[QUOTE=Autumn;34443873](why is that funny, seith?)[/QUOTE]
I think funny wasn't exactly on spot here, but if I do try and correlate, then the fact it took you two years to achieve fun is awkward.
took me about 0.035 seconds to start enjoying sex
I think that's the standard male response there
well personally i find a difference between something that is "quite fun, feels nice, but nothing really to write home about" to "yes, this is really bloody enjoyable" quite significant, and the fact that it took me a while (and different partners) to get to that point doesn't make any reflection on me personally.
also i'm pretty sure as a guy you're not quite qualified to judge how a female has perceived sex, as it can be a very different experience for the two sexes.
but you keep trying to tell me that i'm awkward, please :)
maybe you just needed some Seith to spice things up
reach orgasm and enlightenment at the same time!
[QUOTE=Autumn;34443996]well personally i find a difference between something that is "quite fun, feels nice, but nothing really to write home about" to "yes, this is really bloody enjoyable" quite significant, and the fact that it took me a while (and different partners) to get to that point doesn't make any reflection on me personally.
also i'm pretty sure as a guy you're not quite qualified to judge how a female has perceived sex, as it can be a very different experience for the two sexes.
but you keep trying to tell me that i'm awkward, please :)[/QUOTE]
I find this even more funny you took it personally. I never implied it was personal, just awkward, in my eyes..
I took it as in "I am having sex, yes, vaginal penetration. fun. I came, thank you." robotic sort of way. That's why it sounded awkward and funny to me.
how is applying a judgment like that not personal though?
[editline]29th January 2012[/editline]
I think this bit was probably a decent give away
[quote]i never found it particularly uncomfortable, or awkward, or scary,[/quote]
[QUOTE=Contag;34444159]how is applying a judgment like that not personal though?
[editline]29th January 2012[/editline]
I think this bit was probably a decent give away[/QUOTE]
Not sure what you meant by "give away", but I wasn't applying judgement. I stated how I felt about her comment. Also, even if it was judgement (which it wasn't) she could had chosen to look at it differently and not nessecarily in a negative fashion, this suggests something she might have an issue with or is having insecurity issues about.
seith, i'm gonna be honest here; the only thing i have an issue with is you
[editline]29th January 2012[/editline]
and i don't think i'm alone
Awkwardness isn't an objective thing, and there isn't some kind of criteria for fulfilling it.
If it's not awkward for someone, then it's not awkward. Unless you were there (which would be a tad creepy and probably pretty awkward), then you can't say it was awkward without making it a subjective judgment.
The give away is that autumn said it wasn't awkward.
For instance, sometimes I enjoy spending time with people without talking much. Some might say it's an awkward silence, but that's a bullshit judgment, and instead it's something very different.
Do you get what I'm saying?
[QUOTE=Autumn;34444256]seith, i'm gonna be honest here; the only thing i have an issue with is you
[editline]29th January 2012[/editline]
and i don't think i'm alone[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I have noticed . Your sentences are not as vital as they were before. :)
[h2]:)[/h2]
[QUOTE=Contag;34444267]Awkwardness isn't an objective thing, and there isn't some kind of criteria for fulfilling it.
If it's not awkward for someone, then it's not awkward. Unless you were there (which would be a tad creepy and probably pretty awkward), then you can't say it was awkward without making it a subjective judgment.
The give away is that autumn said it wasn't awkward.
For instance, sometimes I enjoy spending time with people without talking much. Some might say it's an awkward silence, but that's a bullshit judgment, and instead it's something very different.
Do you get what I'm saying?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, though that's not relevant. Check post #431 and understand why I think, and if everybody reads it my way, will feel it might be awkward.
This is stupid. The fact my words are twisted to make it sound personal, my semantics are being put to the test constantly, is just their way of saying....
[QUOTE=Seith;34444277]Your sentences are not as vital as they were before. :)[/QUOTE]
aaand that doesn't even make sense. have we regressed?
but anyway, like i said, i don't think you have any right to judge my (previous) feelings on sex and then assume that because i acted defensively regarding what you said, that i must have some insecurities about it.
yes but she already said it wasn't like that!
seith you're making me defend a [B]mod[/B]
what are you doing?!?!
[QUOTE=Contag;34444310]yes but she already said it wasn't like that!
seith you're making me defend a [B]mod[/B]
what are you doing?!?![/QUOTE]
As if the world consists of people who only speak the truth, and nothing but the truth, especially on the internet.
That wasn't my intention, to "judge" and I haven't. I am stating it as I see it, and I see it makes you uncomfortable, so I will stop this unnecessary bullshit.
[editline]29th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Autumn;34444303]aaand that doesn't even make sense. have we regressed?
[/QUOTE]
Maybe to you, to me it does. And yes you have.
Of course it makes sense to you Seith, you speak in broken English. Sometimes it's really hard to understand what you were trying to say.
[QUOTE=Zamped;34446166]Of course it makes sense to you Seith, you speak in broken English. Sometimes it's really hard to understand what you were trying to say.[/QUOTE]
It's so easy to say it's others fault and not our own.
no seith, sometimes you do speak in broken english, which can make it quite difficult for the rest of us to understand.
and that has absolutely nothing to do with us "looking to fault you and not ourselves", you just don't make sense some times.
[QUOTE=Autumn;34446284]no seith, sometimes you do speak in broken english, which can make it quite difficult for the rest of us to understand.
and that has absolutely nothing to do with us "looking to fault you and not ourselves", you just don't make sense some times.[/QUOTE]
Would you say the awkward and the transsexual situations in earlier pages be a good example of that?
Also, I wasn't trying to completely deny the fact I am sometimes misunderstood, but rather emphasize people are just not trying enough. In my eyes, "broken" English would be something like this; "hallo i r not sure what say u why u not understana me". Obviously, my English isn't that bad, so I find it absurd that people constantly say this when evidently they are repeatedly able to comment in context to what I am saying.
i think your posting throughout this entire thread would be a good example.
at least we got you out of that phase where you were using unnecessarily long words and sentences which nobody aside from yourself could understand, but now you're trying to blame your problems with english on us (the readers) rather than yourself (the author)
don't get me wrong (and i say this with complete sincerity), i admire your knowledge of english, especially as i'm guessing your mother tongue is Hebrew (which has vast differences in pretty much every aspect of the language), but don't even begin to imply that it's our fault that we can't understand you when it's not. perhaps your english just isn't quite as good as you think it is.
[QUOTE=Seith;34446327]Would you say the awkward and the transsexual situations in earlier pages be a good example of that?
Also, I wasn't trying to completely deny the fact I am sometimes misunderstood, but rather emphasize people are just not trying enough. In my eyes, "broken" English would be something like this; "hallo i r not sure what say u why u not understana me". Obviously, my English isn't that bad, so I find it absurd that people constantly say this when evidently they are repeatedly able to comment in context to what I am saying.[/QUOTE]
Ignore the whiners your english is fine.
then maybe it's a difference in attitude where we all differ
[QUOTE=Autumn;34446392]i think your posting throughout this entire thread would be a good example.
at least we got you out of that phase where you were using unnecessarily long words and sentences which nobody aside from yourself could understand, but now you're trying to blame your problems with english on us (the readers) rather than yourself (the author)
don't get me wrong (and i say this with complete sincerity), i admire your knowledge of english, especially as i'm guessing your mother tongue is Hebrew (which has vast differences in pretty much every aspect of the language), but don't even begin to imply that it's our fault that we can't understand you when it's not. perhaps your english just isn't quite as good as you think it is.[/QUOTE]
This leads nowhere. I am not blaming your ability to understand, but your ability to stay on topic.
This sounds more like a constant, over-used mantra of yours, a subtle Ad Hominem. You and everybody else could have ignored that, and not take what I am saying out of context as I obviously wasn't here to bash transsexualism (example, to clarify).
This is also not me trying to prove the integrity of my English. I am well aware of it's level, and am always willing to learn more and improve. This me trying to clarify what is so clear to me you guys are trying to do. This "broken English" excuse seems to me more of a personal nature rather than an actual cause for this never ending disagreements.
I will, however, rise above this nonsense, and try to match my wording to a more soothing level. I hear you. I can be unpleasant sometimes, especially when trying to communicate using words.
[QUOTE=Seith;34446516]This leads nowhere. I am not blaming your ability to understand, but your ability to stay on topic.
This sounds more like a constant, over-used mantra of yours, a subtle Ad Hominem. You and everybody else could have ignored that, and not take what I am saying out of context as I obviously wasn't here to bash transsexualism (example, to clarify).
This is also not me trying to prove the integrity of my English. I am well aware of it's level, and am always willing to learn more and improve. This me trying to clarify what is so clear to me you guys are trying to do. This "broken English" excuse seems to me more of a personal nature rather than an actual cause for this never ending disagreements.
I will, however, rise above this nonsense, and try to match my wording to a more soothing level. I hear you. I can be unpleasant sometimes, especially when trying to communicate using words.[/QUOTE]
I think she has some social disorder, she seems to provoke arguments/ disagreements with anything that isnt on par with what she thinks.
Every other page in this thread (or the friendly social advice one too) is people having a go at Seith, I wonder why people get so worked up about nothing.
i'll admit that i do get extra defensive around Seith, because i feel like a lot of his posts can easily be interpreted as nasty/negative/bad things to say. yes, that is my mistake because often, before i even read the content, there's a niggling in the back of my brain that says "uh oh, Seith wrote this, i wonder who he's insulting this time", but it's also clear that i'm not the only one that has picked up on this negative vibe, so i don't think it's only my problem.
Seith, you're not a bad poster, but there are a lot of things you say that can be read in a very different way you intended, and as soon as somebody calls you out on it you go into defence mode saying that we're obviously the ones with all the problems, rather than accepting that had you phrased something a little differently it probably wouldn't have been viewed as it was. whether that's a language thing, culture thing, or (more likely) just a personal thing, it is there and i don't think you should only be pointing the finger of blame at others.
[QUOTE=Godline;34446600]I think she has some social disorder, she seems to provoke arguments/ disagreements with anything that isnt on par with what she thinks.[/QUOTE]
I think people find this fun, and I can relate somewhat. But, this is the internet, so discussing opinions would lead no where. I have removed "ego" from my body months ago, I am consciously trying to avoid such annoyances.
I highly doubt she has a social disorder, but rather is afflicted with the "disease" stated above. We all are.
I enjoy being the Maverick, so I will remain so until I die.
[editline]29th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Autumn;34446717]i'll admit that i do get extra defensive around Seith, because i feel like a lot of his posts can easily be interpreted as nasty/negative/bad things to say. yes, that is my mistake because often, before i even read the content, there's a niggling in the back of my brain that says "uh oh, Seith wrote this, i wonder who he's insulting this time", but it's also clear that i'm not the only one that has picked up on this negative vibe, so i don't think it's only my problem.
Seith, you're not a bad poster, but there are a lot of things you say that can be read in a very different way you intended, and as soon as somebody calls you out on it you go into defence mode saying that we're obviously the ones with all the problems, rather than accepting that had you phrased something a little differently it probably wouldn't have been viewed as it was. whether that's a language thing, culture thing, or (more likely) just a personal thing, it is there and i don't think you should only be pointing the finger of blame at others.[/QUOTE]
Honestly leads to progress. I like that.
Also, I think we've already cleared the subject of me being "defensive". I read and even accepted a few times things you guys mentioned. I have also mentioned the fact I am not blaming the people, but rather the personal nature of things. What I said, and am saying right now, is that the relevance of what you are saying is zero.
When I feel I did something wrong, and even sometimes when I know for sure I didn't, I will "step down". I don't care about empowering myself on the internet.
I think we should move this to somewhere more private, if you wish to comment any further.
[QUOTE=Seith;34446750]I think people find this fun, and I can relate somewhat. But, this is the internet, so discussing opinions would lead no where. I have removed "ego" from my body months ago, I am consciously trying to avoid such annoyances.
I highly doubt she has a social disorder, but rather is afflicted with the "disease" stated above. We all are.
I enjoy being the Maverick, so I will remain so until I die.
[editline]29th January 2012[/editline]
Honestly leads to progress. I like that.
Also, I think we've already cleared the subject of me being "defensive". I read and even accepted a few times things you guys mentioned. I have also mentioned the fact I am not blaming the people, but rather the personal nature of things. What I said, and am saying right now, is that the relevance of what you are saying is zero.
When I feel I did something wrong, and even sometimes when I know for sure I didn't, I will "step down". I don't care about empowering myself on the internet.
I think we should move this to somewhere more private, if you wish to comment any further.[/QUOTE]
You need to stop giving a fuck.
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