• Out of control pit bulls as they attack multiple people in the middle of the street while their owne
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also pitbulls are the most common victims of animal abuse of all dog breeds, accounting for about a quarter of all dog abuse
[QUOTE=EcksDee;48667129]here have a North-America based analysis of dog attacks from 1982 to 2014. While I doubt the academic credentials of the source, the paper's methodology and sources are clear and bulletproof. [url]http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2014.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] The stats for the sharpei are pretty interesting. In the past they had a job that was pretty similar to what pit bulls were used for and are now considered to be fighting dogs like pits. And according to my dog's vet he's a pit/sharpei mix.
[QUOTE=No_0ne;48667202]also pitbulls are the most common victims of animal abuse of all dog breeds, accounting for about a quarter of all dog abuse[/QUOTE] So we solve two problems with one solution then, by creating restrictions and higher requirements for a person to buy a Pit.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;48667250]So we solve two problems with one solution then, by creating restrictions and higher requirements for a person to buy a Pit.[/QUOTE] There will still be illegal/backyard breeders.
[QUOTE=Makol;48667255]There will still be illegal breeders.[/QUOTE] Guess we should never make laws then. Since people will break them.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665692]Every single human involved on that street did everything wrong. The only people who didn't actively escalate the situation were the owner who simply didn't have enough control to do anything, and the ones who stayed upstairs and called the police. The way the man they were jumping on, and the ones who attempted to help him acted did nothing but provoke them. When a dog is in a fight they will not get beaten into submission, no matter what the breed, you need to distract them and relax them.[/QUOTE] this reads like satire. like really how can you be that naive and arrogant lmao
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48667271]Guess we should never make laws then. Since people will break them.[/QUOTE] Uh ok. The CDC and the White House already stated that there is no point to regulating dog breeds as it will change nothing. [url]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/breed-specific-legislation-bad-idea[/url]
Couldn't officers simply walk up to dog owners if they recognize a breed that requires special permissions and ask for them to provide said permission if they are on patrol and has time left over?
[QUOTE=Hellsten;48667308]Couldn't officers simply walk up to dog owners if they recognize a breed that requires special permissions and ask for them to provide said permission if they are on patrol and has time left over?[/QUOTE] They could, but apparently our government thinks that isn't worth doing. And just because someone has the right paperwork doesn't really prove they're a good owner.
[QUOTE=Hellsten;48667308]Couldn't officers simply walk up to dog owners if they recognize a breed that requires special permissions and ask for them to provide said permission when they are patrolling and has time left over?[/QUOTE] what if the officer is wrong and the dog isn't a pitbull, or what if it's only a mix? there's too many ambiguities for pitbull regulation to be practical to enforce
I've actually been asked what kind of dog I have by an officer in my neighborhood shortly after moving to a new state with my dog. At first I thought it was because of my dog being a pit since where I live there is some extra paperwork attached to owning a pit, but he was more curious about my dog being a dwarf. [QUOTE=No_0ne;48667332]what if the officer is wrong and the dog isn't a pitbull, or what if it's only a mix? there's too many ambiguities for pitbull regulation to be practical to enforce[/QUOTE] And this. My dog is a pit/sharpei mix and according the the paper posted earlier he way less of a threat than a normal pit bull despite being a mix of two well known fighting dog breeds.
My dog lost one of its eyes to a pitbull once. Owner just left it outside the house unattended.
Pit-Bulls are a shitty breed. They were bred to fight and that's what they do. They're often owned by dumbass dudebros who make the problem worse by acting like the dog is an extension of their dick and completely failing to train the dog [I]not[/I] to attack people. I don't care if you had one that was docile, I don't care if you knew someone that had a calm, loving pitbull. When study after study shows that pitbulls are involved in the majority of dog attacks on people and that the majority of unprovoked attacks were done by pitbulls, then there's something wrong with the breed. It's both a matter of the owners being shit and the dogs being shit. At the end of the day it doesn't matter. Owning and breeding pitbulls shouldn't be legal because they're dangerous, as proven by the numerous studies and statistical evidence.
I'm one of the rare people who find pitbulls not cute at all and find them scary as fuck. This video does not help at all.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665692]Every single human involved on that street did everything wrong. The only people who didn't actively escalate the situation were the owner who simply didn't have enough control to do anything, and the ones who stayed upstairs and called the police. The way the man they were jumping on, and the ones who attempted to help him acted did nothing but provoke them. When a dog is in a fight they will not get beaten into submission, no matter what the breed, you need to distract them and relax them.[/QUOTE] If that dog attacked you what would you do? You dont know shit lol.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48665578]People keep saying its the owners and it is to some extent but honestly. The breed is just violent. Look at what they did to that arm and how often this breed ends up attacking people.[/QUOTE] thats not exactly the problem The problem is that people most times get this dog for only one reason: because its tough and you can train it to be aggressive. The dog itself isn't the problem. The problem is the way you train it.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;48667357]Pit-Bulls are a shitty breed. They were bred to fight and that's what they do. They're often owned by dumbass dudebros who make the problem worse by acting like the dog is an extension of their dick and completely failing to train the dog [I]not[/I] to attack people. I don't care if you had one that was docile, I don't care if you knew someone that had a calm, loving pitbull. When study after study shows that pitbulls are involved in the majority of dog attacks on people and that the majority of unprovoked attacks were done by pitbulls, then there's something wrong with the breed.[/QUOTE] They were originally bred to hunt/pin down large animals like boars and bulls for sport, and herding livestock in some cases. So yeah, they're generally aggressive but they weren't meant for actual fighting.
Our cousins have an American pitbull named Murphy. One of the sweetest dogs I know. Well trained, doesnt jump on people, and when you fall asleep he cuddles up next to you. But damn does he have strong jaws. When we play tug-of-war wth him its fucking unreal how strong his bite us. You can lift him off the ground and he wont let go of the chew toy. And he legit rips toys to pieces with his teeth.
[QUOTE=NoobSauce;48667360]I'm one of the rare people who find pitbulls not cute at all and find them scary as fuck. This video does not help at all.[/QUOTE] depends on the breed those that have wide muscular bodies and pointy retracted ears or whatever look ugly as fuck, and people obviously only like them because "gangsta dog gon' protect me and muh weed from muh enemies"
It would be an incredibly dumb and shortsighted decision to ban a breed of dogs
[QUOTE=Makol;48667373]They were originally bred to hunt/pin down large animals like boars and bulls.[/QUOTE] You're thinking of bulldogs and terriers. Pitbulls were bred [I]from these[/I] and specifically as fighting dogs. Then as blood sports turned illegal pitbulls were partly used for hunting but a good portion was still illegally bred to maintain the (now illegal) blood sport circles going. They've always had a reputation of being brutal fighting dogs because that's why they exist. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=KingKombat;48667386]It would be an incredibly dumb and shortsighted decision to ban a breed of dogs[/QUOTE] Dog breeds are purely a human creation and it thus falls onto human hands to decide whether or not a breed should live or die. 300 years ago, pitbulls didn't exist. We created them. If they're dangerous and statistically responsible for a large amount of dog attacks (a noticeable amount of which are lethal), it's up to us to remove them because they present a clear danger.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;48667357]Pit-Bulls are a shitty breed. They were bred to fight and that's what they do. They're often owned by dumbass dudebros who make the problem worse by acting like the dog is an extension of their dick and completely failing to train the dog [I]not[/I] to attack people. I don't care if you had one that was docile, I don't care if you knew someone that had a calm, loving pitbull. When study after study shows that pitbulls are involved in the majority of dog attacks on people and that the majority of unprovoked attacks were done by pitbulls, then there's something wrong with the breed. It's both a matter of the owners being shit and the dogs being shit. At the end of the day it doesn't matter. Owning and breeding pitbulls shouldn't be legal because they're dangerous, as proven by the numerous studies and statistical evidence.[/QUOTE] even if you magically eliminated pitbulls, nothing would change. shitty owners would cling to some other """"tough"""" breed of dog and the cycle starts over again at any rate, pitbull related fatalities doesn't hold a candle to fatalities cause by, you know, humans. guess we should outlaw those too, they're too dangerous
[QUOTE=No_0ne;48667403]even if you magically eliminated pitbulls, nothing would change. shitty owners would cling to some other """"tough"""" breed of dog and the cycle starts over again at any rate, pitbull related fatalities doesn't hold a candle to fatalities cause by, you know, humans. guess we should outlaw those too, they're too dangerous[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure it's already illegal to engineer bloodthirsty humans designed to fight and only fight via selective breeding.
[QUOTE=No_0ne;48667403] ven if you magically eliminated pitbulls, nothing would change. shitty owners would cling to some other """"tough"""" breed of dog and the cycle starts over again at any rate, pitbull related fatalities doesn't hold a candle to fatalities cause by, you know, humans. guess we should outlaw those too, they're too dangerous[/QUOTE] Laws exist to serve human society first.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;48665594]They should not be allowed. They were bred for this, it's in their genes.[/QUOTE] WTF does this have so many agrees? Dogs (especially pit-bulls) aren't "born evil" or "it's in their genes to be killers." It's the owners fault for raising them/treating them this way. Dogs become dangerous when they are raised in a hostile setting, much like how a child being raised by shitty parents in a terrible environment will lead to them becoming sociopaths. It's the owners responsibilities to mold them into "Man's Best Friend" that we are all familiar with. These dogs had a shitty owner(s), simple as that. Just because pit-bulls are known to be violent that doesn't mean that they have no capacity for love. [IMG]http://terriblycute.com/files/2013/03/Pasket-of-Pitbull-bird-and-bunnies-632x631.jpg[/IMG] Same thing as my two Shih Tzus. They're known to be extremely stubborn and aggressive to much larger animals with the exception of the oldest dog. He's mellowed down with age and is very sociable possibly due to a head injury as a pup. Still stubborn when begging for cookies though. Years of raising them made them break out these "traits" and we still love them all the same. [IMG]https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1948178_10202638312237282_7685672878750898384_n.jpg?oh=41083b275cffe791309147cd856e2cc4&oe=566165D5[/IMG]
apparently the owner (not in the video) actually ordered the dogs to attack the guy. fucking scum of the earth
wow that dude is going to need a blood transfusion jeez
[QUOTE=Kommodore;48667512]wow that dude is going to need a blood transfusion jeez[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, it'll leave permanent scaring. Pitbulls are scary because they're really hard to defend against, short of having a gun there's very little you can do; they have very [I]very[/I] tough muscles around their neck and chest, making any lethal knife strike inefficient, have a very high tolerance for pain, and if you get caught in their jaws, you're pretty much done for.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;48667415]I'm pretty sure it's already illegal to engineer bloodthirsty humans designed to fight and only fight via selective breeding.[/QUOTE] this blind demonization is part of the problem, pitbulls become taboo because "they're too dangerous" and end up chained in front of some asshole's house for "security", then the neglected pitbull does something bad because it was never trained or loved. pitbulls get demonized again, cycle repeats ad infinitum. you guys talk like pitbull are walking murder machines, yet probably have never interacted with a pitbull in your entire lives, your only experience being videos of extreme cases such as this.
The amount of people in here willing to shit all over the entire breed just because morons tend to get these dogs as defense. Like someone else here said, if we ban pitbulls these same "defense"-idiots will just get the next best thing instead. And what will happen? The statistics will adjust. The reason those other breeds aren't as high up on the scale of dangerous dogs is because people choose pitbulls instead. So if you ban pitbulls, another strong dog breed will take it's place in the statistics. Pitbulls are adorable dogs, and if you raise them right they'll be like any other breed. I grew up around german shephards. They're also very common for defense, in fact they're the #1 choice of dog for police and military. Guess we should ban them too in the process, right?
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