[QUOTE=thisispain;36616081]yeah but they have to be pretty desperate or bored to sleep with someone who treats them like, in your words, wheels.[/QUOTE]
But see, you're twisting my words there, you're not understanding what I'm saying and you're trying to find something wrong with it, when in reality, you should be trying to open yourself up to seeing shit from a different perspective.
I meant that their pussy is the wheels. The individual person has their own merit and value as an individual person, clearly. I mean, there's no reason to hang out with someone you don't LIKE. I like all my friends, that's why we hang out. I also like all my bitches, that's why we can hang out and fuck. It's just they have to understand that their pussy isn't made of diamonds and gold and nectar of the gods, it's just a pussy, there's a fucking whole world full of them.
So what I'm saying is the exact opposite of what you just said. What I'm saying is that their value to me CAN'T just be their pussy, because their pussy by itself is only as good as a car with wheels; there are tons of cars with wheels. The value of the girl to me as a person, is how we interact together and whether or not she's fun and understanding and all that other shit.
And the only way we can have fun together and treat eachother like people is if she realizes that her vagina isn't a golden ticket to the world, it's just there, and I can take it or leave it.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616113]But see, you're twisting my words there, you're not understanding what I'm saying and you're trying to find something wrong with it, when in reality, you should be trying to open yourself up to seeing shit from a different perspective.
I meant that their pussy is the wheels. The individual person has their own merit and value as an individual person, clearly. I mean, there's no reason to hang out with someone you don't LIKE. I like all my friends, that's why we hang out. I also like all my bitches, that's why we can hang out and fuck. It's just they have to understand that their pussy isn't made of diamonds and gold and nectar of the gods, it's just a pussy, there's a fucking whole world full of them.
So what I'm saying is the exact opposite of what you just said. What I'm saying is that their value to me CAN'T just be their pussy, because their pussy by itself is only as good as a car with wheels; there are tons of cars with wheels. The value of the girl to me as a person, is how we interact together and whether or not she's fun and understanding and all that other shit.[/QUOTE]
your analogies are fucking terrible and you just sound like a huge dick, stop using them
[quote]when in reality, you should be trying to open yourself up to seeing shit from a different perspective[/quote]
seith 2: electric boogaloo
[quote]I meant that their pussy is the wheels.[/quote]
this analogy is falling apart pretty quickly
you're basically telling me that you're a misogynist on the side and you get laid. sorry to tell you that's nothing new, i think Rush Limbaugh's been married like 20 times by now.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616113]But see, you're twisting my words there, you're not understanding what I'm saying and you're trying to find something wrong with it, when in reality, you should be trying to open yourself up to seeing shit from a different perspective.
I meant that their pussy is the wheels. The individual person has their own merit and value as an individual person, clearly. I mean, there's no reason to hang out with someone you don't LIKE. I like all my friends, that's why we hang out. I also like all my bitches, that's why we can hang out and fuck. It's just they have to understand that their pussy isn't made of diamonds and gold and nectar of the gods, it's just a pussy, there's a fucking whole world full of them.
So what I'm saying is the exact opposite of what you just said. What I'm saying is that their value to me CAN'T just be their pussy, because their pussy by itself is only as good as a car with wheels; there are tons of cars with wheels. The value of the girl to me as a person, is how we interact together and whether or not she's fun and understanding and all that other shit.
And the only way we can have fun together and treat eachother like people is if she realizes that her vagina isn't a golden ticket to the world, it's just there, and I can take it or leave it.[/QUOTE]
what a noble way to look at things
why do you have to refer to women as bitches and pretend you're better than them then lmao
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616143]what a noble way to look at things
why do you have to refer to women as bitches and pretend you're better than them then lmao[/QUOTE]
But that again is where you're assuming shit. I refer to bitches as bitches because they are bitches. I refer to women as people, or by their name, or you know, however you should address a person depending on the current context. And I don't pretend I'm better than anyone, that's what I'm trying to relay. Pretending gets you nowhere, you have to KNOW that you are good enough. If you yourself aren't happy with YOU, then why should anyone else be?
[QUOTE=thisispain;36616140]seith 2: electric boogaloo
this analogy is falling apart pretty quickly
you're basically telling me that you're a misogynist on the side and you get laid. sorry to tell you that's nothing new, i think Rush Limbaugh's been married like 20 times by now.[/QUOTE]
Well I don't know if it's fair to say I'm a misogynist. I like having a strong woman around. Bitches are just there to fuck, but to have a real female perspective who you can actually be intellectual with and have a real conversation with, that's a very important part of learning how to become a man.
You know someone's getting a new asshole when SG&S has 20 new posts in less than an hour.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616182]But that again is where you're assuming shit. I refer to bitches as bitches because they are bitches. I refer to women as people, or by their name, or you know, however you should address a person depending on the current context. And I don't pretend I'm better than anyone, that's what I'm trying to relay. Pretending gets you nowhere, you have to KNOW that you are good enough. If you yourself aren't happy with YOU, then why should anyone else be?[/QUOTE]
sorry i would like to profusely apologize for making assumptions about your sexist ideology of "i'm the best". you don't know shit, you have no metric for determining who the better human being is, you just THINK you're better than them, and insisting that you "know" it doesn't prove anything, so stop using "b-but i KNOW i'm better!" as an excuse for saying stupid shit like this
and what is the difference between a woman and a bitch
[QUOTE=thisispain;36615983]or just DESPERATE[/QUOTE]
Pathetic you think that about yourself.
also still waiting for the explanation of "it only works on girls with self esteem"
[QUOTE=Seith;36616216]Pathetic you think that about yourself.[/QUOTE]
isn't it obvious that i'm not talking about myself?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616214]sorry i would like to profusely apologize for making assumptions about your sexist ideology of "i'm the best". you don't know shit, you have no metric for determining who the better human being is, you just THINK you're better than them, and insisting that you "know" it doesn't prove anything, so stop using "b-but i KNOW i'm better!" as an excuse for saying stupid shit like this
and what is the difference between a woman and a bitch[/QUOTE]
You again misunderstand me. But that's okay, I don't need to explain it to you, you clearly don't want to understand it, or you'd have made a better effort to do so. If you ever change your mind and you actually want to understand things from a different perspective, you're welcome to listen to the wonderful black phillip show, all the episodes are on youtube.
The difference between a woman and a bitch is essentially, a woman is just like any other human, you treat with as much respect as they earn from you. A bitch is just some bitch. Like for instance, today I was fucking this married girl. She's just some bitch, she's going back home to her husband, that's what makes her just some bitch. But my mom, my sister, they're married, and they're faithful, and they're strong, and they do the right thing and casual sex isn't what they're after in life anymore. They've got it figured out.
About the self esteem thing. It's like this. If you just happened to be talking to a girl and you're honest to her and you tell her she looks young and delicious and that you want to be with her, she'll probably have some kind of reaction to it if she has any level of self esteem. And that reaction, if you're capable enough at socializing, and you're able to be interesting enough to talk to, you can turn that reaction into what you want it to be.
uh why do you sleep with them if you don't respect them
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616259]You again misunderstand me. But that's okay, I don't need to explain it to you, you clearly don't want to understand it, or you'd have made a better effort to do so. If you ever change your mind and you actually want to understand things from a different perspective, you're welcome to listen to the wonderful black phillip show, all the episodes are on youtube.
The difference between a woman and a bitch is essentially, a woman is just like any other human, you treat with as much respect as they earn from you. A bitch is just some bitch. Like for instance, today I was fucking this married girl. She's just some bitch, she's going back home to her husband, that's what makes her just some bitch. But my mom, my sister, they're married, and they're faithful, and their strong, and they do the right thing and casual sex isn't what they're after in life anymore. They've got it figured out.
About the self esteem thing. It's like this. If you just happened to be talking to a girl and you're honest to her and you tell her she looks young and delicious and that you want to be with her, she'll probably have some kind of reaction to it if she has any level of self esteem. And that reaction, if you're capable enough at socializing, and you're able to be interesting enough to talk to, you can turn that reaction into what you want it to be.[/QUOTE]
You've gone from the position of sexist to douchebag. Congratulations
[QUOTE=thisispain;36616284]uh why do you sleep with them if you don't respect them[/QUOTE]
Because I realized that life is just a set of experiences, and that I'm a very young man who was previously inexperienced, and I want to be experienced. I don't necessarily need to respect someone to use their body to make myself feel good, that's the difference between your main girl and your side pussy.
My personal happiness is very very important to me, and nothing makes me happier than to have a girl I don't know or who I just met going for my dick. It's indescribable. It's the best feeling in the world to me. I can totally understand if someone else wants something different in life, but I mean, my happiness is important too.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36616284]uh why do you sleep with them if you don't respect them[/QUOTE]
Stupidity and low self-esteem don't mix well, so he's probably too lonely to give it up.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616259]You again misunderstand me. But that's okay, I don't need to explain it to you, you clearly don't want to understand it, or you'd have made a better effort to do so. If you ever change your mind and you actually want to understand things from a different perspective, you're welcome to listen to the wonderful black phillip show, all the episodes are on youtube.
The difference between a woman and a bitch is essentially, a woman is just like any other human, you treat with as much respect as they earn from you. A bitch is just some bitch. Like for instance, today I was fucking this married girl. She's just some bitch, she's going back home to her husband, that's what makes her just some bitch. But my mom, my sister, they're married, and they're faithful, and their strong, and they do the right thing and casual sex isn't what they're after in life anymore. They've got it figured out.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the insight genius i mean what defines a bitch
just saying "this girl is a bitch (because i say so) and this girl isn't" doesn't do anything other than further your reputation as an awful person. a bitch is anyone who has casual sex? doesn't that make you a bitch?
i'm more than happy to understand your idea but you're being a little baby and crying that i refuse to understand your words of wisdom, when in reality you're just terrible at explaining things and writing above a 3rd grade level. maybe if you were capable of forming coherent thoughts and ideas, and answering questions clearly without stupid shit like "a bitch is just a bitch.." i wouldn't have such a hard time understanding
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616317]thanks for the insight genius i mean what defines a bitch
just saying "this girl is a bitch (because i say so) and this girl isn't" doesn't do anything other than further your reputation as an awful person. a bitch is anyone who has casual sex? doesn't that make you a bitch?
i'm more than happy to understand your idea but you're being a little baby and crying that i refuse to understand your words of wisdom, when in reality you're just terrible at explaining things and writing above a 3rd grade level. maybe if you were capable of forming coherent thoughts and ideas, and answering questions clearly without stupid shit like "a bitch is just a bitch.." i wouldn't have such a hard time understanding[/QUOTE]
It's something that's hard to explain in words, but if you'll forgive me, you have to understand that from my perspective, it appears as if everything I type is getting completely twisted and misunderstood and then interpreted entirely incorrectly. So being that that's how I'm feeling, please understand if that's how I react.
But yeah, you're right, that's a good question; What defines a bitch? It's really hard to explain, and you're right, my answer is lame. It's just as lame as the pornography answer. I couldn't really describe a bitch to you, but I certainly know one when I see it.
I completely understand if this isn't a satisfactory answer. Also remember that I'm trying to condense hours and hours and hours of talk radio and my own personal field research over the past few months into just a few words on a forum, so forgive me if I'm not offering the best and most understandable explanations.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616259]About the self esteem thing. It's like this. If you just happened to be talking to a girl and you're honest to her and you tell her she looks young and delicious and that you want to be with her, she'll probably have some kind of reaction to it if she has any level of self esteem. And that reaction, if you're capable enough at socializing, and you're able to be interesting enough to talk to, you can turn that reaction into what you want it to be.[/QUOTE]
how does self esteem factor into someone reacting to you being awkwardly abrupt and saying "you look delicious"? people with low and high self esteem will both react to someone being creepy, i'm not seeing how high self esteem invariably leads to "oh wow really? thanks lets fuck"
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616259]You again misunderstand me. But that's okay, I don't need to explain it to you, you clearly don't want to understand it, or you'd have made a better effort to do so. If you ever change your mind and you actually want to understand things from a different perspective, you're welcome to listen to the wonderful black phillip show, all the episodes are on youtube.
The difference between a woman and a bitch is essentially, a woman is just like any other human, you treat with as much respect as they earn from you. A bitch is just some bitch. Like for instance, today I was fucking this married girl. She's just some bitch, she's going back home to her husband, that's what makes her just some bitch. But my mom, my sister, they're married, and they're faithful, and they're strong, and they do the right thing and casual sex isn't what they're after in life anymore. They've got it figured out.
About the self esteem thing. It's like this. If you just happened to be talking to a girl and you're honest to her and you tell her she looks young and delicious and that you want to be with her, she'll probably have some kind of reaction to it if she has any level of self esteem. And that reaction, if you're capable enough at socializing, and you're able to be interesting enough to talk to, you can turn that reaction into what you want it to be.[/QUOTE]
Id like to pick up on the fact youve listened to a talk show run by a comedian (probably 90% fiction or embelishment to make it more entertaining) and taken it as some form of god given life teaching, and are now preaching it here like it works.... I don't think so.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616353]how does self esteem factor into someone reacting to you being awkwardly abrupt and saying "you look delicious"? people with low and high self esteem will both react to someone being creepy, i'm not seeing how high self esteem invariably leads to "oh wow really? thanks lets fuck"[/QUOTE]
You know that's a straw man argument. Come on man, let's be reasonable here. You know that's not how it goes in real life. You've talked to people before, come on, don't be outlandish.
[QUOTE=metallics;36616358]Id like to pick up on the fact youve listened to a talk show run by a comedian (probably 90% fiction or embelishment to make it more entertaining) and taken it as some form of god given life teaching, and are now preaching it here like it works.... I don't think so.[/QUOTE]
The reason I'm talking about it is because I too thought it was bogus, I too was a weak little girly boy who didn't get pussy, but look, I started trying this stuff in real life a few months ago, and it's gone very very well for me. I'm a lot more fulfilled in life than I used to be. Take it or leave it man, I respect you for being skeptical though.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616360]You know that's a straw man argument. Come on man, let's be reasonable here. You know that's not how it goes in real life. You've talked to people before, come on, don't be outlandish.
The reason I'm talking about it is because I too thought it was bogus, I too was a weak little girly boy who didn't get pussy, but look, I started trying this stuff in real life a few months ago, and it's gone very very well for me. I'm a lot more fulfilled in life than I used to be. Take it or leave it man, I respect you for being skeptical though.[/QUOTE]
"maybe if i say 'strawman' people will stop asking me about this.."
ok.. what about what i said was "strawman"? do you mind just putting everything on the table and fully answering a question with one post instead of making me ask follow ups for 15 minutes just to get you to admit you don't have an answer worth sharing?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616390]"maybe if i say 'strawman' people will stop asking me about this.."
ok.. what about what i said was "strawman"? do you mind just putting everything on the table and fully answering a question with one post instead of making me ask follow ups for 15 minutes just to get you to admit you don't have an answer worth sharing?[/QUOTE]
A straw man argument is where, in an attempt to discredit the argument you're against, you invent a fictional scenario or argument and then discredit that, and then play it as though you've discredited the original argument. Rather than thinking about what I said and then applying it to a realistic scenario, you invented one that was silly and stupid.
The thing about girls is, like I said, they don't have to go out and get us, we go get them. They're already the prey in this scenario, so they're already on the defense. But, if the girl is really attractive, they're used to a lot of guys being intimidated by them, so the fact that someone can be so casual as to just express how he honestly and truly feels catches them off guard. It's not about being weird or creepy, it's about relating to someone on a human level. Rather than auditioning for pussy and acting like you have to put all your best cards on the table up front so that you have a shot or a chance of ascending to the pussy, you just walk in like you already got it, be honest, and treat her like a person.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616415]A straw man argument is where, in an attempt to discredit the argument you're against, you invent a fictional scenario or argument and then discredit that, and then play it as though you've discredited the original argument. Rather than thinking about what I said and then applying it to a realistic scenario, you invented one that was silly and stupid.
The thing about girls is, like I said, they don't have to go out and get us, we go get them. They're already the prey in this scenario, so they're already on the defense. But they're used to a lot of guys being intimidated by them, so the fact that someone can be so casual as to just express how he honestly and truly feels catches them off guard.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the definition of a strawman it really shed some light on how my post in particular was an example of it. wait, no, it didn't do anything other than avoid explaining how my post was strawman.
ok so girls are impressed by guys being confident and expressing how they feel? wow congrats you've discovered [I]confidence[/I]. still missing a few things:
A. wondering how [B]her [/B]self confidence factors into this all (jesus fucking christ)
B. why do you need to call them bitches in order to express confidence
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616434]thanks for the definition of a strawman it really shed some light on how my post in particular was an example of it. wait, no, it didn't do anything other than avoid explaining how my post was strawman.
ok so girls are impressed by guys being confident and expressing how they feel? wow congrats you've discovered [I]confidence[/I]. still missing a few things:
A. wondering how [B]her [/B]self confidence factors into this all (jesus fucking christ)
B. why do you need to call them bitches in order to express confidence[/QUOTE]
Her emotions are just as important as yours, you're both people.
I've already explained several times why B is nonsense. You're assuming too much and actually understanding too little.
And if I need to explain why your post was a straw man, then you clearly don't understand the definition of the term. Please be reasonable with me here man.
I want to point out that I like how, j paul, you're acting like you're this massive alpha male because you prey on women with low self-esteem. That doesn't make you a playboy, it makes you an asshole.
As for you 'TAPPIN HELLA MAD PUSSEH BRO', I think you're overstating your capabilities. There are a lot of shallow women out there, but I'm sure most have SOME manner of standards enough to the point where degrading themselves to the level of yourself is too humiliating for such small output.
Also I bet 200 quid that the 'married bitch' you were having sex with doesn't actually exist.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616455]Self confidence is the biggest factor of all. If you don't like you, who would?[/QUOTE]
omg
i know
how does HER self confidence affect how she reacts to your advances
[editline]4th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616455]And if I need to explain why your post was a straw man, then you clearly don't understand the definition of the term. Please be reasonable with me here man.[/QUOTE]
oh just explain it or shut up about it already
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36616464]I want to point out that I like how, j paul, you're acting like you're this massive alpha male because you prey on women with low self-esteem. That doesn't make you a playboy, it makes you an asshole.
As for you 'TAPPIN HELLA MAD PUSSEH BRO', I think you're overstating your capabilities. There are a lot of shallow women out there, but I'm sure most have SOME manner of standards enough to the point where degrading themselves to the level of yourself is too humiliating for such small output.
Also I bet 200 quid that the 'married bitch' you were having sex with doesn't actually exist.[/QUOTE]
I'm fine with that. Whether or not you believe shit you read on the internet is up to your own discretion.
I'm just trying to open people up to the idea of side pussy. It's great.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616475]omg
i know
how does HER self confidence affect how she reacts to your advances
[editline]4th July 2012[/editline]
oh just explain it or shut up about it already[/QUOTE]
Sorry, your edit came after I posted, so I had to edit my post. And I did explain why your post was a straw man, I said I'm not doing it again. All the posts are there for you to read. If you honestly don't think that's what your post was, explain why it wasn't.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616501]I'm fine with that. Whether or not you believe shit you read on the internet is up to your own discretion.
I'm just trying to open people up to the idea of side pussy. It's great.
Sorry, your edit came after I posted, so I had to edit my post. And I did explain it why your post was a straw man, I said I'm not doing it again. All the posts are there for you to read. If you honestly don't think that's what your post was, explain why it wasn't.[/QUOTE]
no, you didn't explain how my post was strawman. you just said "you invented a scenario that didn't exist" and just went on to define a strawman instead of saying "SEE THIS? THIS WAS STRAWMAN". you're the absolute worst.
you also didn't explain how her self confidence affects how she reacts to you. [url=http://i.imgur.com/nzIkm.png]click here[/url] so i can hammer the point home.
also you never explained how "b is nonsense", all you said was that "bitches are bitches" and even admitted you can't even define what a bitch is. stop posting if you're going to keep being cryptic and evasive
[editline]4th July 2012[/editline]
wait was "Her emotions are just as important as yours, you're both people" supposed to be the explanation for the self confidence thing?? because it makes no sense and doesn't even come close to explaining anything
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616501]
I'm just trying to open people up to the idea of side pussy. It's great.[/QUOTE]
You see, you're flopping between this 'Oh I'm just a hedonist' and 'YO BRO IM AN ALPHA MALE"
choose one, do you have low self-esteem or are you just a giant cunt?
It's one or the other.
You literally have the mentality of a rapist.
Why is he a cunt?
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