Well we just managed to de-railed this entire thread so I'll just leave it as it is. But I'm standing by what I said.
[QUOTE=Aegis°;37451814]Well we just managed to de-railed this entire thread so I'll just leave it as it is. [b]But I'm standing by what I said.[/b][/QUOTE]
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you realize you are literally wrong, right?
using "i don't want to derail" is not an excuse for making a factually incorrect statement and then acting pretentious about it.
[QUOTE=Aegis°;37451814]Well we just managed to de-railed this entire thread so I'll just leave it as it is. But I'm standing by what I said.[/QUOTE]
Nice excuse to avoid answering.
I really don't want to delve deeper into this but what I think I should have said is [B]I[/B] think engineering pays modestly. I wasn't trying to back it up with fact anything and it was all truly opinionated. I'm not trying to start fights or anything, but I'm just sick of how engineers are being correlated with making a lot of money. It just not in the spirit of things, in my opinion.
Well, they're being correlated with making a lot of money because they actually do make a lot of money (unless they suck, but even then they can find some job).
so you think that a) the statistics about engineering salaries are completely wrong and should be ignored and b) you're better than everyone else who becomes an engineer just because you "actually enjoy" the field and nobody else does.
enjoy the rest of middle school i guess.
[editline]29th August 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Aegis°;37451908]I really don't want to delve deeper into this but what I think I should have said is [B]I[/B] think engineering pays modestly.[/QUOTE]
i still don't understand this. modestly compared to what? it's the best-paying degree!
[QUOTE=Aegis°;37451795]Yes, I am well aware of the fact that engineering is the highest paid bachelor's degree. What I am saying is it hurts going to class with people who don't genuinely love the field and just taking it because it will make their parents happy/it makes money/it's better than an art major. I'm an Aerospace Engineering student, and I know exactly how much I can get paid and what I do. But I'm here because I love engineering, not because it makes money.[/QUOTE]
"I'm well aware I'm going to be paid by the buttload when I leave but that is soooooo not why I'm doing it"
Anyway why the fuck would you feel hurt if they weren't doing it for the same reasons you were? It's none of your business why they're doing it and to top it off, you can't claim to know why your classmates are doing engineering. How pretentious can you get, trying to make your classmates look worse than you by saying that you don't give a shit about the money and that's all they think about. When it comes to earning a living off the career you chose I can assure you you'll start giving a shit about the money.
The only way that you can say "I'm doing it because I love it, its not about the money" without looking like a twat is if you're doing something like a media degree which requires a lot of effort and pays very little.
why are we talking about this i don't care
because the thread needs to reach its shit quota
let's talk about fucking instead DAMN IT
Sex, Girlfriends and Shit III: What's Your Major?
Yes, we already got it, everybody in this thread is going to make 100k$ a year just because they studied what everybody else is studying.
the fuck's your problem Sei-Th Ree-P0?
[QUOTE=thisispain;37452185]the fuck's your problem Sei-Th Ree-P0?[/QUOTE]
holy shit
this explains everything
Master Luke, Master Luuuuke
[QUOTE=Aegis°;37451908]I really don't want to delve deeper into this but what I think I should have said is [B]I[/B] think engineering pays modestly. I wasn't trying to back it up with fact anything and it was all truly opinionated. I'm not trying to start fights or anything, but I'm just sick of how engineers are being correlated with making a lot of money. It just not in the spirit of things, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
If you are British, you may be confusing "engineers" and engineers.
Unfortunately our title is not protected in Britain so literally any fucking idiot can claim to be an "engineer". For example "refuse collection engineers" also known as binmen. No, they aren't well paid.
On the other hand, Engineering graduate starting salaries are incredible, with plenty of scope for moving up the career ladder, promotion, pay rise etc. and yes, if you stay purely in engineering then you are probably capped around £75,000 pa but bloody hell that's still a salary most people can only dream of. Beyond that it's an easy step to throw in some managerial work in and you can easily be making well into 6 figures.
Oh jeez, yea I just took a shower and reread what I typed. Seriously didn't think through what I was typing to what I really meant. Being tired causes me to be dramatic. What I meant was there are a few individuals who solely study engineering for the prospect of money and it really is all they talk about. It just kinda gets on my nerves. The thing about the modest pay is that you won't make a like an uber millionaire amount, but the pay is great. I guess modest wasn't the best word. Sorry for being dumb. :(
[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;37447049]yeah, most of the comp sci majors i meet at my school either have no real interests and just want something that pays well, or gamers who think that designing a game is the same thing as playing it.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't say i'm a spergy comp sci. I do my work, and i do it well. Then i use what i know to make bare dollah from selling games. And then i have a social life. Don't see why it's so hard to separate for some people.
I would love to go to college for something I actually like, but going for MBA seems so much more viable.
Your reasoning is dumbfounding. You'd like to do something and then you say you can't because it's less viable. So, You'd rather suffer for money, which is suppose to give you "happiness" ? A subject's viability is dependent only on your efforts. I know people who can make a Falafel stand viable.
i thought that too darkenedsky but then i thought "fuck it i'll do concept art because i'd rather be poor and happy than rich and bored" and now i get £30 an hour doing painting jobs and all my scrub friends work in supermarkets and/or are bored doing business degrees they have no interest in
high five for studying arts because you love it!
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Artistic activities i.e. music playing/ making etc imo are meant to be relaxing / enjoyable I could never imagine myself having to support myself or god forbid a family based upon those activities.
Of course if pursuing the activity to such an extent leads to a job (web design commissioned drawings) then so be it, but I know of a hell of alot more people who hold down a "main" job then promote their work on the side / small profit / none than those that purely rely on it as their main source of income.
[QUOTE=Boss;37454709]Artistic activities i.e. music playing/ making etc imo are meant to be relaxing / enjoyable I could never imagine myself having to support myself or god forbid a family based upon those activities.[/QUOTE]
why ever not? the way you've worded it there, makes it sound like you're saying you can't imagine enjoying your job?
[QUOTE=Boss;37454709]Artistic activities i.e. music playing/ making etc imo are meant to be relaxing / enjoyable[/QUOTE]
they're not 'meant' to be anything. fair enough if you think being challenged in a hobby is stressful or shit or whatever but i get tremendous enjoyment in getting a paycheque for doing my hobby - it's the greatest feeling in the world for me. why would i stifle my artistic interests in return for a 9-5 job when i could do my hobby 24/7 and get paid for it. everyone will have different personal views on this issue but when you throw in the word 'mean't you're putting yourself in all kinds of shit
[QUOTE=Yahnich;37454725]yes god forbid someone makes their hobby their job and technically never have to work a day in his life????[/QUOTE]
confucius!
[editline]29th August 2012[/editline]
that's pretty much what i live my life by
I dont think I could ever enjoy something that I rely upon to look after others.
[QUOTE=Boss;37454767]I dont think I could ever enjoy something that I rely upon to look after others.[/QUOTE]
i really can't make sense of that. and it doesn't seem like it'd lead to a particularly happy future for you, if that's really how you feel. why should you not be able to enjoy your job, whatever that job may be?
Well, lets say 10 years from now Ive got a mortgage and a child on the way. Im a painter and sell my work off etc etc etc If sales start to drop how am I meant to contribute to keep my payments on schedule. If I have perused the single most interesting aspect in my life and dedicated my education path towards it, does your job still become interesting now that a burden is upon your success?
[QUOTE=Amerigo;37452151]Sex, Girlfriends and Shit III: What's Your Major?[/QUOTE]
sex, crime and fucked up people (i.e. people)
[QUOTE=Boss;37454843]Well, lets say 10 years from now Ive got a mortgage and a child on the way. Im a painter and sell my work off etc etc etc If sales start to drop how am I meant to contribute to keep my payments on schedule. If I have perused the single most interesting aspect in my life and dedicated my education path towards it, does your job still become interesting now that a burden is upon your success?[/QUOTE]
As if people can keep payments on schedule with their day jobs.... Persuing your life's passion doesn't mean you have to quit your job, but rather make time for the things really important to you while not being enslaved by it. The money has to work for you and not the otherway around.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad....
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