[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616524]no, you didn't explain how my post was strawman. you just said "you invented a scenario that didn't exist" and just went on to define a strawman instead of saying "SEE THIS? THIS WAS STRAWMAN". you're the absolute worst.
you also didn't explain how her self confidence affects how she reacts to you. [url=http://i.imgur.com/nzIkm.png]click here[/url] so i can hammer the point home.
also you never explained how "b is nonsense", all you said was that "bitches are bitches" and even admitted you can't even define what a bitch is. stop posting if you're going to keep being cryptic and evasive[/QUOTE]
I explained how B is nonsense. I explained how when you use your words with people, they have to carry with them a certain weight, they must be righteous. You cannot go around willy nilly throwing shit like that out there, because then you'd just be some asshole. Like for instance, if you had a friend who was a freeloader, if you just called him a freeloader all of the time, the word would carry no weight. It might be righteous, but it doesn't mean anything after you use it so much. A weak willed person is a bitch, I would say that defines both male and female bitches. Just some weak willed pussy little faggot, basically. Someone who doesn't hold themselves up and respect themselves and make their own way in life is a bitch. Like girls who just use their sexuality as a golden ticket to get through life the easy way, those girls are bitches - and I use them because it makes me feel good.
Her self confidence is a big issue because bitches with no self confidence are desperate for love and attention, and they immediately see that they won't get that from me. I don't claim to be a nice guy.
The fact that you invented a scenario that didn't exist and then applied it to mine, is the clear cut definition of what a straw man is. I don't know how to explain it any better than that.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36616546]You see, you're flopping between this 'Oh I'm just a hedonist' and 'YO BRO IM AN ALPHA MALE"
choose one, do you have low self-esteem or are you just a giant cunt?
It's one or the other.
You literally have the mentality of a rapist.[/QUOTE]
I guess I'm a cunt, then. That's what a lot of people think of you when you're brutally honest. I completely understand the perspective. I used to think all the dudes who would fuck and leave the girls I know were assholes, and in a way, they're just doing what they're supposed to do. I was just mad at those guys because I had to bear the brunt of it, I was the dude who was in the friend zone and they'd all come running to me to use me as an emotional punching bag for their own happiness, without even considering what makes me happy (pussy).
But now I don't deal with that anymore, because I'm after what makes me happy.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36616524]no, you didn't explain how my post was strawman. you just said "you invented a scenario that didn't exist" and just went on to define a strawman instead of saying "SEE THIS? THIS WAS STRAWMAN". you're the absolute worst.
you also didn't explain how her self confidence affects how she reacts to you. [url=http://i.imgur.com/nzIkm.png]click here[/url] so i can hammer the point home.
also you never explained how "b is nonsense", all you said was that "bitches are bitches" and even admitted you can't even define what a bitch is. stop posting if you're going to keep being cryptic and evasive
[editline]4th July 2012[/editline]
wait was "Her emotions are just as important as yours, you're both people" supposed to be the explanation for the self confidence thing?? because it makes no sense and doesn't even come close to explaining anything[/QUOTE]
From experience, girls with low self-esteem would a lot of the time not react even to direct, honest approaches. So yes, their own self-esteem has something to do with his attempts at taking things forward.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616501]
I'm just trying to open people up to the idea of side pussy. It's great.[/QUOTE]
is your "main girl" open to the idea of "side pussy"?
[editline]4th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Seith;36616605]From experience, girls with low self-esteem would a lot of the time not react even to direct, honest approaches. [/QUOTE]
not all women with low self-esteem are demure. a friend of mine sleeps with douchebags all the time because of her low self-esteem, she takes it as an acknowledgement.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616584]I explained how B is nonsense. I explained how when you use your words with people, they have to carry with them a certain weight, they must be righteous. You cannot go around willy nilly throwing shit like that out there, because then you'd just be some asshole. Like for instance, if you had a friend who was a freeloader, if you just called him a freeloader all of the time, the word would carry no weight. It might be righteous, but it doesn't mean anything after you use it so much. A weak willed person is a bitch, I would say that defines both male and female bitches. Just some weak willed pussy little faggot, basically. Someone who doesn't hold themselves up and respect themselves and make their own way in life is a bitch. Like girls who just use their sexuality as a golden ticket to get through life the easy way, those girls are bitches - and I use them because it makes me feel good.[/quote]
that doesn't at all explain why you need to call someone a bitch to show your confidence but honestly i'm not sure what i'm expecting after this hour long exhibit of cryptic and elusive responses
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616584]Her self confidence is a big issue because bitches with no self confidence are desperate for love and attention, and they immediately see that they won't get that from me. I don't claim to be a nice guy.[/quote]
you could also argue that women with no self confidence will hope that having sex with you will give them that love and attention but then again that would imply bitches are actually complex human beings with relatively unpredictable personalities and thought processes, and that concept is probably too alien for you to understand at this point
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616584]The fact that you invented a scenario that didn't exist and then applied it to mine, is the clear cut definition of what a straw man is. I don't know how to explain it any better than that.[/QUOTE]
maybe by saying "when you said ______, that was a strawman because _______" instead of reminding me the definition of a strawman over and over again. in other words tell me where i invented a scenario that didn't exist, and how it wasn't an accurate portrayal of what you've been saying. hope that isn't too much effort for you.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36616638]is your "main girl" open to the idea of "side pussy"?
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That's the difficult part. It would be a lie to say 'yes' to that question. I'm trying to make it work, though.
Patrice died before he could figure that out so really to be honest I don't know. He had started on the answer, though, his idea was to find a girl who is bisexual who would go out and find other girls to bring into the relationship. From what his wife has said in interviews and stuff, it was apparently working out up till when he had the stroke.
"ooh, 63 new posts!"
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[QUOTE=Seith;36616575]Why is he a cunt?[/QUOTE]
oh you know, besides being cruelly unfaithful, arrogant about it, taking advantage of women with low-self esteem, treating them like objects and generally having the personality of a rapist, he's kinda just an awful person in general.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36616788]oh you know, besides being cruelly unfaithful, arrogant about it, taking advantage of women with low-self esteem, treating them like objects and generally having the personality of a rapist, he's kinda just an awful person in general.[/QUOTE]
Lol, well I don't necessarily disagree with this, those things are certainly true, given a certain perspective, even I can appreciate that.
But from my point of view, this is my life. My happiness is the most important thing in the world to me, because up until recently, I didn't have it. Now that I have it, I realize how much I needed it and how shitty of a person I was when I wasn't happy. And yeah, so some despicable things make me happy. Am I really such a bad guy for being honest about it though?
absolutely
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616814]Am I really such a bad guy for being honest about it though?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
Alright then, I concede, I'm horrible. But I'm happy, and that's what matters to me. It's my life, and my life is very important to me.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616830]Alright then, I concede, I'm horrible. But I'm happy, and that's what matters to me. It's my life, and my life is very important to me.[/QUOTE]
"i get hard whenever i dismember a corpse but its my life dude, it's not bad if I own up to it right?
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616668]That's the difficult part. It would be a lie to say 'yes' to that question. I'm trying to make it work, though.[/QUOTE]
okay so you cheat on your partner
yeah i don't know why anyone would say you're a bad person total mystery
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36616851]"i get hard whenever i dismember a corpse but its my life dude, it's not bad if I own up to it right?[/QUOTE]
Well hey come on now, let's be fair, you're comparing a mountain to a molehill. Being fucked and used by an asshole like me is nowhere near as detrimental to a person as dismembering their dead body.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36616860]okay so you cheat on your partner
yeah i don't know why anyone would say you're a bad person total mystery[/QUOTE]
Well okay, I admit to that. Sure I'm not a nice guy, I'm okay with that now. But what's wrong with getting what I want out of life? That's what every person should be doing.
It'll all just add up like a snowball. Everything does. The only choice is what kind of snow is used.
edit: Also, is it jsut me, or we had this discussion some time before?
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616861]Well hey come on now, let's be fair, you're comparing a mountain to a molehill. Being fucked and used by an asshole like me is nowhere near as detrimental to a person as dismembering their dead body.[/QUOTE]
as ridiculous of a comparison it is, the principal is that yeah, you're still a shitty person even if you admit to doing shitty things
have you ever considered that maybe if you can't be a decent person while still maintaining your own self confidence and happiness, you aren't quite the Norse god you think you know you are? somehow, plenty of people have great sex lives and happy lives in general without being literal misogynists, the fact that you're incapable of that doesn't seem like a good thing
J Paul, please just go. Whatever 'advice' you're trying to give, nobody is interested. You seem like a completely unlikable character, and this is going nowhere
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616861]Well hey come on now, let's be fair, you're comparing a mountain to a molehill. Being fucked and used by an asshole like me is nowhere near as detrimental to a person as dismembering their dead body.[/QUOTE]
You use people and throw them away like rubbish - That is an awful thing to do. As is dismembering people. Mountain and molehill, mate, doesn't matter when both are awful.
Well when or if you ever decide to try and find real companionship, don't be surprised if the 'wheels' run your dick over. Figuratively or literally.
If you choose not to find a meaningful relationship, the world can still rejoice.
We win, either way.:dance:
[QUOTE=Autumn;36616896]J Paul, please just go. Whatever 'advice' you're trying to give, nobody is interested. You seem like a completely unlikable character, and this is going nowhere[/QUOTE]
Now see here everyone, this is a reasonable person. Thank you for being reasonable. This is all I wanted.
Also, I concede. Like I said, I'm clearly not a nice person. I personally don't think I hate women, though, but I admit, maybe I'm wrong about that. If you think so and wish to talk about it further, feel free to hit me up outside of the thread, because I've been politely and reasonably asked to leave the thread and therefore I must oblige.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616861]Well okay, I admit to that. Sure I'm not a nice guy, I'm okay with that now. But what's wrong with getting what I want out of life? That's what every person should be doing.[/QUOTE]
because at the end of your life when you are an old miserable git who can't do anything for himself the only thing you'll have is your memories and the people around you.
if you look back and say "wow i had an amazing life because fuck everyone" you'll be doing it alone, but if you look back and say "wow i had a miserable life because i said fuck everyone" not only will you be alone, you'll probably spend your last days in misery. suit yourself mate, but i want people to be better off because of my actions, not better off because i'm gone.
and of course i naturally hate scum who abuse women for their own sake because my father was scum who abused my mum and left us both for the sake of his own miserable life, soon to be cut short due to lung cancer. neither of us will visit or even miss him when he's gone.
stop listening to what some fat and dead misogynist said and use your own brain
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616974]Now see here everyone, this is a reasonable person. Thank you for being reasonable. This is all I wanted.
Also, I concede. Like I said, I'm clearly not a nice person. I personally don't think I hate women, though, but I admit, maybe I'm wrong about that. If you think so and wish to talk about it further, feel free to hit me up, I've been politely and reasonably asked to leave the thread and therefore I must oblige.[/QUOTE]
You may want to stock up on chloroform.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616830]Alright then, I concede, I'm horrible. But I'm happy, and that's what matters to me. It's my life, and my life is very important to me.[/QUOTE]
"My happiness is all that matters", I believe that is one of the great deadly sins of a relationship; and isn't a very good outlook for life in general. Nothing like adding a bit of poison to your life though I suppose.
I'd hope you don't believe in karma.
it always depresses me when im like OH MAN POSTS
then its just a multipage argument
ugh
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616974]Now see here everyone, this is a reasonable person. Thank you for being reasonable. This is all I wanted.
Also, I concede. Like I said, I'm clearly not a nice person. I personally don't think I hate women, though, but I admit, maybe I'm wrong about that. If you think so and wish to talk about it further, feel free to hit me up outside of the thread,[B] because I've been politely and reasonably asked to leave the thread and therefore I must oblige.[/B][/QUOTE]
Wait is that all it took.
No really.
[QUOTE=Autumn;36610698]because it can look a little silly to have a tall woman with a shorter man, and i think generally speaking it's in males nature to want to be the more dominant partner (in the most basic sense), hence wanting to be the taller one[/QUOTE]
This too.
Please guys, don't ruin this thread now, it was going so well...
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616814]But from my point of view, this is my life. [B]My happiness is the most important thing in the world to me, because up until recently, I didn't have it. Now that I have it, I realize how much I needed it and how shitty of a person I was when I wasn't happy.[/B] And yeah, so some despicable things make me happy. Am I really such a bad guy for being honest about it though?[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't be deriving your happiness or sense of self-worth out of how many 'bitches' you're getting. One day when you grow out of this immature, egocentric and awfully misogynistic mindset you've been indoctrinated into, you're gonna be left feeling pretty fucking unfulfilled and jaded. Every person can offer you something of meaning, and even if it's only casual sex that you're looking for, it's still not healthy or sustainable to falsely dichotomize the entire female population into 'women' and 'bitches', and to think of your interactions with other people or women in the way you're seeing them. Sure it might be more honest or direct than what most people are used to, and it's perfectly acceptable and I'd say even encouraged to operate from a place of confidence and honesty, but what you're suggesting is bound to have some potentially harmful effects on how you perceive and treat the people around you.
And yet, you say everything you've said, but have somehow disillusioned yourself to think you're
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616415]relating to someone on a human level.[/QUOTE]
and
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616415]treating her like a person.[/QUOTE]
But hey, if it's working for you then whatever. Just don't expect the satisfaction or happiness you gain from it to last very long.
I like J Paul, taking fire and all of that while still firmly standing behind what he has to say even though it's being absurdly ridiculed right now.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616861]Well okay, I admit to that. Sure I'm not a nice guy, I'm okay with that now. But what's wrong with getting what I want out of life? That's what every person should be doing.[/QUOTE]
i kind of skipped reading the bulk of this conversation, but you don't have to be a misogynistic ass and treat women like we're in the 1800s to show you're confident. putting yourself in the mindset that you're worth talking to doesn't mean putting everyone else below you.
[QUOTE=J Paul;36616861]
Well okay, I admit to that. Sure I'm not a nice guy, I'm okay with that now. But what's wrong with getting what I want out of life? That's what every person should be doing.[/QUOTE]
It's kinda scary that you don't see what's wrong with that.
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