[QUOTE=sami-elite;32364454]Election 2
7.5
Good but not as good as 1. Good continuation though.[/QUOTE]
Dude Election 2 is vastly superior to the first one.
The narrative is tighter and more focused, the characters more fleshed out, the cinematography more memorable, everything that worked for the first film is improved upon whilst everything that didn't work is gone.
Don't get me wrong, Election is a great film but the sequel is much, much better.
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And A Clockwork Orange is by far Kubrick's best film.
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[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;32372777]also in the novel, i think only in the extended one i had a copy of it ends with alex putting away his devious ways and becoming a normal citizen[/QUOTE]
There are two versions of the book, Kubrick read the shorter one and wasn't even aware of the existence of the extended one when he started filming.
I read the extended version as well, and I'm still divided as to whether its ending is superior or inferior to the movie ending.
On one hand hey, the bad guy realizes the errors of his ways and is going to change his life for the better, that's gotta be a happy ending, right?
Whilst on the other hand, I couldn't help but feel that said ending turned the whole book into a bizzare coming of age story and not the dystopian nightmare that it seemed to be until that last chapter.
It was more The Catcher In The Rye and less 1984, if you get what I mean, and it just felt so out of place.
I love both the book and the movie, but I still can't make my mind up as to which one has the better ending.
I prefer the film's ending. [sp]It's his choice, what he does after being 'fixed' in the hospital - he could go either way. I didn't take it as him going straight back to his old ways. In the novel it seems a bit contrived. The point isn't that he's good or bad, but that he has choice over his actions again.[/sp]
[QUOTE=dirty harry;32373547]I prefer the film's ending. [sp]It's his choice, what he does after being 'fixed' in the hospital - he could go either way. I didn't take it as him going straight back to his old ways. In the novel it seems a bit contrived. The point isn't that he's good or bad, but that he has choice over his actions again.[/sp][/QUOTE]
It was implied that he was going to return to his destructive ways though, wasn't it?
[sp]The whole "I was cured, alright" thing with him imagining himself having sex with a woman in front of an approving crowd whilst Beethoven plays in the background.[/sp]
But yeah, the movie ending ultimately felt more natural and less heavy-handed
[QUOTE=RainstormChurch;32373137]Dude Election 2 is vastly superior to the first one.
The narrative is tighter and more focused, the characters more fleshed out, the cinematography more memorable, everything that worked for the first film is improved upon whilst everything that didn't work is gone.
Don't get me wrong, Election is a great film but the sequel is much, much better.
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I respect your opinion but Election 1 struck me as more impressive. The actions are more elaborate although slightly longer. The purity of both of them really impressed me, but 1 had more of it than 2. I think election 1 mainly impressed me by the ending in which Lok goes fishing and then youknowwhat happens.
[QUOTE=dannyduh;32350804]Drive 10/10
I rarely would say a movie deserved a perfect score, but I fucking loved this movie. I know there are those that will disagree with me, but that's why opinions are great, so I'm ready for your disagree marks and dumb marks, I still love this movie and nothing you can do to change that. :smile:
Soundtrack is fucking fantastic synth pop type music, gives the movie real character.
Nicholas Refn is an excellent director, and directed this very well. I was a bit worried with his previous work like Bronson and Valhalla Rising (which are both good), it would be very artsy and visual but as a movie as a whole not very fulfilling. Don't get me wrong I loved Bronson, but I'm glad Drive wasn't anything like it.
Ryan Gosling is so fucking cool as "The Driver", who's name is never said in the movie. Mostly silent, very soft spoken, and just cool. Kind of like The Man With No Name.
Bryan Cranston is in it, need I say more? He plays a bigger role than he did in Contagion which is good
Christina Hendricks is in it, one of my personal favorite actress hotties
Ultra suspenseful movie throughout
[B]ULTRA VIOLENT[/B] scenes in the movie, they don't happen often, but when they do, holy shit.
All in all, a great fucking movie, and I plan on seeing it again. I'd definitely recommend it. There will be some that will actively dislike it, I'm sure. But looking at reviews now, 93% RT, 5/5 on IGN, seems as though critics for the most part agree with me. I hope you guys do too. :D[/QUOTE]glad to see I'm not the only one who saw and loved that movie over the weekend. Too bad it's apparently getting bashed by user reviews on some sites. The popular theory is that the trailer made it look more action packed then it was, so people got the wrong idea about it and were bored by it's slow pacing. Too bad. Only real complaint I had is that I couldn't take ron pearlman seriously lol.
I love how the soundtrack bounces back and forth between synthpop and really moody, atmospheric music. The original soundtrack on the film is so fucking good. Great camerawork, great soundtrack, great story, just plain great movie.
ryan gosling's doing very well for himself this year I've noticed
[QUOTE=sami-elite;32374043]I respect your opinion but Election 1 struck me as more impressive. The actions are more elaborate although slightly longer. The purity of both of them really impressed me, but 1 had more of it than 2. I think election 1 mainly impressed me by the ending in which Lok goes fishing and then youknowwhat happens.[/QUOTE]
You mean the action scenes?
I can't really disagree with that, I loved how visceral some of the action scenes were, like the[sp]machete fight in the middle of the street[/sp]that takes place about halfway through, or the scene in which[sp]Lok and Big D proceed to straight up slaughter that one triad member in an empty bar whilst his men are getting arrested by the cops outside[/sp]. The sequel was generally fairly lacking in action when compared to the first one, and except for a couple of scenes[sp](ahem, the meat grinder)[/sp]it seemed much tamer than the original when it came down to violence and gore.
And yeah, the ending of Election 1 was insane.
[QUOTE=RainstormChurch;32374610]You mean the action scenes?
I can't really disagree with that, I loved how visceral some of the action scenes were, like the[sp]machete fight in the middle of the street[/sp]that takes place about halfway through, or the scene in which[sp]Lok and Big D proceed to straight up slaughter that one triad member in an empty bar whilst his men are getting arrested by the cops outside[/sp]. The sequel was generally fairly lacking in action when compared to the first one, and except for a couple of scenes[sp](ahem, the meat grinder)[/sp]it seemed much tamer than the original when it came down to violence and gore.
And yeah, the ending of Election 1 was insane.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Precisely that.
I think it's the level realism that's so incredible. I love the attention to detail Johnnie to put's into his movies. I mean in 2, nearing the end [sp]in the back of the truck the hired hand/hitman said it would cost more money and then pushed the casket out anyway. Just the way he did that and how he reacted while facing death is impressive.[/sp]
[QUOTE=sami-elite;32375044]Exactly. Precisely that.
I think it's the level realism that's so incredible. I love the attention to detail Johnnie to put's into his movies. I mean in 2, nearing the end [sp]in the back of the truck the hired hand/hitman said it would cost more money and then pushed the casket out anyway. Just the way he did that and how he reacted while facing death is impressive.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Johnnie To's films generally seem to have that sort of cold, detached feel when it comes to death and violence, both in front of and behind the camera, and the way in which he approaches those sorts of scenes always manages to leave much bigger of an impact and impression on me than the average ultraviolent film of the west.
The man knows his shit, there's no denying it.
Blade Runner 2/10
All style, no substance.
[h2]Hanna - 7 / 10[/h2]
It was pretty good, but I didn't like the ending and I didn't really care about finding out why the chick with the annoying southern drawl was after her. Great visuals, awesome soundtrack, and frenetic, realistic fight scenes as far as human lethal weapons go.
The Departed
Definitely ranks up there with Scorsese's best. Great performances all around with a story that surprised me at points and kept me enthralled all the way through.
However there's one scene in the beginning where Jack Nicholson has a cigarette in his mouth in one shot, but in the next shot it disappears suddenly without explanation. This glaring error mars the film by a few points. It's a shame because this had the potential to be one of my favourites.
4/10
[QUOTE=Tomethy;32377747]Blade Runner 2/10
All style, no substance.[/QUOTE]
No, you just missed it. But that's ok. Too many people say it's the best movie ever.
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[QUOTE=RainstormChurch;32376406]Johnnie To's films generally seem to have that sort of cold, detached feel when it comes to death and violence, both in front of and behind the camera, and the way in which he approaches those sorts of scenes always manages to leave much bigger of an impact and impression on me than the average ultraviolent film of the west.
The man knows his shit, there's no denying it.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen his other films? I've seen exile too (which is fantastic) but i was wondering if you could recommend a Johhny To film to me, granted you've seen more of them.
[QUOTE=Tomethy;32377747]Blade Runner 2/10
All style, no substance.[/QUOTE]
Dude Bladerunner is great.
[QUOTE=sami-elite;32380596]Have you seen his other films? I've seen exile too (which is fantastic) but i was wondering if you could recommend a Johhny To film to me, granted you've seen more of them.[/QUOTE]
The Election flicks are considered to be his best work, but I've heard good things about Vengeance and Mad Detective, even if they're not in his usual style.
I haven't seen Exiled, I really oughta give that a look-see.
[QUOTE=dirty harry;32373547]I prefer the film's ending. [sp]It's his choice, what he does after being 'fixed' in the hospital - he could go either way. I didn't take it as him going straight back to his old ways. In the novel it seems a bit contrived. The point isn't that he's good or bad, but that he has choice over his actions again.[/sp][/QUOTE]
I thought the ending's message was that people don't change. Once a destructive psychopath, always a destructive psychopath
Dear Zachary
8/10 really interesting but incredibly sad and rage inducing
[QUOTE=Tomethy;32377747]Blade Runner 2/10
All style, no substance.[/QUOTE]
You are a joke
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32388146]I thought the ending's message was that people don't change. Once a destructive psychopath, always a destructive psychopath[/QUOTE]
That's kinda what the movie said, not a bad ending in a lot of ways. The book had an extra chapter after it though where he got bored with it and decided to stop. It's not in the movie because the American book didn't have the last chapter and Kubrick didn't know it existed.
Yeah I'm aware of that, but I just think the shortened ending is the most realistic one.
I liked it better but it probably is more realistic that he grows up. Not that he learned what he was doing to people and had an epiphany or that rehabilitation worked, just that he grew up and got bored of being a reckless kid. Interests changed, he saw what other people had and became envious, not that hard to believe but shows a far different ending.
[QUOTE=pie_is_good;32378191]The Departed
Definitely ranks up there with Scorsese's best. Great performances all around with a story that surprised me at points and kept me enthralled all the way through.
However there's one scene in the beginning where Jack Nicholson has a cigarette in his mouth in one shot, but in the next shot it disappears suddenly without explanation. This glaring error mars the film by a few points. It's a shame because this had the potential to be one of my favourites.
4/10[/QUOTE]
Martin has lost the plot with these mediocre mistakes.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;32388812]I liked it better but it probably is more realistic that he grows up. Not that he learned what he was doing to people and had an epiphany or that rehabilitation worked, just that he grew up and got bored of being a reckless kid. Interests changed, he saw what other people had and became envious, not that hard to believe but shows a far different ending.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between being a reckless teenager and countless instances of murder and rape.
A psychopath like that will not ever change and it's unrealistic that he just 'grows up'.
American Beauty 9/10
Yeah, that's Kevin Spacey's best performance. Damn good movie.
"Martyrs" looks kinda interesting.
Is it any good? Or is it just torture porn?
i liked it
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32389247]There's a difference between being a reckless teenager and countless instances of murder and rape.
A psychopath like that will not ever change and it's unrealistic that he just 'grows up'.[/QUOTE]
Being a sociopath maybe but there's plenty of function sociopaths around. Everything else, people change a lot going through adolescence. Rehabilitation often works best on young people and with nothing but his own tendencies keeping him in that attitude it's not that unlikely.
Open Season: 6/10
enjoyable childrens movie.
Shaolin (2011)
I'll go ahead and give it a 9/10, Jackie Chan should have more screen time otherwise i'd give it a solid 10
american psycho 2
oh god what is this shit/10
How to train your dragon
10/10 love the flying scenes
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