Out of control pit bulls as they attack multiple people in the middle of the street while their owne - General

but that's what you all are doing too? providing anecdotes like that video asteroid posted as somehow proof that the entire breed are all but perfect angels you aren't getting the major point and sorry but yea this part was just a little weird for me: [QUOTE]Yeah just like how all black people are evil niggers who will rape your daughters. No, not really.[/QUOTE]

Additionally, dog breeds come and go. There are breeds now that didn't exist 300 years ago, and breeds 300 years ago that no longer exist now, because the needs of the owner change and the context in which these dogs are bred also changes. Pitbulls are an "outdated" breed because their reason to exist is now illegal and will likely remain illegal for a really long time since that's not the kind of thing society usually looks back on and decides to allow again. As such, making selective breeding of pitbulls and their inbreeding strictly illegal, removing their pure breed status to prevent it from being used and strictly conditioning the breed's reproduction so that it may disappear or evolve into something less brutal isn't out of the question, and would in fact not be a bad solution to these issues. Of course people will try to breed different dogs for the same results. Of course putting down every pitbull alive to wipe the species off the face of the earth would be stupid. Establishing laws to ease this outdated and dangerous breed towards something that's less dangerous is still a viable solution.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;48669682]And why is it exactly do you think that is? [/QUOTE] They are a breed of dog that has been bred for centuries to be aggressive and deadly. Its not just that they're aggressive. Its that they can overpower an adult male who's lived a healthy life and tear his arm off.

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669904]but that's what you all are doing too? providing anecdotes like that video asteroid posted as somehow proof that the entire breed are all but perfect angels you aren't getting the major point and sorry but yea this part was just a little weird for me:[/QUOTE] I was comparing him saying the entire breed is bad to some racist hicks saying how black people are bad and it's in their blood. Yet we all know that's bullshit.

one is human, the other is not. you cannot compare the two imo for the record i hate the stereotype of pitbulls being all terrible but it is not without reason

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;48669943]I was comparing him saying the entire breed is bad to some racist hicks saying how black people are bad and it's in their blood. Yet we all know that's bullshit.[/QUOTE] are you saying that black people are animals selectively bred for crime I'm finding it really hard to understand what your point is

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;48669943]I was comparing him saying the entire breed is bad to some racist hicks saying how black people are bad and it's in their blood. Yet we all know that's bullshit.[/QUOTE] Except black people weren't bred specifically to be aggressive and good fighters in blood sports because the human brain is likely far too complex for this kind of selective breeding to work on human beings, on top of it being strictly illegal. The difference between saying a dog breed is bad and a specific part of the human race is bad is that the dog breed was created by man with a specific purpose in mind, while no human or animal interaction has influenced any human being to look like anything, and the few attempts at making these modifications have failed spectacularly. The core difference is that someone's skin color is determined by thousands of years of exposure to a certain climate which progressively wrote new physical traits into their genes which were then carried into later generations, that's evolution at work in a very visible instance. A dog's behavior is mostly determined by hundreds of years of selective breeding to eliminate certain traits and basically bruteforce the ones you want until they're the only ones to surface.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48669928] Its that they can overpower an adult male who's lived a healthy life and tear his arm off.[/QUOTE] Name a dog of a similar size who couldnt.

sorry but i think it has more than just to do with their size. it's that in combination with the way their brains are wired (among other things, like their pretty well above average jaw stength), as pointed out above they are absolutely diesel

[QUOTE=AaronM202;48670007]Name a dog of a similar size who couldnt.[/QUOTE] Pitbulls have an astonishing bodily strength to size ratio, they're powerhouses considering they're "only" 2 feet tall. A Golden Retriever or a Lab isn't as capable to tear your shit up as a pitbull despite being roughly the same size. Additionally, golden retrievers are bred to grab dead stuff and bring it back, while pit bulls are bred to cling onto living things and make them dead.

I can't believe nobody was kicking the dogs or anything, they were clearly a threat and I definitely wouldn't have thought twice about it after seeing the damage they did to that guy's arm. I like how the dumbfuck owner is just holding the one and still can't fucking control it

[QUOTE=Kylel999;48670103]I can't believe nobody was kicking the dogs or anything, they were clearly a threat and I definitely wouldn't have thought twice about it after seeing the damage they did to that guy's arm. I like how the dumbfuck owner is just holding the one and still can't fucking control it[/QUOTE] The people are either in shock or too scared to be attacked themselves. Hard to blame them, seeing someone get attacked by a raging dog is scary as fuck and there's a reason it takes professionals to deal with these situations.

If you have no weapon you really can't intervene. The people that did intervene just got attacked themselves. I wouldn't want to get my leg destroyed by these violent animals.

You can't really punch a dog to stop him either, that'd typically just get him more pissed off. Unless you can literally beat it to death with a blunt object or stab it, there's not much you can do.

If you come across something like this here is a video of how to stop the attack. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ebR37K8hDg[/media]

that thumbnail lmao

[QUOTE=AaronM202;48669510]And you'd only be doing that because of their reputation. If it was a German Shepard im sure you wouldnt give a shit.[/QUOTE] r u pulling the race card in a dog argument

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48665623]Last time I checked, most - if not all - dogs who attack people have to be put down, because one of the reasons could be that they probably won't treat people the same way as before the attack, and could become increasingly dangerous and almost impossible to re-educate... or so I've read. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] I've read some time ago that there are a few bloodlines of German/Belgian shepherds that can also be very agressive, yet I've never heard of those attacking people nearly as much as these other breeds do. It's always the same breeds; rottweilers and/or pitbulls. [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] Also, as a non-dog person, I think they're more beautiful than pitbulls and rottweilers, love that black fur that gives them a wolf-ish kinda look [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5kVV7Rg.jpg[/IMG] The way I see it, rottweilers and pitbulls are cool among "bros" because they think they're just badass, and are fetishized (that is to say, the dog ends up being an extension of their cocks, just like their jacked-up pickup trucks), but they know nothing about how to raise a dog, and unfortunately most of them end up on the wrong hands... which leads to incidents like these.[/QUOTE] Belgian shepherds are amazing dogs, but for the love of god, raise it properly. They are bred to have "sawtooth" teeth and those things can lock hard into your skin. My dad was brushing one of our dogs once and he fucked up somehow and she made a pretty deep bitewound into my dads finger. He had to go to the ER. We didn't put her down though, because it only happened once and eventually she got used to getting brushed in that spot she didnt like getting brushed in. Any dog can be a rude little shit, but the mentality of a dog will always reflect its owner and a violent dog is usually the result of a shitty, abusive owner. I really hope that the UN passes some basic "dogs rights" with one of the rights being that they are only sold to owners with a license. Dog license needs to be a thing. And some basic rights and laws needs to be passed so that dogs are not considered property as if they were lifeless objects, but more something along the lines of adopted children.

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;48669477]I'm not arguing that that little chihuahua isn't any less aggressive then the pitbull down the street is the problem is that chihuahua wasn't bred to be a fighting dog. the pitbull was. the pitbull is more of a threat. a pretty scary threat if you have kids around. it's been mulled over but that's why they need to be regulated somehow or made sure their owners aren't absolute shitheads when they're being bought. this will never happen though[/QUOTE] the thing is, what do you do as a cutoff? Do you base it off size? Do you base it off "fighting breeds" some other arbitrary thing. The thing is it's nearly impossible to do, since dogs all have a huge variation. And if you just restrict it to breeds, you're going to see other breeds being targeted by people that want aggressive dogs and the cycle continues.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;48670901]the thing is, what do you do as a cutoff? Do you base it off size? Do you base it off "fighting breeds" some other arbitrary thing. The thing is it's nearly impossible to do, since dogs all have a huge variation. And if you just restrict it to breeds, you're going to see other breeds being targeted by people that want aggressive dogs and the cycle continues.[/QUOTE] It's not like there's killer pitbull epidemic going on either, and most of the attacks that do happen could be avoided by forcing the owners into proper dog etiquette. Like obviously having them on a proper leash at all times and maybe a muzzle when out in public.

pitbulls have been bred to be violent dogs. That doesn't mean they should all be killed or something. I just think there should be more, I guess, warning? When a person owns a dog breed notorious for being vicious like that, they should be put under harder training, and the dog should. A lot of people think pitbulls are cute, same with lots of dogs that could be considered ugly to a lot of people. Plenty don't even want it as an attack dog, or house defense, or anything. But they should still know the risks and should have to train the dog more. I doubt that person trained their dogs at all if they're just going out of control like that. If the dog is aggressive, they should have a muzzle. They should have tighter leashes if they're a bit hyper. Things like this get noticed, but no one in poorer areas seems to care and then this happens.

Pitbulls are bred to be attack dogs, but it's the owners fault for not disciplining them.

Do some of you people actually believe you can just make a dog trained to attack a human being stop by "Grabbing it and calming it" I don't care if pitbulls are bred to eat cabbage. A dog, and a dog period, will become a wreckless attacker when trained to be hostile only until the owner demands otherwise. You aren't going to "Calm it into submission", it's going to rip your throat out. If you trained a poodle to be a killer I bet you they'd be nasty little bastards. Bred to kill or not, a dogs training or mishandling is what will make them violent above anything else. This is why people can tame crocs, and tame cheetahs. These animals are pure killing machines, bred in the wild to hunt prey and will succeed with absolute certainty. but if you train them right, a cheetah is nothing more than a giant cuddle-blanket. Same thing goes for the opposite, a cuddly warm domestic cat can become a psychotic little ball of anger if not handled right. If a dangerous animal knows humans to be a target, humans are a target. You aren't stopping them from killing you. Head to head, no tools involved, chances are, they are stronger, and better than you, and unless you have a way to stop them, you're screwed.

Why didnt anyone run the dogs over or choke them with the leash? Hit them with a metal pipe? They're just fucking dogs and should have been killed on the spot at that point. Hope the cops shot them when they got there. Poor guy, those bites are so painful.

[QUOTE=SGTSpartans;48671356]Why didnt anyone run the dogs over or choke them with the leash? Hit them with a metal pipe? They're just fucking dogs and should have been killed on the spot at that point. Hope the cops shot them when they got there. Poor guy, those bites are so painful.[/QUOTE] as messed up as it sounds you're pretty much spot on the only way this would end up being less than completely awful would be with a bullet nothing short of trying to kill the dogs will stop them

[QUOTE=J!NX;48671364]as messed up as it sounds you're pretty much spot on the only way this would end up being less than completely awful would be with a bullet nothing short of trying to kill the dogs will stop them[/QUOTE] I've been attacked by a pitbull before at a very young age, I got bit up pretty badly, thankfully my dog, a jack russell, got its attention before it could really cause some permanent damage. Sadly it killed my dog before my dad could blow it in half with the good old family shotgun. I don't hate pitbulls, its just at the point where the man is spewing blood those dogs lost their privilege to live.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;48669857]It's a bit stupid that most counter arguments to "pitbulls are violent" are either anecdotes ("my brother owns one and it hasn't killed anyone so it's fine") or weird ass shortcuts that don't make much sense like posting pictures of pitbulls with other animals to show they're not violent, or even worse, posting pictures of people with dangerous animals to prove they can be tamed.[/QUOTE] Except the part where I cited a scientific paper in a peer-reviewed journal studying the aggressiveness of dog breeds which found that pitbulls are of average aggressiveness, compared to dachshunds and chihuahuas which ranked at the top. I brought hard science to the table to support my views. What did you bring? Who is the one using bullshit arguments here? [editline]12th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;48671364]as messed up as it sounds you're pretty much spot on the only way this would end up being less than completely awful would be with a bullet nothing short of trying to kill the dogs will stop them[/QUOTE] This tangentially reminded me of this one crime show. I caught a few minutes of it flipping through channels, I think it was NCIS, and one of the main characters was literally mauled by a dog. So the dude took his gun out and shot the dog. The rest of the cast spent the entire episode giving him shit for shooting a poor defenseless dog. [editline]13th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Kylel999;48670103][B]I can't believe nobody was kicking the dogs or anything[/B], they were clearly a threat and I definitely wouldn't have thought twice about it after seeing the damage they did to that guy's arm. I like how the dumbfuck owner is just holding the one and still can't fucking control it[/QUOTE] I wouldn't have started a fight with a vicious, crazy dog, that would be stupid.

IIRC You have to train Pitbulls REALLY well, but if you do they're some of the most obedient dogs

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48669297]Even more are using the "this obviously anecdotal and sensationalist article is the only time I've seen one so they must all be killers" argument.[/QUOTE] Its like if someone used "these small minority of twitter users are sexist, all are sexist and video games are sexists. You should be familiar with this mr "Its okay to fuck kids because of video games I agree with and im a Brony at the same time" Im literally shaking for your next blog post. Im so pumped to hear what AsterioidTwilightSparkle the brony has to say about social politics. I mean if anyones to ask about social politics its def you dude/dudette, because you are such a lifeweaving pro.

sniper youre taking this a little too personally