[QUOTE=thisispain;35284584]you might not think that's bad advice but it is bad advice. sexuality is an important part of a healthy relationship and you won't figure yourself out if you hold back and make up some toff attitude about sex. there's quite an aura of sexism to it as well because he's supposedly 18 yet has had sex with a couple of people. not chastity by any means, yet the standard needs to apply to his "future wife".
is this good advice? what good has sexual reprehension done for people? not to mention non-monogamy has actually saved relationships so this concept of a special bond is completely whack.[/QUOTE]
Why do you people promote such promiscuity?
[QUOTE=gufu;35285068]It's stupid to say "HURR DURR YOU NEED SEX"[/QUOTE]
well thank god i never said that, right?
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[QUOTE=Saq;35285386]Why do you people promote such promiscuity?[/QUOTE]
because there's nothing wrong with it?
[QUOTE=thisispain;35285400]because there's nothing wrong with it?[/QUOTE]
There's also nothing wrong with people living non-promiscuous lives and monogamy.
You didn't answer my question. Would you, please?
[QUOTE=Saq;35285426]There's also nothing wrong with people living non-promiscuous lives and monogamy.
You didn't answer my question. Would you, please?[/QUOTE]
yes but there is something wrong with telling lies and since this is a thread where the goal is mostly to inform and help others, these lies are not helpful and can be damaging.
and i did answer your question, it just wasn't the answer you were looking for.
[QUOTE=Autumn;35278804]and again, i agree with H4yd3n
sex can just be sex. it's physical and that's that. yes, sex is normally far more enjoyable when you have an emotional connection with that person already, but don't be so naive as to think that the more people you sleep with the less sex will ever mean to you
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(and i'm really trying not to sound mean here) but i believe you only think that way because you are a virgin
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and precisely what benefit does this give your future spouse, aside from a greatly inexperienced lover? sounds fab![/QUOTE]
i do not agree i have absolutely no desire to have sex with someone i don't care about
[QUOTE=Rusty100;35285449]i do not agree i have absolutely no desire to have sex with someone i don't care about[/QUOTE]
don't worry rusty the right man will come along
thanks thisispain u know how to make a lady feel better
please slow down with the insults this thread is for friendly advice!
[QUOTE=thisispain;35285447]yes but there is something wrong with telling lies and since this is a thread where the goal is mostly to inform and help others, these lies are not helpful and can be damaging.
and i did answer your question, it just wasn't the answer you were looking for.[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree. Lying is a terrible plague that ruins communities and families.
My mistake; I was expecting a more in depth answer, but I think I already know the answer.
[QUOTE=Saq;35285472]Yes I agree. Lying is a terrible plague that ruins communities and families.
My mistake; I was expecting a more in depth answer, but I think I already know the answer.[/QUOTE]
what is the answer
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35285162]uh gee if thats a problem for you yeah probably
what is the point in asking this? did you expect someone to say "YES IF SHE EATS RAW FISH BAIL IMMEDIATELY"[/QUOTE]
Why do I think he's referencing those 4chan ">realize my girlfriend is a bear" posts...
[QUOTE=Saq;35285472]Yes I agree. Lying is a terrible plague that ruins communities and families.
My mistake; I was expecting a more in depth answer, but I think I already know the answer.[/QUOTE]
plague implies it's something you catch, not something everyone does on a daily basis.
plus your question wasn't in-depth either, "Why do you people promote such promiscuity?" is a really general question.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35285475]what is the answer[/QUOTE]
Satisfaction, procreation, not being tied down. I was expecting something along the lines of that.
well it's just monogamy doesn't work for everyone.
if you're older and in a relationship where one person has zero libido and the other has a huge libido where is the sexual tension going to go besides destroy the relationship? it's gonna end up in someone cheating so either the relationship has to end or the person has to meet their sexual needs consensually.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35285479]plague implies it's something you catch, not something everyone does on a daily basis.
plus your question wasn't in-depth either, "Why do you people promote such promiscuity?" is a really general question.[/QUOTE]
Wrong metaphor then. Apologies.
I could not get more in-depth on that question, but it was based off of the past dozen pages of this thread.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35285499]well it's just monogamy doesn't work for everyone.
if you're older and in a relationship where one person has zero libido and the other has a huge libido where is the sexual tension going to go besides destroy the relationship? it's gonna end up in someone cheating so either the relationship has to end or the person has to meet their sexual needs consensually.[/QUOTE]
Well, it could also end up with a break up at the better situation. I wouldn't say that monogamy DOESN'T work. You just need to find a more fitting partner. Unless of course you could have some kind of agreeable experience with multiple partners.
[QUOTE=gufu;35285674]I wouldn't say that monogamy DOESN'T work. [/QUOTE]
i didn't say that either.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35285499]well it's just monogamy doesn't work for everyone.
if you're older and in a relationship where one person has zero libido and the other has a huge libido where is the sexual tension going to go besides destroy the relationship? it's gonna end up in someone cheating so either the relationship has to end or the person has to meet their sexual needs consensually.[/QUOTE]
And i wouldn't worry about being cheated on if i know that my partner wasn't sleeping around before she met me. Why? Because she could handle not having sex for however long before she met me, but now she's with someone she loves so i know for fact she won't cheat on me and it doesn't even cross my mind. Just like she won't have to worry about me, because i'm restraining myself now, to prove that i can restrain myself then.
You on the other hand, would worry since your girls don't have to pass any sort of qualifications.
No body gives two shits if you fuck everything that comes you're way. If that's what you're after, then i'm glad for you. This whole "Debate", though this barely fits that category- more like a bunch of kids being mean to a substitute teacher, wasn't putting down people for having sex as they please.
It was to say, though it's an old way to view love and romance, waiting is nothing to be ashamed of. And how could you say anything against it unless you've tried waiting?
No 1 sex life style is going to fit everyone. That's for damned sure. But that doesn't make you gay, or a pussy for not wanting to sleep around before meeting someone you love. And if you need multiple partners to develop skill, well i guess thats the same as special ed for sex.
But i'd much prefer to reveal myself on that level to someone i love and trust.
(Notice how i say [I]i'd[/I] much rather than everyone should)
[QUOTE=pakadots;35285757]And i wouldn't worry about being cheated on if i know that my partner wasn't sleeping around before she met me. Why? Because she could handle not having sex for however long before she met me, but now she's with someone she loves so i know for fact she won't cheat on me and it doesn't even cross my mind. Just like she won't have to worry about me, because i'm restraining myself now, to prove that i can restrain myself then.[/QUOTE]
cheating doesn't happen because someone slept around when they were younger. cheating either happens when sexual needs can't be met or dealt with in an appropriate matter or when someone is upset at the state of the relationship and starts acting destructive. you're totally in-the-clouds when it comes to cheating, have you even been cheated on before?
[QUOTE=pakadots;35285757]You on the other hand, would worry since your girls don't have to pass any sort of qualifications. [/QUOTE]
if we were in a bar i swear to god...
[QUOTE=pakadots;35285757]wasn't putting down people for having sex as they please. [/QUOTE]
saying that someone is more valuable as a person if they don't sleep with a lot of people doesn't count as putting down?
[QUOTE=pakadots;35285757]It was to say, though it's an old way to view love and romance, waiting is nothing to be ashamed of. And how could you say anything against it unless you've tried waiting? [/QUOTE]
it's not an old way to view love and romance, sorry to burst your bubble but people have been fucking like rabbits since the dawn of man.
[QUOTE=pakadots;35285757]And if you need multiple partners to develop skill, well i guess thats the same as special ed for sex. [/QUOTE]
lol can you even read my posts from the top of that throne?
[QUOTE=thisispain;35285842]cheating doesn't happen because someone slept around when they were younger. cheating either happens when sexual needs can't be met or dealt with in an appropriate matter or when someone is upset at the state of the relationship and starts acting destructive. you're totally in-the-clouds when it comes to cheating, have you even been cheated on before?[/quote]
no
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if we were in a bar i swear to god...
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shivering
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saying that someone is more valuable as a person if they don't sleep with a lot of people doesn't count as putting down?[/quote]
thats not what i said.
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it's not an old way to view love and romance, sorry to burst your bubble but people have been fucking like rabbits since the dawn of man.[/quote]
irrelevant
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lol can you even read my posts from the top of that throne?[/QUOTE]
no
[QUOTE=pakadots;35285757]And i wouldn't worry about being cheated on if i know that my partner wasn't sleeping around before she met me. Why? Because she could handle not having sex for however long before she met me, but now she's with someone she loves so i know for fact she won't cheat on me and it doesn't even cross my mind. Just like she won't have to worry about me, because i'm restraining myself now, to prove that i can restrain myself then.
You on the other hand, would worry since your girls don't have to pass any sort of qualifications.
No body gives two shits if you fuck everything that comes you're way. If that's what you're after, then i'm glad for you. This whole "Debate", though this barely fits that category- more like a bunch of kids being mean to a substitute teacher, wasn't putting down people for having sex as they please.
It was to say, though it's an old way to view love and romance, waiting is nothing to be ashamed of. And how could you say anything against it unless you've tried waiting?
No 1 sex life style is going to fit everyone. That's for damned sure. But that doesn't make you gay, or a pussy for not wanting to sleep around before meeting someone you love. And if you need multiple partners to develop skill, well i guess thats the same as special ed for sex.
But i'd much prefer to reveal myself on that level to someone i love and trust.
(Notice how i say [I]i'd[/I] much rather than everyone should)[/QUOTE]
and thats why u don't have a gf
goodnight
[QUOTE=pakadots;35285757]And i wouldn't worry about being cheated on if i know that my partner wasn't sleeping around before she met me. Why? Because she could handle not having sex for however long before she met me, but now she's with someone she loves so i know for fact she won't cheat on me and it doesn't even cross my mind. Just like she won't have to worry about me, because i'm restraining myself now, to prove that i can restrain myself then.
You on the other hand, would worry since your girls don't have to pass any sort of qualifications.
No body gives two shits if you fuck everything that comes you're way. If that's what you're after, then i'm glad for you. This whole "Debate", though this barely fits that category- more like a bunch of kids being mean to a substitute teacher, wasn't putting down people for having sex as they please.
It was to say, though it's an old way to view love and romance, waiting is nothing to be ashamed of. And how could you say anything against it unless you've tried waiting?
No 1 sex life style is going to fit everyone. That's for damned sure. But that doesn't make you gay, or a pussy for not wanting to sleep around before meeting someone you love. And if you need multiple partners to develop skill, well i guess thats the same as special ed for sex.
But i'd much prefer to reveal myself on that level to someone i love and trust.
(Notice how i say [I]i'd[/I] much rather than everyone should)[/QUOTE]
your posts just scream insecurity
do you seriously need to date a virgin to feel secure in that she won't cheat on you?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;35285966]your posts just scream insecurity
do you seriously need to date a virgin to feel secure in that she won't cheat on you?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pakadots;35285966]It comes down to preference, i would prefer to find a girl with maybe not a perfectly clean track record, but one that isn't like a receipt after a costco trip.
And since that's what i would prefer to find, it's only fair that i be the person that i'm looking for, is looking for. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=pakadots;35285926]thats not what i said.[/QUOTE]
you haven't really said much, you're mostly just rambled and told "the virgins" some stuff about how if they wait they'll be "prized beings".
and you've never been cheated on before so how exactly could you be an expert on it?
and finally, if you can't trust someone who's had multiple sexual partners around other men, it's probably your fault.
also, don't insult my better-half please. you don't know her.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35285998]you haven't really said much, you're mostly just rambled and told "the virgins" some stuff about how if they wait they'll be "prized beings".
and you've never been cheated on before so how exactly could you be an expert on it?
and finally, if you can't trust someone who's had multiple sexual partners around other men, it's probably your fault.
also, don't insult my better-half please. you don't know her.[/QUOTE]
i wont. i apologize, i dont think i even realized i was doing so.
its not that i [I]can't[/I] trust someone whos had an extensive list of partners. its that i'd trust someone that's more picky much more.
[quote]You on the other hand, would worry since your girls don't have to pass any sort of qualifications.[/quote]
fyi they pass all the qualifications, with flying colours...
That line must have really hit some buttons eh?
okay guys if it's just gonna turn into bickering it's probably about time to finish up with this current disagreement...
how's your morning autumn?
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