Into the future, yes. We're unsure about the past.
[QUOTE=Fippe;19113783]We can make [url=http://archunion.com.ua/img/2007/10/s_010_072.jpg]this kind of stuff[/url].
Then you say we can't make [url=http://personal.maths.surrey.ac.uk/st/H.Bruin/image/pyramid.jpg]THIS[/url] out of stone. What.
:downs:[/QUOTE]
Ha, :downs:.
Sky scrapers are different, we're talking about solid stone being hand carved to be perfect in every way, if you looked at it when it was first done it'd look like a god like build. The sand eroded it over the years, but even today the interior is mostly intake and practically perfectly formed.
Is this the second or the third thread bitching about how far away other galaxes is within the last week? We don't know if there will ever be such a think as warp drives or hyperdrives or subspace, but if there is then that's the solution.
[QUOTE=Saxon;19111112]I don't think there is anything special about Stonehenge in how it was constructed.
I remember seeing a guy a while back that was building a replica of it in his backyard by him self with techniques that where possible back in the time of the originals construction. With enough determination anything is possible.
I think aliens have been coming and going for a while now and the governments of earth know about it.[/QUOTE]
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Found from some dead body's office room
[sp]Jk it's my first Adobe Illustrator try[/sp]
You would think that any species with the technological prowess to travel the (probable) thousands of light years to Earth would also have the technology to cloak themselves from our relatively primitive methods of detection.
[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19115566]Are you kidding? The mathematics behind what I was saying.[/QUOTE]
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I've only read the first page, but I was curious about this.. I thought travel at the speed of light was just highly unlikely, not proven without a doubt to be impossible. Would someone mind clearing this up for me?
[QUOTE=Theo213;19117121]I've only read the first page, but I was curious about this.. I thought travel at the speed of light was just highly unlikely, not proven without a doubt to be impossible. Would someone mind clearing this up for me?[/QUOTE]
i assume you mean wormholes.
the simplest way i can put it is, think of an ant (us) crawling on a plank or some flat, wood object (space). naturally, it'd take a long time for the ant to crawl to the other side of the piece of wood, especially if it's big. wormholes are essentially holes in space (wood) that can make ants reach the other side of the piece of wood while saving time.
[QUOTE=SlicedBread;19110350]Something I wrote.
A large amount of people believe that aliens can, and have visited the earth. Some more extreme people even believe they made the pyramids, and helped evolution. These people have proof such as crop circles, (although the first crop circles were admitted as hoaxes by the creators, they even said the method they used to create the patterns) and sightings of UFO's, the aliens space ships. Now, lets say this is true. They are clearly very advance, to travel a good distance, and have complex ships. But, where did they come from? How long was the trip?
We know for certain that there is no [B]intelligent[/B] life in the milky way system, besides us. So they can't be our cosmic next-door neighbors. So, wheres the closest they could possibly be? Let's be optimistic, and sey they are somewhere in the closest galaxy, the Andromeda galaxy. (even though this is very unlikely.)
How far away is it? 2,500,000 Light years. That's alot. We know for a fact nothing, except light, can go at or over the speed of light. So let's be optimistic and say they went just under the speed of light, by a tiny smidge. Of course, then it would take [B]over[/B] 2,500,000 years. That's also alot. Two and a half million years. Keep in mind, about four thousand years ago, we had no civilizations.
In 2,500,000 years, you'd think they would die, run out of energy or other essentials, or have ship problems, or something
So, do you think aliens flew in a ship for 2,500,000 years? Longer then humans have really been on the earth? Keep this in mind as well. There is a really slim chance that they do live in the closest galaxy. So it could be more like 200,500,000 years!
EDIT: Wanted to say that I personally think that there is definitely, somewhere some other intelligent life housing planet.
EDIT: If there was a wormhole anywhere remotely near us, we would know about it, so that rule that out.
And by near, I mean 3,000,000 light years.
What do you guys think about what I just said?[/QUOTE]
Wow why do you assume that in order to be intelligent you have to be organic and humanoid/animal, Bacteria, viruses, fuck there could even be shit underground, we don't know for certain there is no sentient and intelligent life in this galaxy.
You do realize that they most likely can theorectically warp space-time around themselves with the right amount of energy, making "light years" into fractions of a millisecond?
Wow, 100 boxes? Holy shit.
Was the point of this to try and disprove Scientology?
Because they did that themselves. Besides, the Milky Way is quite large. The possibility of intelligent life is pretty damn huge, while most species might not be as developed or perhaps became long extinct.
I hope before my death I can get at least a glimpse of another world or alien. I doubt that will happen, but one can only hope.
In a couple of years, we will find that data on Mars, and it will lead us to discover the mass relays.
Playing Mass Effect again :)
[QUOTE=Detective P;19115604]I understand that. I'm not saying that our math is wrong, I'm saying that there may be ways to get around some of our limitations proposed by our [i]not-definitive prove[/i] theories , or that it may be incorrect. One always equals one, yes, but for right now our theories could very well not add up as we discover more over time. That's why they're theories- they have supporting evidence, but are not yet fully proven, such as many thousands of theories before them. Simply because 1=1 does not mean that others have not discovered other ways to use the idea of 1=1 that we haven't thought of or that they haven't also discovered things we haven't, and have used them.
I don't think you understand what I've been saying- I'm not suggesting that 1=1 is wrong, I'm simply saying that we cannot definitively say that our current theories are right. I'm not saying those are wrong either. I'm saying that they may know more than us, and have developed more technologically and have a better overall understanding than us and can use that to their advantage in doing things that we may not yet understand or that seem to contradict our current theories.[/QUOTE]
How can you even say that? What is the most advanced math you have gone through. All math is based on the simplest equation. 1=1
1x+2=5
2x+4y=12
Algebra, made during the European dark ages (not in Europe however)
Granted math varies greatly from geometry to trigonometry to calculus. The basic principle remains that if you don't have an extensive knowledge of the subject, you might not want to talk about it as if its whole basis could be debunked depending on the time-span. Although it is a logical deduction, it is not accurate.
[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19118437]How can you even say that? What is the most advanced math you have gone through. All math is based on the simplest equation. 1=1
1x+2=5
2x+4y=12
Algebra, made during the European dark ages (not in Europe however)
Granted math varies greatly from geometry to trigonometry to calculus. The basic principle remains that if you don't have an extensive knowledge of the subject, you might not want to talk about it as if its whole basis could be debunked depending on the time-span. Although it is a logical deduction, it is not accurate.[/QUOTE]
You still don't understand, I'm not even arguing with you, I'm confirming everyhting you've said concerning science and math, except I'm simply stating that we will improve and learn more technologically, scientifically, and mathematically as time progresses, which has always been true and always will be.
Well maybe we're just dumb and there are aliens on every other planet but they use cloaking devices so we don't see them huh
[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19118437]How can you even say that? What is the most advanced math you have gone through. All math is based on the simplest equation. 1=1
1x+2=5
2x+4y=12
Algebra, made during the European dark ages (not in Europe however)
Granted math varies greatly from geometry to trigonometry to calculus. The basic principle remains that if you don't have an extensive knowledge of the subject, you might not want to talk about it as if its whole basis could be debunked depending on the time-span. Although it is a logical deduction, it is not accurate.[/QUOTE]
Wait, do you think I've been talking about mathematical theories this whole time? Because I haven't, I've been talking scientific theories. Of course we aren't going to disprove our mathematical theories, those are more or less proven, yes. While we may add to them every now and again or find new ways to apply them or new formulas for whathaveyou, like some really complicated formula for some particle in physics or involved in rocket science, mathematical formulas always remain constant.
[QUOTE=SlicedBread;19110350]
We know for certain that there is no [B]intelligent[/B] life in the milky way system, besides us. [/QUOTE]
Stopped reading here because i know the rest of this thread will be just as idiotic.
Don't fogot that light years to be taken into account.
What you are viewing in the sky may have happened thousands of years ago.
Anything could have happened at their present time.
And the alien life we will see in our lifetime will most likely be mico-cells. If we are luckly.
I read somewhere that life happens wherever possible. Meaning that if there are other planets in the universe capable of sustaining life, they probably already are.
I don't think that aliens have visited earth solely based on the fact that there's no proof of them ever visiting, and I doubt we'd be very important to them anyway.
That's the worst part about the 20th century. We're just getting out of discovering our own planet and just getting into discovering others.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;19110946]What if We're just someone's The Sims game?![/QUOTE]
atohteh, fleny fleny!
*Pisses himself*
[QUOTE=The_Lizard_Xing;19122319]Don't fogot that light years to be taken into account.
What you are viewing in the sky may have happened thousands of years ago.
Anything could have happened at their present time.
And the alien life we will see in our lifetime will most likely be mico-cells. If we are luckly.[/QUOTE]
Whose to say there arent hundreds, thousands, or even millions of advanced civilizations in the Milky Way and they either dont give a shit about us or they are visiting but only to see whats going on.
If we look at the hundreds or thousands option then perhaps they would be interested in an upcoming space faring civilization, I mean this would deal with them and could pose a threat.
If we look at the Millions option then they wouldnt be interested at all, plus for all we know there could be a huge inter galactic conversation going on right now and we just cant hear it. The Earth is a giant beacon of radio signals but once you get beyond a certain point, somewhere outside our solar system, it mixes in with the rest of the cosmos and cant be detected.
Many skeptics to aliens say why would they visit us, well if there are hundreds or thousands of Aliens species put ourselves in their place. We just get the technology to travel lightyears and see the galaxy for what it really is, you think we're just gonna sit here and do nothing? Obviously this is not the case and humans will go and check out all the life out there so whose to say aliens arent doing that to us and other civilizations?
How do you know that they don't have the technology to go over the speed of light?
Nothing says that their technology has to resemble ours in any way.. They might have superduperultra ships of doom that travels through the universe at 500000x the speed of light for all we know.
Well if there is other life, how do you know if they can travel through space and/or time? they're probably alot more smarter than us! if there is other life they might have been in space for million's or billion's of years and probably would have perfected there travel ways and such things.
just sayin'
[QUOTE=Danney;19122437]How do you know that they don't have the technology to go over the speed of light?
Nothing says that their technology has to resemble ours in any way.. They might have superduperultra ships of doom that travels through the universe at 500000x the speed of light for all we know.[/QUOTE]
First off you cannot go faster than the speed of light, second technology has to advance just like anything else. Whether or not their technology is like ours in anyway is still debatable.
[QUOTE=Mryamanami;19122490]Well if there is other life, how do you know if they can travel through space and/or time? they're probably alot more smarter than us! if there is other life they might have been in space for million's or billion's of years and probably would have perfected there travel ways and such things.
just sayin'[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SlicedBread;19110350][b]We know for certain that there is no intelligent life in the milky way system,[/b] besides us. So they can't be our cosmic next-door neighbors. So, wheres the closest they could possibly be? Let's be optimistic, and sey they are somewhere in the closest galaxy, the Andromeda galaxy. (even though this is very unlikely.)[/QUOTE]
Uh, do we? We barely know for sure whether the moon and Mars have water (and thus probably life) on them or not.
Aliens didn't help build pyramids, it's just humans traveled back in time and did that.
[QUOTE=Agent_Wesker;19110606]This is how.
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[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Wormholextreme.jpg/250px-Wormholextreme.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Cheap ass stargate rip off, made in the television show stargate, by an alien.
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