Out of control pit bulls as they attack multiple people in the middle of the street while their owne - General

I'm pretty sure if you put restrictions on owning pitbulls we'd see the number of dog attacks go way down.

Your dog is your reflection. And people wonder why they have hostile dogs.

[QUOTE={TFS} Rock Su;48668670]Your dog is your reflection. And people wonder why they have hostile dogs.[/QUOTE] While that is mostly true if they feel the owner has become threatened some dogs will attempt to defend their owner.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665901]Again: all dogs were bred to kill. The subspecies evolved from early humans training wolves to serve as hunting partners because they had similar hunting capacity to humans themselves and different breeds formed from specialized breeding for specific types of game.[/QUOTE] Those murderous chihuahuas. But serioiusly, no. A lot of dogs, dare i say most are bred for tracking, others are bred for work (such as pulling a sledge), and others are bred for just being companions, etc.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;48665974]I just don't understand why you would ever specifically want a pit bull like there are plenty of dogs out there in need of owners, plenty of which will not murder someone if they aren't properly trained would it really be such a bad thing if pit bulls just went away and were instead replaced with a breed that isn't as easily capable of overpowering and murdering an adult human[/QUOTE] They're cute as fuck to be honest man. We've had our pitbull for a little over two years. Adorable fucker.

Holy fuck all these people using the "Well I had/ knew this one nice pitbull so all of them are nice." argument.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;48665875]a poodle will not have the same strength to tear off someones arm as a pitbull would, for example[/QUOTE] I don't think a pitbull (much less a poddle) could survive in the wild.

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;48669196]Holy fuck all these people using the "Well I had/ knew this one nice pitbull so all of them are nice." argument.[/QUOTE] Yeah and "These dogs are often bought by shitty people who dont train them and end up making them violent so the breed is bad and violent" is just as fucking stupid. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Jesus Christ the amount of people in here who are just shitting themselves over pit bulls because "but but but they're VIOLENT and DERANGED and they're always with shitty DUDEBROS and and and they and they cause most dog related deaths!" Well no shit they cause the most damage when they're in possession of stupid violent fucks, mostly [i][b]because[/b][/i] of this whole fucking idea of the pit bull being crazy, violent, and aggressive dudebro dogs.

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;48669196]Holy fuck all these people using the "Well I had/ knew this one nice pitbull so all of them are nice." argument.[/QUOTE] Even more are using the "this obviously anecdotal and sensationalist article is the only time I've seen one so they must all be killers" argument.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;48668567]This nearly happened to me on the way to work this week, I was just walking and the dog started charging at me nearly took a good bit of my leg out luckily it didn't bit in but seriously pitpulls/rotwilers need HEAVY restrictions on owning and taking them out in public.[/QUOTE] Yet the most aggressive dogs tend to be lapdogs. Mostly because no one bothers to train them. I'll agree to one thing though. Larger breeds of dogs should all undergo mandatory training with their trainers. [QUOTE=glitchvid;48668336]IIRC Pits have very strong jaws, and a lot of neck muscle, making choking them out ineffective, I finally found a fairly well written [url=https://exigentcircumstance.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/combative-anatomy-how-to-fight-a-dog/]article[/url] on some methods (Not for the squeamish), I have been lucky enough to never be in a bad situation with a dog, I cannot say the same for my father though.[/QUOTE] Yep, pretty much exactly what I said though. Keep your cool, go for the snout and limbs. You're bigger and stronger. The problem is people tend to panic and flail around.

you can't just ignore concrete evidence and use a blanket statement like "well it's always the owner's fault." you're being obtuse, there's obviously a bit of a problem with the animal itself here

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669332]you can't just ignore concrete evidence and use a blanket statement like "well it's always the owner's fault." you're being obtuse, there's obviously a bit of a problem with the animal itself here[/QUOTE] lol are you fucking serious.

um, im being completely serious. it's an aggressive breed that was made in the last 300 years by man that got inbred to all fucking hell how are you not seeing the issue?

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669357]um, im being completely serious. it's a breed that was made in the last 300 years by man that got inbred to all fucking hell how are you not seeing the issue?[/QUOTE] Do i have to point out that, again, the idea of Pit Bulls being deranged psychotic killing machines is pretty much the sole reason behind dumbfuck violent assholes buying them in the first place, which makes it uh... Whats it called, a self fulfilling prophecy or is it circular reasoning?

lmao here's an example of inbreeding problems [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Bull_terrier_2.jpg[/IMG] youre ignoring the fact that were absolutely fucking dog breeds all to hell and it makes their lives terrible. ie cancer, ocd, trouble breathing (pugs??) the list goes on

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48665692], no matter what the breed, you need to distract them and relax them.[/QUOTE] ah of course, like this you mean: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2-8gt44ykc[/media]

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669390]lmao here's an example of inbreeding problems [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Bull_terrier_2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] What? [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Thats a Bull Terrier, by the way.

I'm well aware I'm trying to say that you can't ignore that certain dog breeds are going to be a little fucked. because of us they can be the sweetest dogs in the world but only because their owners are great. which is why they need to be regulated and made sure they're probably cared for so shit like this doesn't happen sorry but i dont like watching a human being get torn to shreds

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669411]I'm well aware I'm trying to say that you can't ignore that certain dog breeds are going to be a little fucked. because of us[/QUOTE] What. What are you even arguing with this, skull deformities? [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] I thought we were discussing the pit bull being inherently violent or not.

ok. yes, it has a tendency. it is there. you can train it and it can be the sweetest dog ever but its there. you cant really change genetics

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669390]lmao here's an example of inbreeding problems [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Bull_terrier_2.jpg[/IMG] youre ignoring the fact that were absolutely fucking dog breeds all to hell and it makes their lives terrible. ie cancer, ocd, trouble breathing (pugs??) the list goes on[/QUOTE] Except right now you're mixing together behavioural and body problems into one bag. There really aren't that large differences between dog temperaments. Sure some are more energetic, others smarter or have slightly different behaviour. But really no dog is inclined to be significantly more aggressive than others. The reason why lapdogs and fight dogs tend to be the most common agressors is due to how people treat them. People that get larger dogs tend to get training alongside with them. Whereas those that get fighting dogs often try to make them more aggressive due to how they treat them. Lapdogs tend to be so aggressive because no one bothers to correct their behaviour. Oh see how cute it is that that chichuawa is pulling on the leash and barking. If it was something like a german shephard, it would not be cute but downright scary. There's no difference in the behaviour though.

[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;48668744]While that is mostly true if they feel the owner has become threatened some dogs will attempt to defend their owner.[/QUOTE] Which works differently with each dog. A Weiner dog defending his owner? A cute gesture, but we can already see the outcome: [IMG]http://www.gifbin.com/bin/042009/1241100353_anchorman-kicking-the-dog.gif[/IMG] A much larger, more built dog would do more in defending his home, but how much are you willing to train your dog to be this aggressive in defending you. This still goes the similar route: What is the owner like, how valuable is the house, what does the owner consider "training", etc. The lady in the video clearly has some problems on how to exercise caution with her pit bulls and how much she can abuse the power in these dogs. Going after a senior citizen with pit bulls is very...odd.

I don't think a single person here can say with 100% certainty on whether pit bulls are inherently violent or not. Here's sites covering both sides of the argument: [url]https://www.aspca.org/adopt/truth-about-pit-bulls[/url] [url]http://www.dogsbite.org/[/url]

[QUOTE=elevate;48669456]I don't think a single person here can say with 100% certainty on whether pit bulls are inherently violent or not. Here's sites covering both sides of the argument: [url]https://www.aspca.org/adopt/truth-about-pit-bulls[/url] [url]http://www.dogsbite.org/[/url][/QUOTE] I know i can say with 100% certainty that whether or not they are, its the owners fault for not disciplining them or allowing violent/aggressive behavior to be the norm.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;48669440]Except right now you're mixing together behavioural and body problems into one bag. There really aren't that large differences between dog temperaments. Sure some are more energetic, others smarter or have slightly different behaviour. But really no dog is inclined to be significantly more aggressive than others. The reason why lapdogs and fight dogs tend to be the most common agressors is due to how people treat them. People that get larger dogs tend to get training alongside with them. Whereas those that get fighting dogs often try to make them more aggressive due to how they treat them. Lapdogs tend to be so aggressive because no one bothers to correct their behaviour. Oh see how cute it is that that chichuawa is pulling on the leash and barking. If it was something like a german shephard, it would not be cute but downright scary. There's no difference in the behaviour though.[/QUOTE] I'm not arguing that that little chihuahua isn't any less aggressive then the pitbull down the street is the problem is that chihuahua wasn't bred to be a fighting dog. the pitbull was. the pitbull is more of a threat. a pretty scary threat if you have kids around. it's been mulled over but that's why they need to be regulated somehow or made sure their owners aren't absolute shitheads when they're being bought. this will never happen though

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669477]I'm not arguing that that little chihuahua isn't any less aggressive then the pitbull down the street is the problem is that chihuahua wasn't bred to be a fighting dog. the pitbull was. the pitbull is more of a threat. [b] a pretty scary threat if you have kids around.[/b] it's been mulled over but that's why they need to be regulated somehow or made sure their owners aren't absolute shitheads when they're being bought. this will never happen though[/QUOTE] Jesus fucking Christ.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;48669484]Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] lol yea are you kidding me right now? maybe i'm sensationalizing it but seriously if i had kids unless i was absolutely sure a pitbull is chill i'd keep them close, sorry bro. all the big dogs i knwo are great with kids, but if there was a pitbull strolling down the street i didnt know id be friendly but id keep my guard up. use some common sense jesus christ ive grown up with dogs all my life (who hasn't?). all the dogs ive been bitten by were small ones. i dont have anything against pitbulls, it's a fact of life

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669494]lol yea are you kidding me right now? maybe i'm sensationalizing it but seriously if i had kids unless i was absolutely sure a pitbull is chill i'd keep them close, sorry bro.[/QUOTE] And you'd only be doing that because of their reputation. If it was a German Shepard im sure you wouldnt give a shit.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;48665594]They should not be allowed. They were bred for this, it's in their genes.[/QUOTE] Dachshunds and Chihuahuas are the most aggressive dog breeds, Pit Bulls and Rottweilers are actually average to below average in aggressiveness. They are big dogs, however, so when they do attack they are more likely to make the news. [url]http://www.candogseat-this.com/research-study-finds-most-aggressive-dog-breeds/[/url] So how about not making shit up?

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669494] all the big dogs i knwo are great with kids, but if there was a pitbull strolling down the street i didnt know id be friendly but id keep my guard up. use some common sense jesus christ[/QUOTE] Okay now i know you're just talking out of your ass and you've never actually seen a pit bull in real life before. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Source: Someone who had a pit bull at four years old and retains all of his limbs and digits.