Out of control pit bulls as they attack multiple people in the middle of the street while their owne - General

[QUOTE=J!NX;48675974]it's pretty obvious you don't like blacks :v: I don't think "my post was just a joke" is going to work on anyone it's ok that you think blacks are a lower lifeform though, we won't judge you.[/QUOTE] I feel like you're being dumb on purpose

[QUOTE=MisterSjeiks;48674478]I've been chased by dogs so much in my life... always managed to escape. Nowadays my physique isn't as good as it used to be and this is one of my biggest fears. [editline]13th September 2015[/editline] Also, did anyone post [url=http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/pit-bulls-attack-man-bronx-graphic-video-shows-article-1.2358056]this news article[/url] yet? It's about this attack. The dude pulling on the leash wasn't the owner, he was a bystander trying to help. But this is where it gets messed up: [t]http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2358461.1442109539!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/article-pitbull-11-0912.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Well then. I think I can 'kind of' retract my comment on the owner being irresponsible to the dogs, despite the [I]37[/I] arrests. I think at that point she should just walk them around the home perimeter or something.

[QUOTE=J!NX;48675974]it's pretty obvious you don't like blacks :v: I don't think "my post was just a joke" is going to work on anyone it's ok that you think blacks are a lower lifeform though, we won't judge you.[/QUOTE]"my post about how human beings are sort of specially bred animals where i immediately mention black people afterwards proves i'm not racist"

[QUOTE=Combineguy;48675994]"my post about how human beings are sort of specially bred animals where i immediately mention black people afterwards proves i'm not racist"[/QUOTE] that was explicitly worded as humans are animals, and implicitly worded as black people are humans. you're being dumb on purpose too

[QUOTE=J!NX;48675974]it's pretty obvious you don't like blacks :v: I don't think "my post was just a joke" is going to work on anyone it's ok that you think blacks are a lower lifeform though, we won't judge you.[/QUOTE] That post was mimicking the structure of the post he was responding to with some nouns changed. I'm pretty sure that post was just supposed to be a parody of the one he quoted to make his point about inconsistent beliefs.

[QUOTE=Skerion;48676044]That post was mimicking the sentence structure of the post he was responding to with some nouns changed. I'm pretty sure that post was supposed to be just a parody of the one he quoted to make his point.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TheTalon;48666349]Saying not all pit bulls are bad and using that as justification that they should be allowed to be kept as pets even though they account for like 70% of all dog attacks and fatalities is kind of like saying It's okay to drink and drive because there's plenty of people who do it that don't kill anyone. If it WAS the owners and not the dog, then the stats would show an even spread for attacks by breed, no? Not a fucking 500% increase in attacks between #2 to #1 it IS a violent breed. Some pit bulls are docile as fuck, but the breed isn't. I never turn my back to pit bulls and I never will[/QUOTE] The parody of the post makes no sense to make there's a huge difference between humans and dog breeds, anyone should be able to figure this out, dog breeds vary massively from one another. There's no context here that actually makes sense to parody it with humans. doing it with blacks too just makes it sound way off. What point is he actually making.

He tried making a point that dogs shouldn't be discriminated against based on their breed just like human beings shouldn't be discriminated against based on their race but it came as completely fucking stupid because he used black people as a basis and tried making a point that dogs and human beings are somehow of the same worth to begin with. Then he started rambling about selective breeding among human beings and all that nonsense.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48665875]right next to us, but neither of us were "built" in the sense that humans bred dogs to do specific tasks a poodle will not have the same strength to tear off someones arm as a pitbull would, for example[/QUOTE] Poodle owner guy here. Get a Royal Standard, and that thing can bite through your arm. They don't, of course, because they're genetically docile. But they can. Especially if they're trained poorly.

[QUOTE=woolio1;48676195]Poodle owner guy here. Get a Royal Standard, and that thing can bite through your arm. They don't, of course, because they're genetically docile. But they can. Especially if they're trained poorly.[/QUOTE] He probably meant miniature poodles as that's what most people think of when poodles are mentioned.

I think the only legislation that should be enacted is that it's illegal to breed pitbulls with other pitbulls - you can only breed them with mongrels. That way you solve basically all of their genetic health issues since breeders won't be allowed to keep them inbred.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48676281]I think the only legislation that should be enacted is that it's illegal to breed pitbulls with other pitbulls - you can only breed them with mongrels. That way you solve basically all of their genetic health issues since breeders won't be allowed to keep them inbred.[/QUOTE] That'd be a great step towards removing pure breeds as a whole since pure breeds are fucking horrible creations of mankind but that'll likely never happen due to the intensive lobbying.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;48676311]That'd be a great step towards removing pure breeds as a whole since pure breeds are fucking horrible creations of mankind but that'll likely never happen due to the intensive lobbying.[/QUOTE] It's easier to do than a full-on ban I imagine, not to mention with greater support. No cruelty or harm is dealt to the animals either.

has anything good ever come from pure bred dogs outside of mixing their breed?

[QUOTE=J!NX;48676426]has anything good ever come from pure bred dogs outside of mixing their breed?[/QUOTE] Golden Retrievers are pretty great.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48676548]Golden Retrievers are pretty great.[/QUOTE] And purebred golden retrievers have a lot of health problems, notably they're very susceptible to cancer. They're a lot less susceptible to these diseases when they're crossbred rather than purebred.

[QUOTE=ZenZill;48672906]Pit bulls to me are like assault rifles being sold to the public. SOmething extremely deadly that only experienced people should have. Start with a chihuahua first, like you would a .22, then step up when youre experienced.[/QUOTE] While I understand your sentiment and I do actually agree with you in this case, no one should take in a dog without knowing what that particular breed entails, chihauhuas are terrible first time dogs. They're nasty little buggers, a first timer would be better off choosing something like a retriever. With dogs size does not always directly correlate to difficulty of ownership.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48676548]Golden Retrievers are pretty great.[/QUOTE] My two goldens are pure afaik and one had major health issues when she was alive, doesn't help we got them from a company who was busted for selling sick dogs. The other amazingly enough doesn't seem to have any issues other then the typical arthritis in the back legs. They are great dogs though. On another note, like mentioned above I can get down with a special license to own 'aggressive' breeds if it helps stop irresponsible individuals from giving these dogs a bad rep.

[QUOTE=butre;48675754]human beings sort of are specially bred animals [editline]13th September 2015[/editline] blacks in particular had a lot of selective breeding done by slave owners[/QUOTE] No wonder they have big dicks.

I'm sure there must be some type of small-town independent pure-breeder that does a good job, right? No inbred nonsense as people have pointed out?

[QUOTE=Snapster;48670207]If you come across something like this here is a video of how to stop the attack. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ebR37K8hDg[/media][/QUOTE] This is exactly how my dad (a dog handler(as in retired USAF, retired US Customs(drug dogs) and now travels the world training dogs for [I]countries[/I] with a contractor) told me. If you pull at them you risk tearing flesh off the victim. You have to lift and make them release. Also no bad dogs only bad owners, etc. Some breeds are more aggressive than others, but their upbringing and training will have a drastic effect on their life. Once a dog has been abused and mistreated and taught how to fight it's going to retain that for a very long time. It's psychologically scarred. My cousin has had many pitbulls and none of them were aggressive or hurt anything. Dogs respond to how their trained and treated. Pitbulls kill people because people buy them for attack/defense dogs and then they get sold and retain the aggressive nature which they were taught. They should not be illegal. People should stop being cruel and abusing dogs. Dangerous pitbulls don't walk around going [I]"Hmmm, who should I maul today?"[/I] They go around scared and in fear of everything as if its a threat. Also your fear and body language will make them defensive. Be the boss. Don't let them walk you. [I]Any breed is capable of killing if you train it to kill from a pup. Any breed is capable of compassion if you treat it with compassion from when it's a pup.[/I]

Had an pitbull attack a mailman next door to me got mauled by a pitbull, kinda been a bit scared of dogs ever since.

I hope the mutts gets put down. Too dangerous to be left alive

What a shame. Pit bulls can be some of the most loving and loyal dogs. I've never met a more friendly dog than my sister's retarded pit, she just wants love and not to be put in a kennel.

[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;48681333]my sister's retarded pit[/QUOTE] ... What? That's exists?!

[QUOTE=Incoming.;48682582]... What? That's exists?![/QUOTE] I don't know if they're anything "wrong" with her, her face just looks [i]off[/i] and her expressions are hilarious. She looks... err, is it offensive to say she looks like a potato?

[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;48682754]I don't know if they're anything "wrong" with her, her face just looks [i]off[/i] and her expressions are hilarious. She looks... err, is it offensive to say she looks like a potato?[/QUOTE] There are neither any dogs or potatoes in here to my knowledge so I think it's fine to say that a dog looks like a potato.

I'm a potato-kin I've been offended

Pits really are great dogs in the right hands. I've known of two people that owned them here, and one had them before this ban that was placed close to 10 years ago. He took their training and care above everything else, and in exchange, he had 3 of the most well-behaved and loving dogs that I've ever seen. The other had them after the ban and moved here without knowing about it. He also took good care of his two dogs, and aside from an incident involving a cat chase that resulted in an accidental minor bite on someone I know (it was a shelter dog, other was a puppy that he bought), his dogs loved everyone. His other dog was a buff, but lazy little bastard that liked to steal people's spots on the couch whenever they got up. They were taken away by the cops after someone reported them and they were sent to a shelter in another state, so he will never see them again. That right there is why breed specific legislation, which many users in this thread are calling for, is a fucked up workaround to this issue. The only solution that I see working without being completely oppressive, is to require special licensing and training for owners. Don't make it hard to get, after all you need a license to hunt in many states, which requires a 2 day class, so why not a dog training course that certifies you for handling large, unwieldy dogs. Dogs are already licensed in most places, so adding a special variant for potentially dangerous dogs is no problem.

[QUOTE=zombini;48683446]That right there is why breed specific legislation, which many users in this thread are calling for, is a fucked up workaround to this issue. The only solution that I see working without being completely oppressive, is to require special licensing and training for owners. Don't make it hard to get, after all you need a license to hunt in many states, which requires a 2 day class, so why not a dog training course that certifies you for handling large, unwieldy dogs. Dogs are already licensed in most places, so adding a special variant for potentially dangerous dogs is no problem.[/QUOTE] I'm calling for the rather benign legislation of banning the breeding of pitbulls with other pitbulls (allowing only pairing with mongrels), which I think would be a good workaround to the issue and leave both parties happy.

Jesus like... I know it sucks to say because I'm an animal lover but someone should have seriously broken both dogs's necks. That guy was seriously injured and they could have downright killed him. Everyone was so careful not to harm the dogs and I don't get why.