[QUOTE=no1dead;49995887]I hate this video for one fucking thing, this guy has the balls to shit talk h3h3 and then post his tweet of his fucking DM's BUT HE'S DOING THE SAME FUCKING THING.
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So leafy is shit talking Pyro behind his back and Ethan is eating it up??? That's what I'm getting from this
[QUOTE=Xonax;49996029]Who? Ethan?
He moved to the United States like a year or two ago.[/QUOTE]
No he meant Ethan and Hila are revisiting Israel recently to meet up with Hila's family again.
This video doesn't change my opinion at all on H3H3 honestly. Even if he had that private conversation and it was all him just shit-talking that Pyro guy and Leafy was just "trying to protec my fren :(" what he wasn't if anything Leafy is saying way more bad shit about that Pyro guy than Ethan did, like Ethan said something stupid like he's cancer, Leafy's responses were actual like deep cutting insults on the guy.
But even if Ethan was the unrelenting bad guy Leafy and many people in this thread are making him out to be I don't give a fuck. Leafy is cringy no-talent scum, and Pyro, NFKRZ, Luna and all those hack's are all just as bad in my opinion, "WORST KID ON YOUTUBE" "WORST GIRL ON YOUTUBE" "MOST AUTISTIC KID ON YOUTUBE" caps lock title clickbait thumbnail bullshit are the new prank channels on youtube.
And honestly I find most of the kids that like them do it because they're surrogate friends to them.
Ethan's reply about all this:
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/h3h3productions/comments/4bqz7f/in_response_to_leafys_video/[/url]
[QUOTE=Thlis;49996208][B]That's his actual voice.[/B]
Have you considered that you might just be projecting because you disagree with his opinion?[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oEQfZwdhrc"][img]http://i.imgur.com/hmS7yDq.png[/img][/URL]
Are you sure?
jesus christ how do people turn youtube into such srs bizniz
[editline]24th March 2016[/editline]
Seriously, it's fucking pathetic on all sides.
[editline]24th March 2016[/editline]
Though tbh having a quick look at leafys channel (never seen his videos before), he does seem like a bit of a cunt
[QUOTE=kr1f333;49994874]what even provoked the h3h3 video to begin with? it just seems like he was trying to start shit[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure he thought that it was the right thing to do and did it with haste.
[QUOTE=Radio Yes;49996414]to anyone thinking Ethan started all this, think of this scenario:
A bully starts picking on an autistic kid at school, and his group of friends keep harassing him until the autistic kid literally breaks out into tears. you see this and confront the bully and tell him what he's been doing is wrong, then the bully, realizing he fucked up, tries to save face rather than directly apologizing the the autistic kid.
Who started it? Who is in the wrong?
If anyone is legitimately trying to defend Leafy in all this, I have no words.[/QUOTE]I would like to think of myself as neutral but I would also like to point out that Leafy apologized, even before he posted the rant about H3H3.
People make mistakes. Leafy seems like he genuinely did not know that the kid had autism. When he found out, he apologized.
[video]https://youtu.be/ShbBDjQ7zpA[/video]
That isn't an apology champ.
[QUOTE=The Janitor;49997095]That isn't an apology champ.[/QUOTE]What is it then?
What counts as an apology?
He admitted that he fucked up and apologized to the person he offended.
Humility of some form. Not justification of your actions.
[QUOTE=The Janitor;49997102]Humility of some form. Not justification of your actions.[/QUOTE]He did not try to justify his action in the video I posted, though; rather, he said that he is to blame and he knows he fucked up.
Did you watch the video?
Ethan's new post just reinforces what he said in the post about pyros video. Leafy has no integrity and is unprofessional. If this had been anyone but leafy? Chances are they wouldn't have gone the extra mile to post private messages publicly and facilitate their fans to become rabid. In the end, I hope people who are closely associated with leafy think twice about what they say, even if it seems innocent.
I also don't see his apology to be sincere, he only addressed the roast on tommy and compared it to tosh.0 which was extremely different.
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;49997130]I hope people who are closely associated with leafy think twice about what they say, even if it seems innocent.[/QUOTE]I totally agree there; Leafy's fans never think twice before bashing someone. They never consider that they may be really hurting the person they're bashing. Being attacked by a huge mob of people can really hurt; because you will feel like you're alone and that everyone's against you.
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;49997137]I totally agree there; Leafy's fans never think twice before bashing someone.
For example, I really felt bad for MrBlackDarkness666 when he got bashed by a huge amount of Leafy subscribers when he already had personal problems.[/QUOTE]
I agree but it was more towards other youtubers that associate with him.
His fans rabidly tearing into people? I blame leafy just as much for not discouraging or attempting to defuse it. Same with this situation, and you can say Ethan is t doing it either, but he has done it enough to the point where people who do instigate on his behalf should know better.
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;49997152]I agree but it was more towards other youtubers that associate with him.
His fans rabidly tearing into people? I blame leafy just as much for not discouraging or attempting to defuse it. Same with this situation, and you can say Ethan is t doing it either, but he has done it enough to the point where people who do instigate on his behalf should know better.[/QUOTE]The problem with Leafy's fanbase is that a huge amount of them are children or teenagers who seem to have not developed their critical thinking skills yet, so they don't think twice before bashing people. I agree with the point you made; it is also Leafy's fault for not discouraging such acts. I am sure Leafy is aware that a huge amount of his fans are children, yet he doesn't do anything to stop them from bashing people.
Wow all this dramas, these youtubers should probably stop for a bit and grow up in that time
[QUOTE=DarkWolf2;49996761]Ethan's reply about all this:
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/h3h3productions/comments/4bqz7f/in_response_to_leafys_video/[/url][/QUOTE]
cool so ethans good
[QUOTE=Araknid;49996847]jesus christ how do people turn youtube into such srs bizniz
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Seriously, it's fucking pathetic on all sides.[/QUOTE]
this is their livlihoods at stake and millions watch these people
how is it not srs bsns
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;49997093]I would like to think of myself as neutral but I would also like to point out that Leafy apologized, even before he posted the rant about H3H3.
People make mistakes. Leafy seems like he genuinely did not know that the kid had autism. When he found out, he apologized.
[video]https://youtu.be/ShbBDjQ7zpA[/video][/QUOTE]
idk, it just doesn't feel genuine to me and it feels like he's doing it just to save face.
Seriously, judging how literally all of his videos are him talking shit about little kids and people with obvious problems, it really makes it hard to believe that he actually gives a shit about Tommy.
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I'm probably just being overly sceptical though
This drama is literally retarded and a load of bullshit, if these people were supposedly friends they should all have worked it out in private.
I'll continue to watch both pyro and h3h3 no matter the outcome.
Fuck leafy though.
Leafy just comes across as a disingenuous prick.
His "apology video" didn't even feel like an apology. All he did was say "guys I know I fucked up please feel sorry for me" and compared what he did to the likes of Tosh which, I hate to say, doesn't contrast well because Tosh is a professional comedian/roaster. Leafy just attacks people. If leafy had said he was going to change how he approaches topics and how he goes about roasting people /that/ would be a different story. Instead we get a kid who can't even drink yet acting like he's the victim, harping on 3 sentences Ethan said to fit his narrative over and over, while subsequently disregarding the terrible shit he said about the very same person he's blasting Ethan for. And, once again, Leafy is just taking what Pyro said at face value without doing any research much like his attack on Tommy. Pyro seems like a psychopath. How could you leave out that one little detail that he and Ethan worked things out?
Fuck leafy. And fuck Pyro.
Fuck degenerate scum.
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Not to mention that Leafy also personally insulted Ethan. That just makes him look more guilty.
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So Leafy is being a two faced bitch by fucking with both Ethan and pyro??.?
I'm so confused
[QUOTE=joshuadim;49997821]So Leafy is being a two faced bitch by fucking with both Ethan and pyro??.?
I'm so confused[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm getting from it.
[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;49997093]I would like to think of myself as neutral but I would also like to point out that Leafy apologized, even before he posted the rant about H3H3.
People make mistakes. Leafy seems like he genuinely did not know that the kid had autism. When he found out, he apologized.
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this is the most scripted apology ive ever heard, both in voice tone and in wording. first, he himself states [I]that his own fans were the ones who perpetuated the death threats[/I] and immediately shifts the blame over to those toxic bunch, but then tries to be the big man by upholding responsibility. never once does he address his own failures in this fiasco, just does a big shrug and goes "well i'm sorry".
this is just classic damage control, nothing else -- people will use this video to justify that Ethan's a turdlord "since Leafy apologized and everything!"
comedians have been ripping into people since comedic art was created. people who hate on both for what they do are fools -- you wouldn't hate on a comedian for making jokes about Donald Trump, but of course it's completely taboo to rip on a disabled kid(usually). this isn't black & white, there's many angles to consider. This is why HarmfulOpinion's video doesn't make much sense to me, because he's trying to level the field by stating that Leafy -- who clearly seems to pick on easy targets by the content of his videos -- has been doing the same thing as Ethan -- who, as far as I know, only has one video where he's made fun of someone who wasn't a legal adult with good standing.
[QUOTE=aznz888;49997890]this is the most scripted apology ive ever heard, both in voice tone and in wording. first, he himself states [I]that his own fans were the ones who perpetuated the death threats[/I] and immediately shifts the blame over to those toxic bunch, but then tries to be the big man by upholding responsibility. never once does he address his own failures in this fiasco, just does a big shrug and goes "well i'm sorry".
this is just classic damage control, nothing else -- people will use this video to justify that Ethan's a turdlord "since Leafy apologized and everything!"
comedians have been ripping into people since comedic art was created. people who hate on both for what they do are fools -- you wouldn't hate on a comedian for making jokes about Donald Trump, but of course it's completely taboo to rip on a disabled kid(usually). this isn't black & white, there's many angles to consider. This is why HarmfulOpinion's video doesn't make much sense to me, because he's trying to level the field by stating that Leafy -- who clearly seems to pick on easy targets by the content of his videos -- has been doing the same thing as Ethan -- who, as far as I know, only has one video where he's made fun of someone who wasn't a legal adult with good standing.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with the points you made, now that I think about it. I guess it could be damage control.
I re-watched the apology video and noticed that Leafy's tone is a bit sarcastic at certain points. It could be just his voice, but now I am a bit sceptical about his apology. His slightly sarcastic tone makes me feel that his apology may not be genuine and may actually be mere damage control.
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Are you sure?[/QUOTE]
Considering he does +4 hour long streams tipsy, yes.
Can you post the context of that because I'm relatively sure he might be talking about when he lost his voice?
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49996477]so you're telling me that the voice he puts on at 1:27 and 0:22 is his normal voice? crazy how much it changes
stop using the word projecting for every single little thing btw[/QUOTE]
Are you actually confused by the concept of a person putting on a silly voice when speaking as another person?
It really just looks like that Leafy is mad that H3 made a video on him, so he's desperately scraping the bottom of the barrel to find some dirt against him.
His main points are that H3 was shit talking Pyro in a PM between 2 of them (he was also doing that too [url]http://imgur.com/a/7o5ku[/url] ), and that he also made fun of a kid.
The small 3 second clip of H3 making "fun" of the kid was posted over a year ago, and he was only joking about his haircut.
Then again, most of the Leafy's fanbase is 12 year olds, so it would be better if H3 makes a video about this, or else his comment section will be a clusterfuck and he will get thousands of dislikes from them.
Just check H3's comment section for the Leafy rant video, it's unbelievable ([url]http://i.imgur.com/NWt0GxC.jpg?1[/url]).
Also, one thing regarding Tommy, the video that Leafy posted, the one which started this controversy, its title kinda implied that he knew Tommy had autism in the first place:
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[QUOTE=Reflex F.N.;49997093]I would like to think of myself as neutral but I would also like to point out that Leafy apologized, even before he posted the rant about H3H3.
People make mistakes. Leafy seems like he genuinely did not know that the kid had autism. When he found out, he apologized.
[video]https://youtu.be/ShbBDjQ7zpA[/video][/QUOTE]
And? Even if this counts as an apology, 2 days later he started fanning the flames again because he wasn't sorry and he was really angry. Leafy is a scumbag and I'm glad h3 called him out on it, now I know to never support this lying, manipulaive, douchebags channel
Okay can someone give me a rundown of what happened, I really don't like looking into this YT drama that much but I guess its nice to stay informed.
At the beginning of the thread everyone was like "Damn Leafy's got a point, Ethan man what are you doing?", but now everyone is pretty much universally saying "Fuck Leafy the guy's a cunt and Ethan did nothing wrong". Did I miss something?
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