Out of control pit bulls as they attack multiple people in the middle of the street while their owne - General

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665901]Again: all dogs were bred to kill. The subspecies evolved from early humans training wolves to serve as hunting partners because they had similar hunting capacity to humans themselves and different breeds formed from specialized breeding for specific types of game. A pit bull is bigger than a dachshund because a pit bull is bred to hunt bears and a dachshund is bred to hunt badgers (also yes Richy even poodles were bred for hunting, ducks to be specific), the only dog breed I'm aware of actually bred for dog fighting specifically is the Japanese Tosa which are virtually unheard of around here.[/QUOTE] What about herding dogs

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;48666068]Lmao where is your fucking logic. Maybe if all dogs that exist equally killed 2 people a year, getting rid of one is just a drop in the bucket but that's fucking wrong. Pitbulls kill the most people each year and doubtlessly injure more. [img]http://puu.sh/k8v7B/e28b4a2056.png[/img] [url]http://www.dogsbite.org/[/url] I also went back five years and Pitbulls were the leading cause, I don't think I need to go back any further. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Basically: Slippery slope does not exist in this scenario[/QUOTE] It could, down the line. I can see how my post seems like its saying "just get rid of all dogs that kill people regardless of the amount of deaths they cause". I was looking at it like this; what dog it currently the main breed thats bred for fighting/killing? Pits, because of dog fighting (which was never the point of the breed, they were meant to pin down wild boar and such). Getting rid of the pit would prompt those people to find a new breed for their "business". It'll take some time, but I can see another breed of dog becoming the new pit bull and being responsible for a majority of dog related deaths. Other dogs out there were bred in the past for the similar things as pits and I can imagine dog fighting breeders just moving on to one of those breeds. But at the same time I don't think the number would reach the level of deaths caused by pits since they were turned into mostly fighting dogs a really really long time ago. But you still don't judge an entire breed for the actions of small amount of them. Not all pits are blood thirsty killing machines. You have to more look at the background of that dog and its owner, and yeah there some out there that will never be "good" dogs and will pose a threat to people. But you don't get rid of all of them because of that one dog. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;48666085]see, if a single breed of dog is responsible for the vast, vast majority of deaths, I think it bears some degree of regulation, if nothing else[/QUOTE] Regulations on the breed could work but then there is this, [url]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/breed-specific-legislation-bad-idea[/url] [QUOTE] And the simple fact is that dogs of any breed can become dangerous when they're intentionally or unintentionally raised to be aggressive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=srobins;48665946]Sorry but where does it say it was raised from a puppy?[/QUOTE] In here: [url]http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_18685702[/url]

Well maybe if the victim had a pitbull of his own this would never have happend

Saying not all pit bulls are bad and using that as justification that they should be allowed to be kept as pets even though they account for like 70% of all dog attacks and fatalities is kind of like saying It's okay to drink and drive because there's plenty of people who do it that don't kill anyone. If it WAS the owners and not the dog, then the stats would show an even spread for attacks by breed, no? Not a fucking 500% increase in attacks between #2 to #1 it IS a violent breed. Some pit bulls are docile as fuck, but the breed isn't. I never turn my back to pit bulls and I never will

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48665578]People keep saying its the owners and it is to some extent but honestly. The breed is just violent. Look at what they did to that arm and how often this breed ends up attacking people.[/QUOTE] Holy shit the whole "OH ITS THE BREED AAAA". Shut up. My dogs have never hurt anyone. Instead, people have hurt them, and that's why we had them, because they came from abusive households. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=!LORD M!;48665594]They should not be allowed. They were bred for this, it's in their genes.[/QUOTE] How about you source that? Is it a study from TheInsideOfMyAss University?

[QUOTE=PelPix123;48666442]if people stopped fucking training dogs for "security" (Which is generally just abuse 99% of the time) shit like this wouldn't happen. Whoever raised these dogs needs to be banned from owning dogs. Ever. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Anyone who buys a pit bull, if not any dog, should be required to fill out a questionnaire as to why they're buying one. You shouldn't just be able to get a dog. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] The thing about pit bulls is that they were bred to attack. They were selectively bred so that their response to any strong emotion is to attack. Pit bulls are not mean dogs. That's the fucked up part, because of how they're bred, [I]they can attack someone [B]because they love them[/B].[/I][/QUOTE] That's why Jodi Arias killed her ex boyfriend, right? Because she loved him?

Hopefully those two dogs were put down.

Holy shit, someone please tell me that guy didn't bleed out completely, that's a shitload of blood right there

If you own an animal capable of doing damage like this, you should have to have some kind of certification and training.

That guy bringing his daughter that close to them is a fucking terrible idea

All the people in this thread using anecdotal evidence over factual, genetic research based analysis are silly. This breed is inherently super aggressive and that isn't an attack on pit bulls or the owners of pit bulls, but they are dangerous if they are not some of the outliers who are more docile purely by chance (not all of them are like this!!)

lol some of you are acting like all pit bulls are guaranteed to attack people i used to have 2 pit bulls and a rottweiler from when they were less than a year old and by the time they all had died not a single one of them attacked a person or another dog you have to look at it case by case, just because most dog attacks are caused by pit bulls doesn't mean they're all bad. most murders in the US are commited by african americans, that does not mean african americans are murderers. i know that's a bad analogy but you probably get my point

There's a certain kind of people who keep pit bulls, and most of them can't raise and control their dogs properly. [editline]...[/editline] I always stay the hell away from them when I'm walking my dog because there's one of them in my neighbourhood that is aggressive as fuck and wouldn't hesitate to rip my dog apart if it got the chance.

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[QUOTE=Recurracy;48666508]Holy shit, someone please tell me that guy didn't bleed out completely, that's a shitload of blood right there[/QUOTE] Pretty sure he didn't, people can lose a ridiculous amount of blood (much more than this guy) and still survive with proper medical care. The poor guy will probably be scarred for the rest of his life though.

a friend of mine has a really friendly pitbull that was attacked by another pitbull, it never even fought back it just took it, poor thing ended up looking like a mangy mutt that was living on the streets for a couple of years i just refuse to believe that every single pitbull is guaranteed to be a vicious beast at some point in their lives like some of you are saying, especially if it doesnt even fight back when attacked :/

[QUOTE=Furnost;48666888]a friend of mine has a really friendly pitbull that was attacked by another pitbull, it never even fought back it just took it, poor thing ended up looking like a mangy mutt that was living on the streets for a couple of years i just refuse to believe that every single pitbull is guaranteed to be a vicious beast at some point in their lives like some of you are saying, especially if it doesnt even fight back when attacked :/[/QUOTE] What people need to understand is that 90% of dogs WERE bred to attack, chase or hunt in some form. These sort of things come very natural to them, and very few dogs are docile by nature. Now of course all pitbulls won't be savage attack dogs, but compared to some breeds this behaviour comes easier to them (note tail wagging in vid "I'm doing the right thing and I'm not afraid!"). And in this manner, they've sometimes been used as guard dogs etc, which has lead to them getting the reputation of a tough dog. Who buys tough dogs? People who think they're tough. Those people usually have no idea how to handle or care for dogs, which ultimately leads to shit like this happening, and it happens a lot, as we've seen from some stats. Basically, 99% of people can't handle pitbulls, as they need a lot of attention to be raised proper, and thats why I personally think they should put heavy restrictions on buying them, as it's clear owners know jack shit.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48666923]Who buys tough dogs? People who think they're tough.[/QUOTE] This, so much this. It's exactly the case with the aggressive pit bull in my neighbourhood. People with a certain attitude keep dogs like these.

I would've shot the dogs. It looks like the middle of a city so that explains why no one did. And I'm not saying that as a "I hate dogs and I'm a tough guy look at me threatening to kill a dog" But like, they could have easily killed that man. They maimed him bad. No one could control them, and the prospect of having to shoot a dog is a hard and honestly a scary one. I'd never want to do that but it needed to be done. After all if the Police show up and they're still acting like that, they're getting shot. But in a scenario where one of those people had a firearm they should've used it when it became apparent no one could handle the dogs. Speaking of pitbulls in general though my girl friend has a neighbor who thinks he's a gangster and he has two of the things. They attacked the electric guy who came to check the meter and hospitalized him.

Is there any information about what triggered the dogs? Unless they were very poorly trained, dogs of any breed don't normally attack unprovoked. Judging by how the owner handled them I'd say he didn't train them well at all, but even then it just doesn't make sense as to why they would attack unprovoked. And before anyone says that it's their breed and it's in their blood. No, attacking without reason is not in any breed of dogs blood. They're built for it, not programmed for it.

you guys are fucking disgusting and it's pathetic to see you try and justify it with 'well they attack people a lot' yes the dogs are bred to be aggressive, and if your dog is THIS aggressive it's a big problem, but any good owner can wrangle one in easy. Every single pitbull I've ever met (over 15!) have been the kindest creatures in the world. It's all about presenting yourself as the dominant creature to them. Yes they have a tendency to snap if you get into their personal space, they're not a dog you just walk around with people like an idiot. In a safe household, their no worse than any other breed. This guy was a moron and got the dogs probably because 'ooh they're tough', and the dogs just totally subverted his control because they didn't respect him in the slightest. Combine that with the fact that he most likely got the dogs from a rescue shelter or a pound, which means these Pitties were probably abused (given the area, that's where you typically find people who are fucking douchebags with their animals like this guy). He took on two dogs that are a large handful to rein in, but he's retarded and clearly isnt cut out for it as we saw. Now do I agree with putting them down? Yeah sure, they attacked a person, that's inexcusable. But dont shit on the entire breed because you watched a documentary about how pitbulls are these vicious bloodthirsty beats all the time, because that's ignorant as all fuck and shows a complete lack of understanding of dog handling

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;48666966] but even then it just doesn't make sense as to why they would attack unprovoked.[/QUOTE] Pitbulls are known for attacking people for no reason. Unprovoked.

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;48666966]They're built for it, not programmed for it.[/QUOTE] You're severely underestimating evolutionary psychology.

My pit bull/shar pei(?) mix is a rescued bait dog. I didn't adopt him because I thought I was a tough person who needed to own a tough dog. I just wanted to give him a nice home. He's still nervous/afraid of people but once he sees someone often enough he'll warm up to them, but he'll keep his distance unless they have a treat for him. He doesn't care for other dogs and will mostly ignore them.

[QUOTE=No Party Hats;48666992] But dont shit on the entire breed because you watched a documentary about how pitbulls are these vicious bloodthirsty beats all the time, because that's ignorant as all fuck and shows a complete lack of understanding of dog handling[/QUOTE] Well fucking no shit the vast vast majority of pitbulls will never attack or harm anyone (heck many are nicer and friendlier than other breeds), we're talking about ratios here. And the numbers show that the majority of dog attacks are done by pitbulls. So what kind of conclusion can we draw from this?

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48667032]Pitbulls are known for attacking people for no reason. Unprovoked.[/QUOTE] Unprovoked according to victims and witnesses. But has anyone asked the Pitbull? In all seriousness though, I'm highly doubtful that they attacked this man for no reason and as much as I'd like to discuss how right or wrong anyone is here I can't find any FACTS online. They're all opinion pieces and I won't discuss opinions. The best I can find is that Pitbulls are on average 40% more likely to be involved in such attacks than the other highest breed which I believe was rottweiler. But nothing mentions psychology or details the attacks.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;48666909]"Unfortunately"? Are you fucking serious? They deserve to be put down after this shit, the only thing unfortunate here is that this situation happened at all.[/QUOTE] He obviously means that it had to come to this in the first place.

the problem with pitbulls is the kind of owners they tend to attract, there's nothing inbred preventing them from being any less docile than any other dog. i own a pitbull and she's one of the nicest dogs i've ever had, and she hates violence, she's even broken up fights between other dogs before pitbulls require training just like any dog, it's just that they have a greater capacity to do harm if they aren't

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;48667062]Unprovoked according to victims and witnesses. But has anyone asked the Pitbull? In all seriousness though, I'm highly doubtful that they attacked this man for no reason and as much as I'd like to discuss how right or wrong anyone is here I can't find any FACTS online. They're all opinion pieces and I won't discuss opinions. The best I can find is that Pitbulls are on average 40% more likely to be involved in such attacks than the other highest breed which I believe was rottweiler. But nothing mentions psychology or details the attacks.[/QUOTE] here have a North-America based analysis of dog attacks from 1982 to 2014. While I doubt the academic credentials of the source, the paper's methodology and sources are clear and bulletproof. [url]http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2014.pdf[/url]