[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;38024287]what are you trying to accomplish by telling someone suicidal that he's pathetic?[/QUOTE]
while it's probably not the best way to say it, the intentions are sound - to help him realize that it's a completely inappropriate reaction
[QUOTE=and;38024317]while it's probably not the best way to say it, the intentions are sound - to help him realize that it's a completely inappropriate reaction to something so everyday[/QUOTE]
Like i said "It was the final nail in the coffin" not entirely the cause of why i did what i did
[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;38024156]regardless of what his situation is, the fact that he's feeling badly enough to actually attempt suicide should speak for itself. maybe there are other causes that he hasn't mentioned in his post[/QUOTE]
Nice.... Not judging him and willing to listen first. You rock :-)
Now, that aside, i doubt that saying get ur shit together or dismissing the lengths he went after suxh a "simple thing " is really the route one should go by when trying to help. Weve all felt helpless, were helpless and somewhat are HELPLESS regardless so taking that in consideration i d advise u guys to.... Shut up.
[QUOTE=MxOAgentJohnson;38024340]Like i said "It was the final nail in the coffin" not entirely the cause of why i did what i did[/QUOTE]
to clarify, it's still an inappropriate reaction to pretty much anything - look, i know shit sucks sometimes (or even a lot of the time) but there are ALWAYS better solutions, and while they may not be so easy, the easy way is very rarely the best choice in the long run.
[QUOTE=Seith;38024384]Nice.... Not judging him and willing to listen first. You rock :-)
Now, that aside, i doubt that saying get ur shit together or dismissing the lengths he went after suxh a "simple thing " is really the route one should go by when trying to help. Weve all felt helpless, were helpless and somewhat are HELPLESS regardless so taking that in consideration i d advise u guys to.... Shut up.[/QUOTE]
thank you this was extremely helpful, i feel like a much more enlightened and worthwhile person now
this means go to the doctor
don't listen to fp'ers go to the doctor, depression is caused by your chemicals in your brain, your overreaction is not your fault
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38023860]If you do realize that you are depressed, then why don't you start solving that problem by asking for help?
And imagine how ridiculous would it sound if you actually succeeded and died because of the girl. You have to think about your family and friends as well.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he didn't ask for help because of douchebags like you who call people pathetic
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;38024413]Maybe he didn't ask for help because of douchebags like you who call people pathetic[/QUOTE]
ironic avatar of the century
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[QUOTE=and;38024317]while it's probably not the best way to say it, the intentions are sound - to help him realize that it's a completely inappropriate reaction to something so everyday[/QUOTE]
Bullshit. You think he doesnt know hanging himself is inappropriate??? Admit you mae a mistake dont sweep it under the carpet, be a man.... This is exactly why ur are judging him - you think you know better so you feel u have the right to decide whether its pathetic or not...
[QUOTE=Seith;38024443]Bullshit. You think he doesnt know hanging himself is inappropriate??? Admit you mae a mistake dont sweep it under the carpet, be a man.... This is exactly why ur are judging him - you think you know better so you feel u have the right to decide whether its pathetic or not...[/QUOTE]
I believe that everyone has the right to make their own decisions; my view on life is that the ability to be sentient, self-aware and make choices is something that is NOT to be messed with. If someone honestly thinks that hanging themselves is appropriate, they can be my fucking guest - it's their life, not mine. But that's not going to stop me from telling them it's not the right way to go, unless they can somehow be totally sure that the rest of their life is going to be nothing but suffering. How, exactly, am I judging anyone?
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;38024413]Maybe he didn't ask for help because of douchebags like you who call people pathetic[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't call him pathetic at all if he asked for some help, but instead he decided just to run away and hide from everyone and try to kill himself without even trying. He didn't even consider his family and friends (which would be devastated I assume) or even if the girl found out that their break up was what made him kill himself.
I may sound like an ass but he needs to stop mourning so much and move on. It may hurt, but time heals everything (eventually).
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38024515]I wouldn't call him pathetic at all if he asked for some help, but instead he decided just to run away and hide from everyone and try to kill himself without even trying. He didn't even consider his family and friends (which would be devastated I assume) or even if the girl found out that their break up was what made him kill himself.
I may sound like an ass but he needs to stop mourning so much and move on. It may hurt, but time heals everything (eventually).[/QUOTE]
You're not being an ass, you're being perfectly logical; unlike 99% of those who off themselves.
[b]shut up[/b]
MxOAgentJohnson tell your parents or guardians that you need serious psychological help
I would just like to state i would be concerned with upsetting my family if my last living family member didnt die 3 years ago.
[QUOTE=and;38024391]to clarify, it's still an inappropriate reaction to pretty much anything - look, i know shit sucks sometimes (or even a lot of the time) but there are ALWAYS better solutions, and while they may not be so easy, the easy way is very rarely the best choice in the long run.
thank you this was extremely helpful, i feel like a much more enlightened and worthwhile person now[/QUOTE]
You are so goddamn pathetic, its pathetic.
Takes balls to "attempt" kill yourself.
Now go get help.
[QUOTE=MxOAgentJohnson;38024575]I would just like to state i would be concerned with upsetting my family if my last living family member didnt die 3 years ago.[/QUOTE]
how old are you?
[QUOTE=thisispain;38024605]how old are you?[/QUOTE]
26, my Father was a single child as was my mother, i never had any siblings, my father died from a heart attack whilst driving and my mother killed herself with alcoholism. Both their parents are dead (I.e my grandparents), there is obviously people further on in the chain but they are completely distant as all of my grandparents were single children (I found it odd myself).
So yea, i am technically the only person alive who matters within the grounds of a usual family.
[QUOTE=Seith;38024594]You are so goddamn pathetic, its pathetic.[/QUOTE]
The only thing that's pathetic here is how pretentious you're being on the internet, and people who decide that killing themselves is a valid solution.
[QUOTE=MxOAgentJohnson;38024636]26, my Father was a single child as was my mother, i never had any siblings, my father died from a heart attack whilst driving and my mother killed herself with alcoholism. Both their parents are dead (I.e my grandparents), there is obviously people further on in the chain but they are completely distant as all of my grandparents were single children (I found it odd myself).
So yea, i am technically the only person alive who matters within the grounds of a usual family.[/QUOTE]
ok, do you have health insurance?
[QUOTE=Boss;38024596]Takes balls to "attempt" kill yourself.
Now go get help.[/QUOTE]
Killing yourself is the easy way out, it takes balls to work through things until you're satisfied with your life again.
[QUOTE=thisispain;38024670]ok, do you have health insurance?[/QUOTE]
Nope, and i live in the uk if anyone was curious.
[QUOTE=and;38024679]Killing yourself is the easy way out, it takes balls to work through things until you're satisfied with your life again.[/QUOTE]
no-one cares, if you want to argue the minutia of suicide take it to PM or steam chat
[QUOTE=and;38024512]I believe that everyone has the right to make their own decisions; my view on life is that the ability to be sentient, self-aware and make choices is something that is NOT to be messed with. If someone honestly thinks that hanging themselves is appropriate, they can be my fucking guest - it's their life, not mine. But that's not going to stop me from telling them it's not the right way to go, unless they can somehow be totally sure that the rest of their life is going to be nothing but suffering. How, exactly, am I judging anyone?[/QUOTE]
ive seen those people that are unaware of their actions on britans got talent but damn you are amazing. If it is his own life why the fuck do you think you know better than the person living his life that u can call his choices pathetic? Have you been in his shoes? An example would be.... Me judging a homeless person for being homless while i cant because i dont know him, where hes been, done.... You have no right to tell others anything. In his case, decide his act was pathetic and that you have a better solution. This is why you are a condensending idiot.
[QUOTE=MxOAgentJohnson;38024691]Nope, and i live in the uk if anyone was curious.[/QUOTE]
listen to me, and listen very carefully. if you really are that close to the edge, i want you to go to your local NHS center and tell the front desk that you almost committed suicide and would like psychological help.
[QUOTE=Seith;38024697]ive seen those people that are unaware of their actions on britans got talent but damn you are amazing. If it is his own life why the fuck do you think you know better than the person living his life that u can call his choices pathetic? Have you been in his shoes? An example would be.... Me judging a homeless person for being homless while i cant because i dont know him, where hes been, done.... You have no right to tell others anything. In his case, decide his act was pathetic and that you have a better solution. This is why you are a condensending idiot.[/QUOTE]
I'm saying that it's silly to kill yourself, and based on how angry you're apparently getting at me, I take it you disagree? So you're saying that killing himself may well be the best choice for him?
[editline]13th October 2012[/editline]
Keep in mind I never called him pathetic myself, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from, this is all I said
[QUOTE=and;38024317][QUOTE=Guy Mannly;38024287]what are you trying to accomplish by telling someone suicidal that he's pathetic?[/QUOTE]
while it's probably not the best way to say it, the intentions are sound - to help him realize that it's a completely inappropriate reaction[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=and;38024639]The only thing that's pathetic here is how pretentious you're being on the internet, and people who decide that killing themselves is a valid solution.[/QUOTE]
Talking about you here, whether his choice was the right one is not something for me to decide especially when i dont know him.... Or listened to his issues, oh well, u know better right? Enough to call him pathetic. The ones that being pretentious is you, when u supposedly give solutions when in reality all uve done is tell him hes wrong and pathetic. Ban me, i hate hypocrits i will not support shit like that. I really dont care about enough him to fix his probelms.... Nor its my job
[QUOTE=Seith;38024756]Talking about you here, whether his choice was the right one is not something for me to decide especially when i dont know him.... Or listened to his issues, oh well, u know better right? Enough to call him pathetic. The ones that being pretentious is you, when u supposedly give solutions when in reality all uve done is tell him hes wrong and pathetic. Ban me, i hate hypocrits i will not support shit like that. I really dont care about enough him to fix his probelms.... Nor its my job[/QUOTE]
Jesus christ I'm trying to ignore your posts but they're just so ignorant and stupid.
[QUOTE=MxOAgentJohnson;38024691]Nope, and i live in the uk if anyone was curious.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't really know much about help in UK, but googling gave me these results. They may help you out.
[url]http://www.papyrus-uk.org/[/url]
[url]http://www.samaritans.org/[/url]
[QUOTE=Seith;38024756]Talking about you here, whether his choice was the right one is not something for me to decide especially when i dont know him.... Or listened to his issues, oh well, u know better right? Enough to call him pathetic. The ones that being pretentious is you, when u supposedly give solutions when in reality all uve done is tell him hes wrong and pathetic. Ban me, i hate hypocrits i will not support shit like that. I really dont care about enough him to fix his probelms.... Nor its my job[/QUOTE]
I still never called him pathetic, but enjoy your ban!
[QU OTE=and;38024639]The only thing that's pathetic here is how pretentious you're being on the internet, and people who decide that killing themselves is a valid solution.[/QUOTE]
Talking about you here, whether his choice was the right one is not something for me to decide especially when i dont know him.... Or listened to his issues, oh well, u know better right? Enough to call him pathetic. The ones that being pretentious is you, when u supposedly give solutions when in reality all uve done is tell him hes wrong and pathetic. Ban me, i hate hypocrits i will not support shit like that. I really dont care about enough him to fix his probelms.... Nor its my job
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[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38024785]Jesus christ I'm trying to ignore your posts but they're just so ignorant and stupid.
I wouldn't really know much about help in UK, but googling gave me these results. They may help you out.
[url]http://www.papyrus-uk.org/[/url]
[url]http://www.samaritans.org/[/url][/QUOTE]
he needs to go to hospital before he ends up in one
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