Out of control pit bulls as they attack multiple people in the middle of the street while their owne - General

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48665818]am i a bad person if i am perfectly ok with the dogs being put down i cant see them being trained to be better after this really[/QUOTE] No you are not. Some dogs cannot be helped.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665805]I've broken up dog fights before, you want to grab them by the collar, separate them, and hold them down[/QUOTE] Pitbulls that are stronger than you? With their infamously strong jaws gripping onto some flesh and bone ?

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;48665799]Well, even if they are raised as normal dogs, they still got the instinct in their genes. There is always a possibility that it can override the niceness it was raised with, because it is in its genes. I remember very clearly how a friend's friend's father had a pitbul, raised it lovingly like many dogs he raised before but he was aware of the breed. It was loyal and friendly like you say. One day, instinct kicked in, and it lunged after trying to bite his 4 year old daughter, luckily he managed to stop it in time, but after that he got rid of it. Instincts can override the way a dog like this was raised, because it is bred for this purpose.[/QUOTE] unfortunately people either get pitbulls to play up the stereotype or try to subvert it, and a lot of times it ends poorly

[QUOTE=Makol;48665690]I have a pit bull mix who was deemed to be "untrainable" and was set to be put down before I contacted the rescue about him. Didn't take long to get him under control and now he's nothing more than a fat/lazy and fairly social dog.[/QUOTE] [url]http://globalnews.ca/news/2211112/rescue-gone-wrong-family-saves-pit-bull-from-euthanization-dog-attacks-daughter-and-is-put-down-same-day/[/url] First article on google when searching for Pitbull attacks. They shouldn't be allowed to be owned or bred, sure they can be friendly but the amount of attacks proves time and time again that its not worth the risk.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48665818]am i a bad person if i am perfectly ok with the dogs being put down i cant see them being trained to be better after this really [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] you just gotta sing them a lullaby while they're munching through your bone you dummy[/QUOTE] i hope they get put down its too late for these dogs to be taught to not be killers both because the way they're raised and because they did enough damage to warrant them dangerous to society. edit- nvm belmont is bronx

[QUOTE=Lium;48665772]I remember a story about a woman who was part of a group to dispel the belief that pitbulls are savage killers. Her pitbull killed her.[/QUOTE] That's a great story. In fact, it's such a great story that I'm going to go ahead and euthanize my friendly pit bull and erase my many many memories of our great times had together throughout the years, and then erase my memories of friends' and families' playful pit bulls, because one woman was ironically killed by her pit bull!

My brother has a pitbull and she is a fantastic dog.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48665848]its funny when people seriously try to say that pit bulls aren't genetically predisposed to be killer dogs like fuck they were bred to be the killingest dogs to ever kill, why the fuck would anyone want one as a pet[/QUOTE] You do realize that dogs as a species were specifically built to be the second most resilient and adaptive predators on earth right?

[QUOTE=srobins;48665860]That's a great story. In fact, it's such a great story that I'm going to go ahead and euthanize my friendly pit bull and erase my many many memories of our great times had together throughout the years, and then erase my memories of friends' and families' playful pit bulls, because one woman was ironically killed by her pit bull![/QUOTE] What's the bet that that beast was raised as a "normal dog"? I expect they treated it with a great deal of love and care. And it still murdered its pregnant owner for no reason. Pitbulls were bred to kill, that was their primary function. You can sugarcoat it all you like, but these animals are not meant to be pets.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48665848]its funny when people seriously try to say that pit bulls aren't genetically predisposed to be killer dogs like fuck they were bred to be the killingest dogs to ever kill, why the fuck would anyone want one as a pet[/QUOTE] lol because not everybody is gullible enough to be convinced by spooky local news stories about pit bull attacks that they are automatic man-eating beasts who walk the streets looking for a smooth-skinned child to tear apart. Do you notice how in virtually every single pit bull attack story, the owner was some ghetto goon who always owns like 2-3 of them and keeps them chained in his front yard because it makes him look hard? It's never a pit bull that was the single dog of a nice middle class family that was properly fed and treated like a pet rather than an accessory or even worse, home defense solution (as many of them are in these stories). Yet somehow when dogs which are trained by their owners to be aggressive either for looks or home defense purposes end up doing what they were trained to do and start attacking people or pets (what a shocker!), everybody is supposed to just nod their heads and say "what a shame.. these dogs truly are a danger to our society"? Give me a break lol [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Lium;48665882]What's the bet that that beast was raised as a "normal dog"? I expect they treated it with a great deal of love and care. And it still murdered its pregnant owner for no reason. Pitbulls were bred to kill, that was their primary function. You can sugarcoat it all you like, but these animals are not meant to be pets.[/QUOTE] I'm not familiar with the specific story but I would actually "bet" the dog that attacked her was one she adopted out of a fighting home or something along those lines.. Which would make sense considering she was apparently working in the field of rescuing pit bulls from abusive homes according to you.

[QUOTE=Lium;48665882]What's the bet that that beast was raised as a "normal dog"? I expect they treated it with a great deal of love and care. And it still murdered its pregnant owner for no reason. Pitbulls were bred to kill, that was their primary function. You can sugarcoat it all you like, but these animals are not meant to be pets.[/QUOTE] Again: all dogs were bred to kill. The subspecies evolved from early humans training wolves to serve as hunting partners because they had similar hunting capacity to humans themselves and different breeds formed from specialized breeding for specific types of game. A pit bull is bigger than a dachshund because a pit bull is bred to hunt bears and a dachshund is bred to hunt badgers (also yes Richy even poodles were bred for hunting, ducks to be specific), the only dog breed I'm aware of actually bred for dog fighting specifically is the Japanese Tosa which are virtually unheard of around here.

[QUOTE=srobins;48665883]lol because not everybody is gullible enough to be convinced by spooky local news stories about pit bull attacks that they are automatic man-eating beasts who walk the streets looking for a smooth-skinned child to tear apart. Do you notice how in virtually every single pit bull attack story, the owner was some ghetto goon who always owns like 2-3 of them and keeps them chained in his front yard because it makes him look hard? It's never a pit bull that was the single dog of a nice middle class family that was properly fed and treated like a pet rather than an accessory or even worse, home defense solution (as many of them are in these stories). Yet somehow when dogs which are trained by their owners to be aggressive either for looks or home defense purposes end up doing what they were trained to do and start attacking people or pets (what a shocker!), everybody is supposed to just nod their heads and say "what a shame.. these dogs truly are a danger to our society"? Give me a break lol [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] I'm not familiar with the specific story but I would actually "bet" the dog that attacked her was one she adopted out of a fighting home or something along those lines.. Which would make sense considering she was apparently working in the field of rescuing pit bulls from abusive homes according to you.[/QUOTE] [url]http://blog.dogsbite.org/2011/08/2011-fatality-pregnant-pacifica-woman.html[/url] She cared for it since it was a puppy.

should people really be allowed to just walk around with an animal that can just straight up fucking tear people apart Like, is it reasonable that I should have to go out of my way to avoid pissing off an animal that's allowed to walk freely on the street lest I be mauled to death

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665805]I've broken up dog fights before, you want to grab them by the collar, separate them, and hold them down, if you speak avoid shouting and keep your tone calm and consistent. Now if you're the one they're attacking then it is, without variation, because of something you did (it's perfectly possible you don't know what you did but it will always be because of what you did). The most common issue with dog attacks is that people who aren't familiar with dogs being defensive around them. Dogs are aggressively friendly towards humans unless they perceive you as a threat, the issue is that this behavior can often lead to those dogs being perceived as threats by humans. Probably the most important things to avoid doing are retreating from an approaching dog or attempting to push it away.[/QUOTE] Hey dude I know it's cool and all to post advice regarding dog attacks but I'd rather much you not.

Man that dude lost a lot of blood.

[QUOTE=Lium;48665931][url]http://blog.dogsbite.org/2011/08/2011-fatality-pregnant-pacifica-woman.html[/url] She cared for it since it was a puppy.[/QUOTE] Sorry but where does it say it was raised from a puppy?

That was fucking brutal

I guess it doesn't even matter because I'm not really going to be convinced even if it was, honestly. As tragic as it is, for every story of a pit bull attack there are a thousand more of happy pit bull owners going cradle to grave with their dogs without incident, myself included. Pit bulls also are not the only dogs that have attacked other dogs or humans. Edit: Merge

[QUOTE=srobins;48665957]I guess it doesn't even matter because I'm not really going to be convinced even if it was, honestly. As tragic as it is, for every story of a pit bull attack there are a thousand more of happy pit bull owners going cradle to grave with their dogs without incident, myself included. Pit bulls also are not the only dogs that have attacked other dogs or humans. Edit: Merge[/QUOTE] I just don't understand why you would ever specifically want a pit bull like there are plenty of dogs out there in need of owners, plenty of which will not murder someone if they aren't properly trained would it really be such a bad thing if pit bulls just went away and were instead replaced with a breed that isn't as easily capable of overpowering and murdering an adult human

[QUOTE=Laferio;48665937]Hey dude I know it's cool and all to post advice regarding dog attacks but I'd rather much you not.[/QUOTE] If you're going to deliberately avoid knowing what you can do to prevent and/or defuse these situations then it's entirely your own fault if you end up on the receiving end of them.

Asteroid, please don't post information regarding life threatening situations in regards to pitt-bull attacks. Based on your previous posts I'm going to assume you have little idea what you're talking about, and are/is basing "advice" off of previous situations that are anecdotal. Whenever posting about life threatening situations, I usually leave it up to the poster to seek professional advice, NOT advice from some random dude on the internet. I'm not posting this for brownie points, I'm posting this because I'd rather much people seek [quote]professional advice[/quote]

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665998]If you're going to deliberately avoid knowing what you can do to prevent and/or defuse these situations then it's entirely your own fault if you end up on the receiving end of them.[/QUOTE] to be honest if your dog starts ripping my arm to shreds I'm probably going to try and stab it in the face an animal that will kill should be put down Like, this isn't even up for discussion. If all it takes for an animal to snap and kill someone is a "misunderstanding", it shouldn't be around people period. What are you going to do if a kid pisses it off? Blame the kid?

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;48665974] would it really be such a bad thing if pit bulls just went away and were instead replaced with a breed that isn't as easily capable of overpowering and murdering an adult human[/QUOTE] If this was to be done to pit bulls then we might as well get rid of all breeds capable of doing this.

[QUOTE=Makol;48666012]If this was to be done to pit bulls then we might as well get rid of all breeds capable of doing this.[/QUOTE] If all those breeds killed as many people as pit bulls then maybe I'd agree

:scream: Oh god, I thought the title was ironic. Guess I was wrong, shouldn't have watched that.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;48666015]If all those breeds killed as many people as pit bulls then maybe I'd agree[/QUOTE] Get rid of the pitt bull then rottweilers will become the breed most responsible for deaths/attacks, get rid of rottweilers and then resa canarios will be come responsible for the most deaths/attacks, etc. It'll just be a continuing cycle of getting rid of whatever breed poses as a threat to people.

[QUOTE=Makol;48666042]Get rid of the pitt bull then rottweilers will become the breed most responsible for deaths/attacks, get rid of rottweilers and then resa canarios will be come responsible for the most deaths, etc.[/QUOTE] what I'm saying isn't that maybe people shouldn't have pit bulls because they're the most dangerous breed of dog, I'm saying maybe people shouldn't have pit bulls because they're fucking dangerous animals I don't feel as strongly about other dogs because other dogs aren't as dangerous as pit bulls are, not because they fall lower on the dog capable of murdering people leader boards.

[QUOTE=Makol;48666042]Get rid of the pitt bull then rottweilers will become the breed most responsible for deaths/attacks, get rid of rottweilers and then resa canarios will be come responsible for the most deaths/attacks, etc. It'll just be a continuing cycle of getting rid of whatever breed poses as a threat to people.[/QUOTE] Lmao where is your fucking logic. Maybe if all dogs that exist equally killed 2 people a year, getting rid of one is just a drop in the bucket but that's fucking wrong. Pitbulls kill the most people each year and doubtlessly injure more. [img]http://puu.sh/k8v7B/e28b4a2056.png[/img] [url]http://www.dogsbite.org/[/url] I also went back five years and Pitbulls were the leading cause, I don't think I need to go back any further. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Basically: Slippery slope does not exist in this scenario

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;48666068]Lmao where is your fucking logic. Maybe if all dogs that exist equally killed 2 people a year, getting rid of one is just a drop in the bucket but that's fucking wrong. Pitbulls kill the most people each year and doubtlessly injure more. [img]http://puu.sh/k8v7B/e28b4a2056.png[/img] [url]http://www.dogsbite.org/[/url] I also went back five years and Pitbulls were the leading cause, I don't think I need to go back any further.[/QUOTE] see, if a single breed of dog is responsible for the vast, vast majority of deaths, I think it bears some degree of regulation, if nothing else

Reminds me of a similar incident happened recently in US, a cop showed up and shot it when it was still biting the man they had to pry open its mouth to get the guy's arm out after it was killed