Why aliens couldn't have visted the Earth. - General

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19112652]Way to double post, douche. All that was in quintessence is a bullshit rant with swearing and some of the most [B]closed minded[/B] remarks I have ever heard. Do you understand the physics involved in traveling faster than light? Do you know what a photon is? The implications for regular baryonic matter to travel ftl are simply impossible. Infinity in the standard model completely ruins the whole system. Who the hell are you to call carbon based life simple? If we can't see any within our own solar system, or multiple surrounding us, maybe it is harder to find than you thought. A wormhole is a tear in spacetime, the fabric of your being. Stop talking like you have any fucking clue what you are talking about because you don't.[/QUOTE] it will all change in 100 years anyway [img]http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8872/crazybaby2.png[/img]

Im 100% sure that they haven't visited our planet. But of course they exist. This can't be the only planet with life on it..

[QUOTE=SlicedBread;19110350]We know for certain that there is no [B]intelligent[/B] life in the milky way system, besides us.[/QUOTE] My IQ dropped a few points just reading this.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19110818]I believe aliens HAVE visited Earth Description of UFO like this wasn't exactly popular in China nor is he unreliable because he's a scholar. But I believe most encounters after this is bullshit, especially today. Not Roswell, not Tunguska, not that pyramid over Russia, and etc.[/QUOTE]To quote Neil Tyson: Eyewitness testimony is the lowest form of evidence in Science.

[QUOTE=Fullforce;19112754]How do you know this?[/QUOTE] he thinks he is smart

[QUOTE=fuck;19112703]Im 100% sure that they haven't visited our planet.[/QUOTE] how do you know? :confused: I don't think you can know for sure.

When a thread gets to be a couple pages long, people should realize if there are any stupid questions/statements in the OP they have probably already been addressed or are currently being. Thinking like this might stop the continuation of people pointing out their stupidity for no reason loads of pages later.

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19112652]Way to double post, douche. All that was in quintessence is a bullshit rant with swearing and some of the most closed minded remarks I have ever heard. Do you understand the physics involved in traveling faster than light? Do you know what a photon is? The implications for regular baryonic matter to travel ftl are simply impossible. Infinity in the standard model completely ruins the whole system. Who the hell are you to call carbon based life simple? If we can't see any within our own solar system, or multiple surrounding us, maybe it is harder to find than you thought. A wormhole is a tear in spacetime, the fabric of your being. Stop talking like you have any fucking clue what you are talking about because you don't.[/QUOTE] Only the basics, but unless you're a physicist I doubt you know any more than me, and the simple fact that we've moved particles faster than the speed of light, which was thought to be impossible until it was actually done, kinda proves that we don't know that it can't be done, or there aren't simpler ways to do it. I didn't call it simple. Point it out to me where I said it was simple. A wormhole is indeed what you described. I simply said we hadn't found any, nor know how they work beyond basically unprovable theories and alot of sci-fi talk that's been picked up into public opinion over the years. We don't much know what to look for, and the ideas on how to locate one or identify it are based around other theories based on theories. Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling any of it wrong or anyhting- I believe in many of the current theories and enjoy reading that basics of some of the newer quantum theories and stuff. And I'm not close minded on the topic it's my opinion, and I'm arguing that saying that it's impossible is just plain ignorant, and you can look to history time and time again to show that, as I said, simply because our theories and current beliefs seem right and the only way now does not mean that they are right, or we can't work around them. Maybe UFOs aren't alien, maybe UFOs don't exist, but the idea that there isn't any way that they could travel here is rather ignorant at best.

[QUOTE=SlicedBread;19110350]Something I wrote. We know for certain that there is no [B]intelligent[/B] life in the milky way system, besides us.[/QUOTE] Um... no, we don't. I don't think you know for sure what you are talking about, or you did a terrible job proof reading this.

Why do you keep producing massive walls of text? condense that shit, boy.

[QUOTE=Zoook;19112857]Um... no, we don't. I don't think you know for sure what you are talking about, or you did a terrible job proof reading this.[/QUOTE] it's been quoted 5+ times, we know that's a dumb statement, you don't need to quote it again.

[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19112866]Why do you keep producing massive walls of text? condense that shit, boy.[/QUOTE] No, he doesn't need to dumb himself down for you.

[QUOTE=Detective P;19112827]Only the basics, but unless you're a physicist I doubt you know any more than me, and the simple fact that we've moved particles faster than the speed of light, which was thought to be impossible until it was actually done, kinda proves that we don't know that it can't be done, or there aren't simpler ways to do it. I didn't call it simple. Point it out to me where I said it was simple. A wormhole is indeed what you described. I simply said we hadn't found any, nor know how they work beyond basically unprovable theories and alot of sci-fi talk that's been picked up into public opinion over the years. We don't much know what to look for, and the ideas on how to locate one or identify it are based around other theories based on theories. Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling any of it wrong or anyhting- I believe in many of the current theories and enjoy reading that basics of some of the newer quantum theories and stuff. And I'm not close minded on the topic it's my opinion, and I'm arguing that saying that it's impossible is just plain ignorant, and you can look to history time and time again to show that, as I said, simply because our theories and current beliefs seem right and the only way now does not mean that they are right, or we can't work around them. Maybe UFOs aren't alien, maybe UFOs don't exist, but the idea that there isn't any way that they could travel here is rather ignorant at best.[/QUOTE] No, we have not moved particles faster than the speed of light. We know it is impossible to move baryonic matter faster than the speed of light. This is simply because it has mass. Photons lack mass, and therefore are capable to move faster than the speed of light Now you are not close minded, but that previous wall of text pushed every word you said as if it were set in stone. Just recognize the facts, or at least what is mathematically feasible.

-snip- :downs: and bad reading.

There's gotta be life out there, space is far too big for us to be a one off. Even if they aren't out there now, it doesn't mean something couldn't have been out there before or after we're around. We may be a fluke, but just take one look up into that sky and tell me that we're the only ones. [QUOTE=glennman94;19110655]Fun fact: Did you guys know we know more things about the surface of mars than we do about the very deep spots in the ocean? just sayin :cool:[/QUOTE] thats the moon, not mars

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19112652]Way to double post, douche. [/QUOTE] And what? Point out where I double posted. I added all of that in one post and did some post-posting proofreading after for spelling mistakes (I still missed a few). And it didn't post twice.

[QUOTE=huggybear_13;19112917]No, he doesn't need to dumb himself down for you.[/QUOTE] Condense =/= dumb down

[QUOTE=Detective P;19112959]And what? Point out where I double posted. I added all of that in one post and did some post-posting proofreading after for spelling mistakes (I still missed a few). And it didn't post twice.[/QUOTE] Although it is rather irrelevant, I believe I saw a quoting of your post and saw it as is if the original poster posted it twice. Sorry about that.

[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19112979]Condense =/= dumb down[/QUOTE] just read it, don't be lazy.

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? The milky way is immense. If they did exist, why would they want to visit a world filled with people like the OP who make pointless threads with no logic to back their argument up, other than things they come up with off the back of their heads.

Thats just dumb

[QUOTE=Sparkwire;19112979]Condense =/= dumb down[/QUOTE] Why condense a passionate testimony? People won't cater for your laziness :D

There's bound to be Sentient Life out there.

You've changed my opinion on this subject, now. Who thought a kid on some forum with no knowledge on anything that he's talking about would have been able to do that. Wow..

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19112924]No, we have not moved particles faster than the speed of light. We know it is impossible to move baryonic matter faster than the speed of light. This is simply because it has mass. Photons lack mass, and therefore are capable to move faster than the speed of light Now you are not close minded, but that previous wall of text pushed every word you said as if it were set in stone. Just recognize the facts, or at least what is mathematically feasible.[/QUOTE] Again, while that may seem true, at one point alchemy was seen just as true as our current theories say now. Yes, our current theories show that we can not move faster than the speed of light, admitted. But I'm sticking with my argument that the technology that may be produced could possibly work around it, or make use of undiscovered or currently inunderstandable (I know that's not actually a word, also, before anyone calls me out on it) technology or resources. We don't understand the universe currently. Our knowledge is limited, and we don't even understand much about our own solar system, let alone the extreme basics of quantum physics, or the whole universe in general. Admittedly my argument is that it might happen, so it's feasible. I don't have evidence that it will. I am basing this on history and technology and beliefs then compared to now. I'm placing us in the position of someone far ago and extraterrestrials in the position of us now. If you don't believe my argument holds up, ok. I'm not telling anyone they should believe my side, I'm providing an argument and trying to defend it, but it's their job to decide, and anyone else is encouraged to argue against me and try to persuade others.

There's a way to make wormholes. :goatse:

Scientists: "lol ev3rythign nedes teh watur an ocksijen 2 liv k!!!11!" Me: "Aliens are aliens. Lifeforms are lifeforms. Bacteria can adapt to the environment. Bacteria evolves and can STILL adapt to the environment. Bacteria involves into sentient being and is fully adapted to it's lava planet filled with nitrogen gas and 4000 degrees kelvin in air temperature."

[QUOTE=Detective P;19113145]Again, while that may seem true, at one point alchemy was seen just as true as our current theories say now. [b]Yes, our current theories show that we can not move faster than the speed of light, admitted.[/b] But I'm sticking with my argument that the technology that may be produced could possibly work around it, or make use of undiscovered or currently inunderstandable (I know that's not actually a word, also, before anyone calls me out on it) technology or resources. We don't understand the universe currently. Our knowledge is limited, and we don't even understand much about our own solar system, let alone the extreme basics of quantum physics, or the whole universe in general. Admittedly my argument is that it might happen, so it's feasible. I don't have evidence that it will. I am basing this on history and technology and beliefs then compared to now. I'm placing us in the position of someone far ago and extraterrestrials in the position of us now. If you don't believe my argument holds up, ok. I'm not telling anyone they should believe my side, I'm providing an argument and trying to defend it, but it's their job to decide, and anyone else is encouraged to argue against me and try to persuade others.[/QUOTE] Yes, alchemy was considered true. However, do you not think it illogical to compare times of such vast different technology. The things we have learned about mathematics and physics makes us much more comfortable with the information that I have proposed. I don't see why you keep spreading misinformation. We understand more about the universe than you might think. We can find out the distance of a start by observing its composition. Our knowledge of the known universe and our own solar system has evolved amazingly. When you compare our society to the middle ages, you cast us in a negative light. We have much more perspective of physics, biology, chemistry, medicine, mathematics, engineering. We are only comparable by our human nature.

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19113270]However, do you not think it illogical to compare times of such vast different technology.[/QUOTE] Think about what we have now that we didn't have in the year one thousand nine (1009 AD) that's what I THOUGHT

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