I'd agree with the OP wholeheartedly but damn, you need to calm down dude. I know you're raging, but take it easy. There are plenty of morons with which we share this world. Get accustomed to it.
As for hunting. I've never tried it, not particularly interested. But I wouldn't be against it either.
It's the nature of all humans and indeed every living thing that ever walked the earth to kill and consume other living things. While I can see where the "at least eat what you kill" argument comes from I don't think the government should try to separate people from a harmless way of getting closer to their instincts. That's not their job. If you enjoy getting closer to nature in that manner, good for you.
Besides which hunters do more to preserve the animals they hunt than wipe them out. This isn't the Wild West.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16150416]Clearly this dude's never been a Black man in South Central LA.
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Or a Mexican in Texas.[/QUOTE]
No, but I've been a Jew in Arizona.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150388]Lol, I'd like to see someone make a gun capable of killing several people. Let alone ammo.
[B]NOTE: I forgot to mention that I did NOT mean that police officers with guns is NOT bad. I would NOT get rid of those.[/B][/QUOTE]
You're going in circles here. If guns are banned, why would cops need them? Wouldn't they get an unfair advantage over the criminals with sticks and stones?
I've always wondered if Lankist was a jew.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150423]The non-crooked police. Have people with guns ever [I]stopped[/I] oppressive cops?[/quote]
Yes.
What happens when the police start determining their own laws without the consent of the People?
[quote]The government isn't going Strange Days-esque L.A. on us any time soon.[/QUOTE]
It has, however, only been a number of decades since members of our police force spend nights wearing white hoods.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16150399]Also FYI guns have been hand-made much longer than they have been manufactured.[/QUOTE]
I'm no gunsmith but wouldn't it be very hard to make automatic weapons by hand?
[QUOTE=DualReaver;16150435]I've always wondered if Lankist was a jew.[/QUOTE]
I'm not.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16150444]I'm not.[/QUOTE]
You seem Jewish.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150441]I'm no gunsmith but wouldn't it be very hard to make automatic weapons by hand?[/QUOTE]
Not with schematics and the ability to forge molds, no.
Molds are basic shit if you have the right work area, and there are TONS of places you can forge molds in.
Fuck, how do you think prototypes are made?
They aren't manufactured.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150441]I'm no gunsmith but wouldn't it be very hard to make automatic weapons by hand?[/QUOTE]
have you seen the things they do in jail?
They can make automatic weapons with some duct tape, piping and some springs.
Pro-gun democrats.
We are the silent minority.
Lankist stop being in all the threads I post in btw.
[QUOTE=CrazyV2;16150427]You're going in circles here. If guns are banned, why would cops need them? Wouldn't they get an unfair advantage over the criminals with sticks and stones?[/QUOTE]
Ask any police officer and he'll tell you that the main use for guns is to get the bad guy to give up. It's more effective than a taser. [I]Much[/I] more effective than a baton, no?
[QUOTE=Lankist;16150440]Yes.
What happens when the police start determining their own laws without the consent of the People?
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When have this ever happened, and if it's such a great threath, why doesn't it happen in Europe all the time?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150457]Ask any police officer and he'll tell you that the main use for guns is to get the bad guy to give up. It's more effective than a taser. [I]Much[/I] more effective than a baton, no?[/QUOTE]
It's also a pretty easy way to kill someone you don't like.
[QUOTE=CrazyV2;16150453]have you seen the things they do in jail?
They can make automatic weapons with some duct tape, piping and some springs.[/QUOTE]
And those are totally as effective as manufactured guns.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150476]And those are totally as effective as manufactured guns.[/QUOTE]
They get the job done, which is the whole point.
[QUOTE=sp00k!;16150459]When have this ever happened, and if it's such a great threath, why doesn't it happen in Europe all the time?[/QUOTE]
Because there are people with guns in Europe who would probably do some serious vigilante shit if the cops started making up laws on the spot.
Those Irish have always been a resourceful bunch, ask them what they did.
Elecbullet is talking absolutism. NOBODY but cops have guns, not even criminals. That is a SERIOUS imbalance of power.
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[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150476]And those are totally as effective as manufactured guns.[/QUOTE]
Yes. They are.
What the fuck do you think the photocopied manufactured guns are based on?
They have to get it working perfect in the prototype stage before they can manufacture it, and quality typically takes a hit when you start dealing with mass production.
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Wars have been waged for centuries with hand-made firearms. There is no question about it, there is no sensible way to destroy weaponry.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150441]I'm no gunsmith but wouldn't it be very hard to make automatic weapons by hand?[/QUOTE]
Nope.
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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten_submachine_gun[/url]
The only two machined parts are the barrel and bolt, everything else could be made with scrap metal and a dremel tool in your garage.
The only reason we didn't have automatics two hundred years ago is because we didn't have the technological means to mold and create their intricate parts. Now we do, and there's no stopping that without banning industry as a whole.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16150494]They have to get it working perfect in the prototype stage before they can manufacture it, and quality typically takes a hit when you start dealing with mass production.[/QUOTE]
A manufactured gun is going to be better than one made in a prison from duct tape and shit. Even gunsmiths have [I]materials.[/I]
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150476]And those are totally as effective as manufactured guns.[/QUOTE]
Go learn some facts about guns, then argue that they should be banned.
We should ban bullets because bullets are the part of the gun that kill people.
[QUOTE=Levithan II;16150520]We should ban bullets because bullets are the part of the gun that kill people.[/QUOTE]
Bullets are not impossible to make.
And besides, it's not the bullet that kills the person, it's the one who shoots.
[QUOTE=Lankist;16150494]Because there are people with guns in Europe who would probably do some serious vigilante shit if the cops started making up laws on the spot.
Those Irish have always been a resourceful bunch, ask them what they did.
Elecbullet is talking absolutism. NOBODY but cops have guns, not even criminals. That is a SERIOUS imbalance of power.
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Let's look at Denmark then. There are pretty much no guns here, I've never seen one, and each time someone shoots a gun at someone, not even hitting, it's in the news. We seriously have no guns, and yet we seem to be doing alright.
[QUOTE=Levithan II;16150520]We should ban bullets because bullets are the part of the gun that kill people.[/QUOTE]
They are also the parts that allow good people to protect themselves from bad people.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16150516]A manufactured gun is going to be better than one made in a prison from duct tape and shit. Even gunsmiths have [I]materials.[/I][/QUOTE]
Who the fuck mentioned prison duct tape?
I'm talking political dissidents in a dark corner of a manufacturing plant owned by like-minded individuals.
1. America has the largest firearm death percentage of any country in the world. Australia has an incredibly small percentage of gun deaths per year, and has very strict gun laws. If guns made the country safer, then why is this the case?
2. Your average gun killing is not done by criminal masterminds. Most of it is from people who have easy access to a gun, and would not otherwise go to great measures to seek out a firearm. Putting strict regulations on guns would stop ease of access and greatly reduce the amount of deaths with them.
3. "If people didn't have guns, they would kill people with other things!" Sure, but guns are much more efficient killers than other weapons as they have range, something that weapons do not, making it harder to kill people with it and increasing the chances of survival in an attack.
The gun-toting mentality is something the US really needs to shake off. But I'm not going to convince you otherwise, because you are so blindingly convinced you need a gun.
I'm not afraid of criminals having guns. Criminals will always have guns.
I'm afraid that the average man will not have guns, and won't be able to defend themselves when the government becomes totalitarian.
[QUOTE=sp00k!;16150538]Let's look at Denmark then. There are pretty much no guns here, I've never seen one, and each time someone shoots a gun at someone, not even hitting, it's in the news. We seriously have no guns, and yet we seem to be doing alright.[/QUOTE]
There is no such thing as no guns. No guns means no crime, and there is no such thing as no crime.
[QUOTE=Levithan II;16150520]We should ban bullets because bullets are the part of the gun that kill people.[/QUOTE]
If someone was going to ban guns why would they have any qualms about banning bullets...
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