[QUOTE=thisispain;37574752]admitting failure isn't being pathetic, it's being honest seith
i've tried self-help books and even dabbled in so-called "PUA", just out of sheer curiosity for both. it's a waste of time and effort. self-help books just tell you what you want to hear, then blame you for failing, sending you into an even deeper hole because you don't have self-confidence. if you did have self-confidence you wouldn't be reading a self-help book!!
and PUA is just ugggh
maybe it's my mum speaking through me, but i want to make interaction between the sexes a pleasant and open experience for both sides, i think i owe humanity that much at least
all PUA does is dehumanize human interaction to the point of detached concepts and "biotruths". it's in the language, calling it their "game", needing to improve it by "practicing" on people they don't have any interest in, and confining all women into one neat box. worst of all, it's all just designed again to extort people who have problems with self-confidence.
can't i do better? i think i can do better, by not giving these pricks my money or by dehumanizing women. i think everyone here can do better without PUA or self-help books.
how dare you call me a pessimist or a cynic!
you have the exact same problem that maverick had! you blame everyone else for your own perceived insecurities! Maverick called people pathetic and said that he couldn't admit failure, but you know he was miserable right? he said how he could never be with the one woman he truly loved or how he had to overcompensate for his own perceived flaws, just like Tucker Max did.
snap out of it dude!! if you have advice to give speak from your own experience and emotion instead of quoting or saying random shit! do you think we call you a robot for shits and giggles?[/QUOTE]
This is actually the best post I have read all week.
[editline]7th September 2012[/editline]
and sort of the first sensible post I have seen you make but that's not important right now
[QUOTE=Maloof?;37574872]This is actually the best post I have read all week.
[editline]7th September 2012[/editline]
and sort of the first sensible post I have seen you make but that's not important right now[/QUOTE]
don't worry eventually you'll understand my different personalities
and BDA again, i have to say thanks again for that great google doc that i'm still reading through
[quote]You're fresh off an Ayn Rand reading binge and you're on about the laziness of too many Americans. Your ever-evolving political ideologies shift sharply to the Right after reading Rand. [/quote]
DAMN YOU!
[QUOTE=Maloof?;37574872]and sort of the first sensible post I have seen you make but that's not important right now[/QUOTE]
are you new?
thisispain, why are you going off on a rant about about Pickup Advice self-help books, when Seith's original post was in reply to that guy deciding on whether he was mature and ready enough to have a child.
Seith's post:
[QUOTE]It's a relationship, not a dictatorship. Tell her what you think.
Also, I recommend you read Rich Dad, Poor Dad... it will widen your horizons and give you the ability to possibly make better choices, even in that regard.[/QUOTE]
Rich Dad, Poor Dad. As Seith said, it isn't a self-help book. It's a book that gives you a perspective of what life would be like as a young father.
[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;37574897]are you new?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/member.php?u=85374"]I don't think so[/URL]
I think it just happens that by regularly browsing Popular Threads I tend to see thisispain at his worst more often than not
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[QUOTE=loopoo;37574910]thisispain, why are you going off on a rant about about Pickup Advice self-help books, when Seith's original post was in reply to that guy deciding on whether he was mature and ready enough to have a child.
Seith's post:
Rich Dad, Poor Dad. As Seith said, it isn't a self-help book. It's a book that gives you a perspective of what life would be like as a young father.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Dad_Poor_Dad"]Sounds like a self help book to me[/URL]
I feel you deviated a lot from the original argument (when you called out Seith's post, saying not to read self-help books as they're a load of rubbish) and I'm sure if you read back over the posts, you'll see what I mean.
Seith's original post wasn't even about PUA, so I'm not even sure how we came to where we are right now.
given that it doesn't just tell the story; it also emphasises lessons to be learned and provides protocols to follow
Well, shit. I done fucked up. It appears the book is a self-help book. I thought it was just a recollection of a man's journey through fatherhood, retelling how difficult it was when he was young and poor, to how much easier it became when he hit the jackpot and became rich.
I think I'm the one getting confused. Perhaps BDA's post about the letter his dad left him made me come to that conclusion.
BDA your dad is so sweet
i'm getting very emotional now, i've shed a couple of very manly tears
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[QUOTE=loopoo;37574922]I feel you deviated a lot from the original argument (when you called out Seith's post, saying not to read self-help books as they're a load of rubbish) and I'm sure if you read back over the posts, you'll see what I mean.
Seith's original post wasn't even about PUA, so I'm not even sure how we came to where we are right now.[/QUOTE]
he recommends self-help stuff and PUA stuff all the time
i wouldn't have said anything if he didn't call me pathetic, that got me very miffed!
My "angry libertarian" phase is so much dust in the wind, haha.
Dad's a good man, and this letter dug into me in a big way. I cried throughout the whole damn thing, while sitting on my hotel bed waiting to be shipped off to my new life. I saved the pages in a ziplock bag all throughout boot camp, so that I could type them when I got out the other side.
You and your dad are very alike, aren't you?
[QUOTE=thisispain;37574949]BDA your dad is so sweet
i'm getting very emotional now, i've shed a couple of very manly tears
[editline]7th September 2012[/editline]
he recommends self-help stuff and PUA stuff all the time
i wouldn't have said anything if he didn't call me pathetic, that got me very miffed![/QUOTE]
So this is about your ego... I see. I can't believe anything you say when you're driven by it and not actual facts, like, say, read the book? Read any of the books instead of saying what I claim is outrageous? Oh, I'm sorry, you've got a better way? Lay it on me, I am at least willing to listen and learn something new.
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[QUOTE=thisispain;37574752]admitting failure isn't being pathetic, it's being honest seith
i've tried self-help books and even dabbled in so-called "PUA", just out of sheer curiosity for both. it's a waste of time and effort. self-help books just tell you what you want to hear, then blame you for failing, sending you into an even deeper hole because you don't have self-confidence. if you did have self-confidence you wouldn't be reading a self-help book!!
and PUA is just ugggh
maybe it's my mum speaking through me, but i want to make interaction between the sexes a pleasant and open experience for both sides, i think i owe humanity that much at least
all PUA does is dehumanize human interaction to the point of detached concepts and "biotruths". it's in the language, calling it their "game", needing to improve it by "practicing" on people they don't have any interest in, and confining all women into one neat box. worst of all, it's all just designed again to extort people who have problems with self-confidence.
can't i do better? i think i can do better, by not giving these pricks my money or by dehumanizing women. i think everyone here can do better without PUA or self-help books.
how dare you call me a pessimist or a cynic!
you have the exact same problem that maverick had! you blame everyone else for your own perceived insecurities! Maverick called people pathetic and said that he couldn't admit failure, but you know he was miserable right? he said how he could never be with the one woman he truly loved or how he had to overcompensate for his own perceived flaws, just like Tucker Max did.
snap out of it dude!! if you have advice to give speak from your own experience and emotion instead of quoting or saying random shit! do you think we call you a robot for shits and giggles?[/QUOTE]
I see. Good point, that is, that if I read a self-help book then I must be lacking self-confidence... I could say the same, that if you're unable to grasp anything from the so called numerous hundreds of self-help books, then what you lack is an open mind..... Are you afraid someone else might have better answers than you? You seem to have all the answers, yet provide zero evidence on why those specific books I've given are bullshit, in comparison to... Me, where I actually read them and besides personal interest in them, advocate them as I have learned something from them.
Secondly, you go back and back again to this perceived notion you have on what PUAs are or even want. You know shit and I've said it a thousand times; none of these ideas are something I support and far more importantly, you don't have to either. They provide tools of understanding, if I come to women with a premade pickup line I won't get laid. I might improve my chances though, if I follow the advice of people who have approached thousands of women whom might be also able to see different pattern regular people, who don't approach, don't. Pickup, women, [b]people[/b], just like psychology, have patterns, which is exactly what this theory is giving you.... If you want to blame me for being a mysgonist because I enjoy "negging" a woman, then so be it, I am!
Thirdly, I know by now that clichés are the worst tools when it comes to answering advice, so thanks for that insight.
I think people won't really understand PUA until they actually read and try it. Its just the media that makes PUA look bad, and want to emphasize the "true love and be a nice guy" mentality
only the gays read
Fuck books 420
That was weird, breakup went really smoothly, we both agreed and even hugged afterwards.
Please update me. What's PUA?
[url]http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=PUA[/url]
[QUOTE=Seith;37578441][url]http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=PUA[/url][/QUOTE]
Takes much less effort to just tell me, but thanks for arsing yourself to find a google link for me.
Have a winner rating.
[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;37579511]Takes much less effort to just tell me, but thanks for arsing yourself to find a google link for me.
Have a winner rating.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, I am in a bad mood and seem to have misunderstood your post. Have a heart.
So, my boyfriend and i have our 1 year anniversary in about 2 weeks, i'll be staying at his place but i need suggestions on cozy/romantic things to do. Going to the movies is not an opption, since we can never agree on a movie to watch. But other than that, pretty muxh everything goes
[QUOTE=Stonem;37579736]So, my boyfriend and i have our 1 year anniversary in about 2 weeks, i'll be staying at his place but i need suggestions on cozy/romantic things to do. Going to the movies is not an opption, since we can never agree on a movie to watch. But other than that, pretty muxh everything goes[/QUOTE]
cook a nice dinner, some dessert perhaps [sp]and have sex on it[/sp] and then have sex [sp]again[/sp]
[QUOTE=JohanGS;37579811]cook a nice dinner, some dessert perhaps [sp]and have sex on it[/sp] and then have sex [sp]again[/sp][/QUOTE]
There will be loads of sex, theres always loads of sex.
I won't have sex on my dessert though. I would rather eat it.
Is your guy really that immature that he's not willing to give up an hour or two of his time to go and watch a movie that you enjoy and would make you happy? Same goes for you. So movies is still an option, one of you just has to be the better person and do something your other half would enjoy. I mean, it's not exactly the worst. I'm sure when you make your guy happy, it makes you happy.
Other than that, if you're much of a cook, you could have a go at cooking a meal for him, candles and all. Or organizing a picnic (someone made this great suggestion in this thread a few pages back, so props to them), which could be a great day out. Or go out and buy a bunch of board games (Monopoly, Guess Who, Cluedo!, Mouse Trap) and then spend the day with a bunch of sweets, a nice hot cup of hot chocolate and just play games in your pyjamas all day (I guess it's not really the best for an anniversary, but it's good fun).
But since it's your anniversary, I'm sure he'll have something planned for you guys. Perhaps he'll take you out somewhere.
[QUOTE=Stonem;37579736]So, my boyfriend and i have our 1 year anniversary in about 2 weeks, i'll be staying at his place but i need suggestions on cozy/romantic things to do. Going to the movies is not an opption, since we can never agree on a movie to watch. But other than that, pretty muxh everything goes[/QUOTE]
Try something new together? Go do something adventurous that one of you wants to try?
Watch 2 movies, one each of you wants to watch. Compromise!
[editline]7th September 2012[/editline]
I'm trying to be a bit more subtle than a giant advertising board for walking, climbing and the outdoors lately but I don't think it's working.
watch gay niggers from outer space
[QUOTE=loopoo;37579936]Is your guy really that immature that he's not willing to give up an hour or two of his time to go and watch a movie that you enjoy and would make you happy? Same goes for you. So movies is still an option, one of you just has to be the better person and do something your other half would enjoy. I mean, it's not exactly the worst. I'm sure when you make your guy happy, it makes you happy.
Other than that, if you're much of a cook, you could have a go at cooking a meal for him, candles and all. Or organizing a picnic (someone made this great suggestion in this thread a few pages back, so props to them), which could be a great day out. Or go out and buy a bunch of board games (Monopoly, Guess Who, Cluedo!, Mouse Trap) and then spend the day with a bunch of sweets, a nice hot cup of hot chocolate and just play games in your pyjamas all day (I guess it's not really the best for an anniversary, but it's good fun).
But since it's your anniversary, I'm sure he'll have something planned for you guys. Perhaps he'll take you out somewhere.[/QUOTE]
I always give in when it comes to movies. He loooves sci-fi, i don't fancy it too much. But i always let him pick.
A picnic would have been perfect if it wasn't so damn cold in sweden right now. We have planned on cooking up a meal together, lighting some candles and getting a bottle of wine.
Maybe a candle lit bath would be nice?
Candle-lit bath sounds great. Go for it! Try and sort out something so you can have your music playing in the bathroom (something nice and mellow and relaxing). And be sure to buy lots of scented things so it's really amazing. And bubbles!
And you said it yourself, Sweden is real cold right now. So I think the Board Games and Hot Chocolate in Pyjamas would be perfect. Perhaps the day after your anniversary, maybe? Nothing beats being warm and snug and cozy when it's so cold outside.
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Have your meal together with some wine, then wait a bit, perhaps prepare the bath, then afterwards, go have your bath (and be sure to take the bottle of wine with you). It'll be a great time. Just make sure you wait a while before getting in the bath, cause I think eating a meal and then getting in a bath / swimming pool makes you throw up (at least that's what people say).
[QUOTE=loopoo;37580046]Candle-lit bath sounds great. Go for it! Try and sort out something so you can have your music playing in the bathroom (something nice and mellow and relaxing). And be sure to buy lots of scented things so it's really amazing. And bubbles!
And you said it yourself, Sweden is real cold right now. So I think the Board Games and Hot Chocolate in Pyjamas would be perfect. Perhaps the day after your anniversary, maybe? Nothing beats being warm and snug and cozy when it's so cold outside.
[editline]7th September 2012[/editline]
Have your meal together with some wine, then wait a bit, perhaps prepare the bath, then afterwards, go have your bath (and be sure to take the bottle of wine with you). It'll be a great time. Just make sure you wait a while before getting in the bath, cause I think eating a meal and then getting in a bath / swimming pool makes you throw up (at least that's what people say).[/QUOTE]
Both of us aren't the board game kind of people, we'll probably go for the xbox instead.
I was thinking of doing something that would remind him of when we met or got together. How does that sound?
I like loopoo's cozy fantasy, but I think you have it figured out, Stonem.
XBox sounds good, and the reminding him of when you first got together is really sweet and will work like a charm. You'll definitely give him the warm fuzzies.
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