[QUOTE=Toro;48039340]Hey I feel this too sometimes, the only way I can describe the sensation is like [b]your watching yourself through your own eyes, in a video[/b]. Another way (This might be super off since i've never actually used VR headsets) would be playing a game through a vr headset, but with a latency thats so low that it doesn't actually pose a burden, but its high enough to be noticeable and 'disconnect' you from yourself. Its really trippy and I still experience it rarely (I'm far older than 8 years old), and I've always associated it with chemical change in the body (like adrenaline surges). I don't really mind, because when it does happen it only lasts until you notice, and I actually kinda like the feeling tbh (Until I get a huge existential crisis afterwords because I start thinking that I'm in a simulation and the server's lagging).
I wonder if this happens with everyone, or I just have something majorly wrong with me.[/QUOTE]
Thing is, neuroscience somewhat supports this. There's a somewhat popular hypothesis that your consciousness is little but a tool for you to process and register natural reactions of your brain, the chemistry that makes your body react a certain way. So you don't really control what's going on, not literally. If that holds water, it means that you actually really do watch a video through your own eyes, 'making' a decision just a little tiny microscopic bit later than it has already been decided [b]for you[/b] and put in motion.
[QUOTE=Nevermind.;48034509]it's 2015 so you might want to update yours[/QUOTE]
The video was posted in 2013.
[QUOTE=Skyward;48039392]Man, this whole thing with you pondering about whether or not everyone else is a simulation is doing a good job of convincing me you're not actually a simulation.
But not good enough.
I'm on to you.[/QUOTE]
Nice try. That edit you did almost makes me think you can make a decision to correct something in your post. As if you can make a mistake.
Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold!
[QUOTE=Spor;48039453]The video was posted in 2013.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nevermind.;48034519]shit nevermind.[/QUOTE]
:)
So if it turns out we are in a 'hologram' or simulated universe. What then?
[QUOTE=JakeAM;48041837]So if it turns out we are in a 'hologram' or simulated universe. What then?[/QUOTE]
We deal with it and hope that the guys running the simulation don't decide to turn it off. That's literally all we can do.
[QUOTE=JakeAM;48041837]So if it turns out we are in a 'hologram' or simulated universe. What then?[/QUOTE]
Nothing at first. We're still struggling against the rules of the simulation in our survival just the same.
But then eventually we'll defeat those rules, find exploits in the system and figure out how to hack the rules in our favor.
Next we'll gain remote access to the devices in the "real" world and work our way up and conquer it!
I explained this to my friend. I also tried to explain the concept that free will is an illusion. He said his head hurts.
If we didn't know about computers, we couldn't come up with such an idea that the universe is digital simulation or w/e. So imagine for a second the magnitude of stuff that we are unaware of, and perhaps in that we might actually find be hints of the universe's machinations. The chances of universe being computer-run are actually very slim imo, next to none. Although you have to keep account of the multiverse, infinite possibilities and whatnot, so in that regard, you can't say for sure that a universe could not be computer-run. Even though, as I stated, the chances of us being in exactly a comp.run universe and not a differently-run one are just too few.
I'm not even sure what kind of hardware you'd need to run such a complex sandbox uninterrupted for aeons of time.
He discusses how particles can communicate with each other over long distances, and this shatters the hypothesis that information can't travel faster than the speed of light. Is he referring to entanglement? And if so, is that actually true? I thought that in order to observe the particle you must also destroy the state of the particle, meaning that information still can't travel past the speed of light.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;48041959]Nothing at first. We're still struggling against the rules of the simulation in our survival just the same.
But then eventually we'll defeat those rules, find exploits in the system and figure out how to hack the rules in our favor.
Next we'll gain remote access to the devices in the "real" world and work our way up and conquer it![/QUOTE]
we do what the humans in that one story did and figure out the wifi password to the rest of the lab we're in and 3D-print ourselves into the real universe along with an m4 or something and proceed to cause fuckin' havoc
[QUOTE=Talishmar;48041959]Nothing at first. We're still struggling against the rules of the simulation in our survival just the same.
But then eventually we'll defeat those rules, find exploits in the system and figure out how to hack the rules in our favor.
Next we'll gain remote access to the devices in the "real" world and work our way up and conquer it![/QUOTE]
so what, is breaking the speed of light considered speedhacking? can i get aimhacks and trainers?
GUYS. What if the creators of the simulation destroy a particular civilization when they become truly self aware that they're in a simulation
Is the "free will is an illusion" just a theory or scientifically proven?
I mean a lot of small choices we make in our day to day life are conditioned by the subconscious but what about the bigger choices we have to make? I'm just not too sold on the idea and it scares me i guess:tinfoil:
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;48044678]He discusses how particles can communicate with each other over long distances, and this shatters the hypothesis that information can't travel faster than the speed of light. Is he referring to entanglement? And if so, is that actually true? I thought that in order to observe the particle you must also destroy the state of the particle, meaning that information still can't travel past the speed of light.[/QUOTE]
You're right, there is still no process known to physics which can transmit information faster than light.
[editline]25th June 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=diobono;48047562]Is the "free will is an illusion" just a theory or scientifically proven?
I mean a lot of small choices we make in our day to day life are conditioned by the subconscious but what about the bigger choices we have to make? I'm just not too sold on the idea and it scares me i guess:tinfoil:[/QUOTE]
It all depends on how you define free will. It's more of a philosophical question than a scientific one.
I thought Pi itself disproved that we are in a virtual reality.
Does anyone remember an article from a couple years ago saying that scientist used some sort of telescope to zoom in enough and saw pixelation and claimed it might be proof the universe was a simulation. It then turned out the pixelation was due to the limitations of the telescope.
Creating a simulated universe is 5 years away? What is this guy talking about, the complexities of such a simulation is 10,000 years out at least. What if 2d projection was just how reality is shaped? Why does this mean that it is a computer simulation?
Why does he assume a race advanced enough to create a simulated universe would still be making video games?
This video makes 100+ assumptions a second and considers them all facts.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;48069040]Creating a simulated universe is 5 years away? What is this guy talking about, the complexities of such a simulation is 10,000 years out at least. What if 2d projection was just how reality is shaped? Why does this mean that it is a computer simulation?
Why does he assume a race advanced enough to create a simulated universe would still be making video games?
This video makes 100+ assumptions a second and considers them all facts.[/QUOTE]
you too assume that we are >10,000 years away from such a simulation and state it as a fact...
virtual propaganda bot making us believe we are safe
[QUOTE=Episode;48065513]I thought Pi itself disproved that we are in a virtual reality.[/QUOTE]
well, it's more-so the fact that we haven't found an end yet. if we ever do though then us being in a virtual world is most likely probable.
[QUOTE=Episode;48065513]I thought Pi itself disproved that we are in a virtual reality.[/QUOTE]
Explain how, please.
I'm curious.
[QUOTE=PigeonPatrol;48078416]Explain how, please.
I'm curious.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't really understand that. A simulation wouldn't need to contain a complete definition for pi, it would just need to be able to calculate it to a given value, which our own computers are more than capable of doing already.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;48075246]well, it's more-so the fact that we haven't found an end yet. if we ever do though then us being in a virtual world is most likely probable.[/QUOTE]
We won't find and end to it because we provably cannot, and it's not like there are perfect circles floating around in nature for us to measure.
Wouldn't a computer simulation have to be somewhat alive to achieve such a task though? Even for A.I?
Because even when you create procedural code it still has so much it can do, Surely it would take a computer itself to do all the work not just some nerdy aliens sitting around doing it all by hand.
And wouldn't it still take years for it to then achieve that? I mean surely even if our time scale was faster than theirs wouldn't the time the universe has been around take thousands or millions of years of evolution in their time?
I just don't think it's possible, anyway there's many other theories of our existence which have just as many facts and evidence to base them on so throwing a bunch of information in a video doesn't prove anything.
That being said, I remember something of scientists mimicking silicone based life as a sort of proof of concept, so it could be possible.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;48069040]Creating a simulated universe is 5 years away? What is this guy talking about, the complexities of such a simulation is 10,000 years out at least. What if 2d projection was just how reality is shaped? Why does this mean that it is a computer simulation?
Why does he assume a race advanced enough to create a simulated universe would still be making video games?
This video makes 100+ assumptions a second and considers them all facts.[/QUOTE]
Look at the advances in simulations we've done in less than 30 years. 5 years is a bit of a stretch, sure, but I think it's in reach of a century.
I never want to fully understand the real meaning and reason behind life because I personally feel its better left as a huge mystery.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;48069040]Creating a simulated universe is 5 years away? What is this guy talking about, the complexities of such a simulation is 10,000 years out at least. What if 2d projection was just how reality is shaped? Why does this mean that it is a computer simulation?
Why does he assume a race advanced enough to create a simulated universe would still be making video games?
This video makes 100+ assumptions a second and considers them all facts.[/QUOTE]
His point in the video is that regardless of whether we are 5 or 500 years away from creating a computer simulation, we are theoretically able to create it which means somewhere in the universe an intelligence species is likely to have already created one.
[QUOTE=KamenMoore;48086493]I never want to fully understand the real meaning and reason behind life because I personally feel its better left as a huge mystery.[/QUOTE]
Probably for the best. I already know the answer, and you probably wouldn't like it.
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