretching it quite a bit. he simply said he wishes things were like the old days, where that guy would have had the shit kicked out of him for being a douche at the rally and throwing punches first, and that he himself would do it too, if he could.
he isn't inciting violence in his followers, he's just speaking his personal thoughts (this is trump's gift and curse). apples and oranges. now, had he done something like had the dude brought up on stage and then take a shot at him, it would be promoting violence.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter how far you reach and twist things, you're justifying a presidential canditate promoting violence.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;50830051]Protester is being disruptive and violent
"Man I'd love to punch him in the face"
Wow, what a absolute monster /s[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004269364/trump-and-violence.html[/url]
he supports violence towards protesters that are against him, whether the protester is violent or not.
Also, would you support cutting off someone's hands because they slapped their parents like the "good old days"? would you call that fair?
[QUOTE=Pops;50830078]this is the best case scenario[/QUOTE]
Keep making excuses for a politician violating reasonable behavior and keep defending them.
i'm not making excuses for anyone, you're just crying over spilled milk.
[QUOTE=Pops;50830097]i'm not making excuses for anyone, you're just crying over spilled milk.[/QUOTE]
You think assault is no big deal
and you say I'm crying over spilled milk
the only child here is you
Wow, people are actually defending the whole violence thing here. Wasn't expecting that
"best case scenario" like I shouldn't hold a grown ass man who is [I]running for president[/I] to a rule that I give to kindergartners that wanting someone to be punched is not okay
[QUOTE] had the shit kicked out of him for being a douche at the rally and throwing punches first, and that he himself would do it too, if he could.[/QUOTE]
[B]You consider none of this violent.[/B]
Why should I even consider what you say when you're that detached from reality?
[QUOTE=Pops;50830072]promoting violence? no, that's stretching it quite a bit. he simply said he wishes things were like the old days, where that guy would have had the shit kicked out of him for being a douche at the rally and throwing punches first, and that he himself would do it too, if he could.
he isn't inciting violence in his followers, he's just speaking his personal thoughts (this is trump's gift and curse). apples and oranges. now, had he done something like had the dude brought up on stage and then take a shot at him, it would be promoting violence.[/QUOTE]
On Donald Trump:
-Trump openly calls for the U.S to commit war crimes and advocates for the murder of innocent women and children.
-Trump on torture: “Even if it doesn’t work they probably deserved it anyway.”
-Trump renews calls for torture citing public executions and mass rape committed by ISIS promising for the U.S to do the same, “fighting fire with fire.”
-Trump says Geneva Conventions a problem and needs to be changed since, US soldiers are to afraid to do their job due to laws which outline the definition of war crimes.
-Trump threatens to shoot down Russian planes starting war with Russia.
-Trump says he would declare a World War as President.
-Trump's solution for high gas prices is to violate The Geneva Convention by invading several of America's allies in the Middle East and Africa unprovoked to forcibly seize the oil fields for himself.
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4teoxl/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/[/url]
but no donald trump doesn't call for or support any violence at all even though his entire fucking platform is built on calling for violence
You're either trolling, or an idiot. And I'd like to think that you're not an idiot, so I'm going to assume that you're straight up lying to our faces to be funny because it gets you a giggle to be contrarian. Please stop.
am i detached from reality? perhaps, but this isn't about me. yet, y'all have no problem supporting a candidate, who was proven to have committed perjury, despite having no legal action taken against her, which btw is an actual crime and she should not only not be allowed to run, but should be in a cell serving a sentence, but oh no, this guy said he wants to hit someone so he's the worst ever!
that's your thought stance right now.
literally, this is you.
[img]http://www.askingsmarterquestions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Ostrich-man-head-in-sand.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Pops;50830131]am i detached from reality? perhaps, but this isn't about me. yet, y'all have no problem supporting a candidate, who was proven to have committed perjury, despite having no legal action taken against her, which btw is an actual crime and she should not only not be allowed to run, but should be in a cell serving a sentence, but oh no, this guy said he wants to hit someone so he's the worst ever!
that's your thought stance right now.
literally, this is you.
[img]http://www.askingsmarterquestions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Ostrich-man-head-in-sand.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
did anyone even say they support hillary? i dont think anyone here has said anything about hillary other than "she is not as bad as trump"
and there's the "but hillary" argument
Damn............ you got me...
Hillary had me fooled the whole time.
[QUOTE=Pops;50830131]am i detached from reality? perhaps, but this isn't about me. yet, y'all have no problem supporting a candidate, who was proven to have committed perjury, despite having no legal action taken against her, which btw is an actual crime and she should not only not be allowed to run, but should be in a cell serving a sentence, but oh no, this guy said he wants to hit someone so he's the worst ever!
that's your thought stance right now.
literally, this is you.
[img]http://www.askingsmarterquestions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Ostrich-man-head-in-sand.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
I have huge problems voting for Hillary. If it was literally anybody other than Trump, even if it was Ted Cruz, I'd seriously be considering voting republican or third-party this time around. But Trump is a ridiculously dangerous buffoon and an immediate danger and I cannot in good conscious not do everything I can to prevent a Trump presidency. That unfortunately means voting Hillary.
In other words, I'm voting Hillary this year and I'm going to hate every fucking moment of it.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;50830117]You're either trolling, or an idiot. And I'd like to think that you're not an idiot, so I'm going to assume that you're straight up lying to our faces to be funny because it gets you a giggle to be contrarian. Please stop.[/QUOTE]
okay, you got me, i'll stop now. truth is, both candidates are shit and i'd really rather not vote.
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[QUOTE=Pops;50830131]am i detached from reality? perhaps, but this isn't about me. yet, y'all have no problem supporting a candidate, who was proven to have committed perjury, despite having no legal action taken against her, which btw is an actual crime and she should not only not be allowed to run, but should be in a cell serving a sentence, but oh no, this guy said he wants to hit someone so he's the worst ever!
that's your thought stance right now.
literally, this is you.
[img]http://www.askingsmarterquestions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Ostrich-man-head-in-sand.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
Do you know how sad it is when your opponent actually argues like the stereotype they play is?
It's fucking sad.
I don't like Hilary but rather than deal with the fact that Trump LITERALLY encourages violence, you duck dodge dive dip and dodge in a sad effort to not confront reality.
Yes Clinton is bad. Trump is magnitudes worse but you can only go "BUT BUT HILARY IS A LYING WOMAN"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I can't believe he trolled us.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;50830105]Wow, people are actually defending the whole violence thing here. Wasn't expecting that[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to get the slight impression that trumpeters are ignoring reality
just a little bit
[QUOTE=Mining Bill;50830209]I'm starting to get the slight impression that trumpeters are ignoring reality
just a little bit[/QUOTE]
What, only now? :v:
To be fair though this does seem very cherry-picked.
I mean, the exact same happened during Sander's campaign
[video=youtube;RqAm2BG_Ouk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqAm2BG_Ouk[/video]
But at least they couldn't find mean spirited people
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;50830105]Wow, people are actually defending the whole violence thing here. Wasn't expecting that[/QUOTE]
This is just what Trumpets do. Even with the most indefensible position of Donald Trump, they attempt to manipulate what he said so they can continue to delude themselves that Trump is actually a good candidate, and even when they are consistently disproved they continue to either manipulate what Trump says or try to distract from what's going on by calling out Hillary. In the end though, they usually just get fed up with others showing him how Trump's wrong and just leave, still deluded by themselves. Nesto is a perfect example of this in this thread.
but at least he isnt hillary
[QUOTE=dimitrik129;50830699]but at least he isnt hillary[/QUOTE]
At least Hillary isn't Trump.
I'd prefer having a corrupt person in office over having an indefensible, senseless idiot in office.
[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50830709]At least Hillary isn't Trump.[/QUOTE]
*sarcasm*
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