[QUOTE=sHiBaN;35311792]Trying to be an alpha in a bar is a good way to get a broken nose or to get humiliated.
If you really look into it, being under the radar is a much more attractive way of dealing with the situation. You won't be in the line of fire of other stupid heads trying to out-muscle each other. Be friendly, but don't take insults. Slap back with a funny retort and ignore the bigger guy. Focus on making a connection with the women because that's the core ideal. Let the stupid heads fight over each other like a bunch of homo-erotic muscle guys and you entertain the women.
Imo, that's the true alpha for me and it has always worked out just fine. Learn to neutralize the enemy and you won't even have to move from your seat. For me, it was a really fun psychological activity albeit how stupidly risky it was. Having to deal with gym muscle heads and big bouncers, a scrawny guy like me has no chance. But I let the women do the judging and the "alphas" aren't so much alphas when their friends do not approve of their behavior[/QUOTE]
Well I was thinking of Alpha in more of a personal dealing with women (not going and getting all up in other guys faces unnecessarily, obviously not going to work) but, also a good point haha.
I think for the sake of this discussion some general consensus on which version of Alpha is being used may be necessary.
[QUOTE=Rhenae;35311817]Well I was thinking of Alpha in more of a personal dealing with women (not going and getting all up in other guys faces unnecessarily, obviously not going to work) but, also a good point haha.
I think for the sake of this discussion some general consensus on which version of Alpha is being used may be necessary.[/QUOTE]
Best way to go about it is not even think of those dumb terms. Just enjoy yourself. From my experience, it's far more attractive to be fun, engaging and to be relaxed compared to the try-hard, faker, stupidhead-attitude routine. Tell me who would you rather be hanging out with; the guy who has all the girls laughing and taking pictures of him or the try-hard guy trying to creepily steal a seat in your table?
They're not dumb, they can see right through you. So it's better to just be who you really are
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;35311854]Best way to go about it is not even think of those dumb terms. Just enjoy yourself. From my experience, it's far more attractive to be fun, engaging and to be relaxed compared to the try-hard, faker, stupidhead-attitude routine.
They're not dumb, they can see right through you. So it's better to just be who you really are[/QUOTE]
Although I might say most can't see right through it (sadly), I do agree it is better to be fun, and relaxed.
[QUOTE=MindMuncher;35311625]Just don't get that passionate when you tell your female colleagues. Wouldn't want to burn any bridges.[/QUOTE]
haha we joke about that alot cause people tend to think were in a relationship. one of our friends friend-zoned himself because he thought that we were together. It was fucking halarious
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My name is Falco` I'm a cool guy.
I'm looking for a beautiful girl that is into pale virgin css gamers.
I'm 4'7 so I'm legally a dwarf and balding on the front.
I hate going outside unless it's at night or to LARP.
My skin complexion can be described as white or jesus he's white.
I want a girl who is slim but has nice curves.
I'm also 280 pounds but I look damn good for my weight.
I have a lot of hobbies like css, cs, porn, and doing stuff to porn.
Only sexy ladies please I'm not into anyone who looks like a whale.
hit me up on my esea girls I'm still single. still single.
I also love jesus.
This isn't the TvTropes thread.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35306427]it's based on the idea of the alpha male in animal communities.
what the term alpha means to an individual person is completely up to them and it never matches the actually ethological term.
according to this: [url]http://www.puagame.net/15-alpha-male-characteristics/[/url]
apparently it means acting like a one-sided person who only exists in bad movies.[/QUOTE]
Example: This is how you alpha-text message, as opposed to regular pussy beta texting a girl (according to the above website):
- [B]Make mountains[/B]! Don't be afraid to exaggerate and make a mountain out of an anthill [OR BUGGER UP A COMMON TURN-OF-PHRASE]. Instead of "I just had coffee" say something like "The coffee I just had was like crack in a cup, I'm totally wired!". This is a much more interesting text and provides for the possibility of visualisation (you want to be on her mind, right?).
- [B]Send mixed messages.[/B] Keep it exciting by keeping her on her toes. Backhanded compliments are always a fun way to do this. For example: "you are really fun... when you're not whining :)" [IF YOU DO THIS SHE WILL THINK YOU'RE A PRICK]
- [B]You are busy.[/B] Your time is precious. You are a busy man of high value. If she is acting up then let her know you are busy and don't have time for bullshit.
- [B]Mirroring.[/B] You may not be able to mirror her body language through text messages, but you can mirror her writing style. If she has "!!!" or uses "..." instead of ",", you can mirror that writing style to make a further connection with her. [SO MUCH FOR "BE YOUR OWN MAN"]
Granted, these were the more wanky out of the bunch, but all the others could be slotted under the category "How to interact with other humans" - hardly anything ground-breaking.
So, my girlfriend and I have been dating for roughly seven and a half months now. We began having sex in our third month together, and have done it every few weeks (lack of time and place to do it more often) since. Generally, she does not orgasm, and most of the time I don't either. I have been working on getting her to orgasm first, and a few days ago, I was pretty sure I was going to get her to orgasm. We were having sex, and after a few minutes into it, she just started crying. I'd like to point out that we were in the doggy style position, because that will become relevant later. After comforting her, asking her what was wrong, and telling her that I love her (I really do), she said she didn't know why she was crying. We haven't had this occur before, and she isn't the type to hide things. We went at it again, this time in a different position. We tried with a few, with her being on top and missionary, and she didn't cry, but she also seemed to be enjoying it less. We went back to doggy, and after a few more minutes, and her saying that she was getting close to orgasm, she began to cry again. Again, we stopped, and we had a talk about it, basically comforting her and telling her how much I love her (again, I really do), we stopped. I finished her by fingering, and she didn't cry.
We're not sure why this happened, so I decided to go ahead and post this here. She even encouraged me to post this, since she said she would like an answer to this problem as well. She takes medication for her thyroid. It affects her hormonal levels greatly, and that could have something to do with it. As far as I know, she wasn't sexually abused or exploited, and she doesn't have time to cheat on me (joke, but really I can't see her doing it). She generally spends all her time with me. We both would like to know what happened, and how it can be resolved.
Thanks.
[B]tl;dr Girlfriend cries during sex. Not due to pain or sadness; she doesn't know why either.[/B]
[QUOTE=R3N3GADE;35313429](according to the above website):
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how dare that website misquote and twist Oscar Wilde's words!
It's not commonly known, but bitches love Oscar Wilde quotations.
i must be a mega bitch then because i loved the picture of dorian gray
[QUOTE=Zally13;35313434]So, my girlfriend and I have been dating for roughly seven and a half months now. We began having sex in our third month together, and have done it every few weeks (lack of time and place to do it more often) since. Generally, she does not orgasm, and most of the time I don't either. I have been working on getting her to orgasm first, and a few days ago, I was pretty sure I was going to get her to orgasm. We were having sex, and after a few minutes into it, she just started crying. I'd like to point out that we were in the doggy style position, because that will become relevant later. After comforting her, asking her what was wrong, and telling her that I love her (I really do), she said she didn't know why she was crying. We haven't had this occur before, and she isn't the type to hide things. We went at it again, this time in a different position. We tried with a few, with her being on top and missionary, and she didn't cry, but she also seemed to be enjoying it less. We went back to doggy, and after a few more minutes, and her saying that she was getting close to orgasm, she began to cry again. Again, we stopped, and we had a talk about it, basically comforting her and telling her how much I love her (again, I really do), we stopped. I finished her by fingering, and she didn't cry.
We're not sure why this happened, so I decided to go ahead and post this here. She even encouraged me to post this, since she said she would like an answer to this problem as well. She takes medication for her thyroid. It affects her hormonal levels greatly, and that could have something to do with it. As far as I know, she wasn't sexually abused or exploited, and she doesn't have time to cheat on me (joke, but really I can't see her doing it). She generally spends all her time with me. We both would like to know what happened, and how it can be resolved.
Thanks.
[B]tl;dr Girlfriend cries during sex. Not due to pain or sadness; she doesn't know why either.[/B][/QUOTE]
Could be the hormones, or maybe out of frustration of not being able to get there, or a combination of both. What makes me think it's a combination is the fact that she cried after she got close, but didn't orgasm.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;35313674]Could be the hormones, or maybe out of frustration of not being able to get there, or a combination of both. What makes me think it's a combination is the fact that she cried after she got close, but didn't orgasm.[/QUOTE]
The only reason she didn't orgasm is she started crying and she told me to stop. Not sure. I always finish her anyways.
it's not uncommon.
certain things can cause the endocrine system to pump out hormones and the thyroid gland controls how sensitive a body is to hormones.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35309459][img]http://img.wendmag.com/uploads/2011/10/thom_yorke.jpg[/img]
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nope
they're both unconfident, unambitious, unpassionate, lying, unprincipled, pessimistic, unassertive, not-groomed, aimless, approval-seeking, humourless, procrastinating, non-risk-taking motherfuckers who would definitely read that article.
[editline]26th March 2012[/editline]
it's impossible unless you're a movie character.[/QUOTE]
I am one.
Also, you specifically took examples to prove me wrong so it could fit your world view. So to say such people - "alpha" and "greatest, richest" don't exist is bizarre.
I won't go out of my way to prove you otherwise, it's a waste of time. That realistic, down to earth approach, that makes you feel as if you know it all, is what will also keep you running in place.
[editline]27th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;35311537]Dude, seriously, get off your high horse.
Alpha-male is just that, alpha-male. If you try to make that more complicated than it is, you're really out of it in that PUA stuff. Either you have no idea what the hell you're talking about or you're completely delusional on the subject. Kinda like those people who are new to the whole scene and try to analyze every single "opener" and missing the entire point. :P
Seith, starting to sound really creepy now lol and that's coming from an ex-PUA. There's no arguing that it's all fake man, you can't honestly admit in your heart that you believe it and support it completely
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This is getting tiresome. I need to "get off my high horse" because I believe in my own abilities, and what I apply to my daily life each and every day?
You use a lot of terms from the PU world, but there is actually no relation to the context of my posts. Even if you know a few terms here and there, doesn't give you the right to preach it as if it were true.
I have said it many times before - what I say, comes from my own personal experience. If it's fake in your eyes, then by all means, keep it to yourself. It's insulting that you use your unwillingness to comprehend and arrogance as an excuse to make such absolute statements.
It made me a better person, because I understand there is more to it than openers. When following such a narrow view, it's no wonder why you keep spewing nonsense.
[editline]27th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;35311537]
You'd be better off handing your number to every girl you see. At least your ratio will be higher compared to being a try-hard "pick up artist." You don't need to fake yourself really. Just learn to display your attractive qualities in the best way you can and women will pick up on that positivity. If it takes trying to be a PUA to display positivity, that's your call. I'd suggest you not fake it. Trust me man, been there, done that and a hundred times over. Believe me, it's really not all that. The next morning you wake up from the night before you wonder how you became such a robotic shell of a human being :)[/QUOTE]
What. Where are you getting your information from? The way you portray it sounds exactly as I have said - you didn't even touch the tip of the iceberg when it comes to pickup. This is misleading and it's pissing me off.
I am telling you otherwise, and not only that, the way pickup is being described around here is far from the truth.
[editline]27th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rhenae;35311711]Soo two things here. One, by that second statement you seem to be acting like the only options are Alpha or Wimp who can't talk to women.
As for getting laid, I would say acting Alpha is a good strategy for picking up girls say at a bar, or in situations where they arn't likely to get to know you first before dating.
But if you have to try to it you shouldn't define yourself just by being Alpha. If your trying at it you should be able to relax that trying with a girl friend once you've talked a bit. If you have to always work at being Alpha to stay with her it's not a good relationship.
(You know the girls like sensitive guys thing? Actually fairly true)
A goal to be more confident with people is a good one though, I do agree with that.[/QUOTE]
What. Being alpha is a nature. It's something you become to be. It's not fake. Your reasoning is...unreasonable. To me, that's like saying, that if before I became a bodybuilder I was let's say 6'0, 110 lbs I was insecure, and then gained confidence after I became 250 lbs, then it's fake because it's not the natural me. You can strive to be who the hell you want.
Furthermore, the way you say indicates, again, that you're not catching my drift. It's something that requires hard work, it's unnatural, but at some point it may become a second nature just as with everything you work hard for. It's not fake, it's the man I turned out to be after a while.
[QUOTE=Seith;35314812]I am one.
[/QUOTE]
lol
aww isnt that cute
in all seriousness though youre absolutely deluded and i hope nobody takes any advice you give seriously
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;35311854]Best way to go about it is not even think of those dumb terms. Just enjoy yourself. From my experience, it's far more attractive to be fun, engaging and to be relaxed compared to the try-hard, faker, stupidhead-attitude routine. Tell me who would you rather be hanging out with; the guy who has all the girls laughing and taking pictures of him or the try-hard guy trying to creepily steal a seat in your table?
They're not dumb, they can see right through you. So it's better to just be who you really are[/QUOTE]
Where the hell did you comprise the image that the word alpha correlates with a guy in a suit that smokes cigars and spreads money, like some mafia retard from the Sopranos? You can be playful and take pictures while being alpha. You haven't read one bit of the article thisispain provided.
[editline]27th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rusty100;35314977]lol
aww isnt that cute
in all seriousness though youre absolutely deluded and i hope nobody takes any advice you give seriously[/QUOTE]
It's so sad you feel that way because it's not something you can imagine yourself to be.
Is Seith the new Maverick?
He seems a tad more deluded/dim
[QUOTE=Seith;35314979]
It's so sad you feel that way because it's not something you can imagine yourself to be.[/QUOTE]
No, I feel that way because you have psychological problems
[QUOTE=SHOE3045;35311602]You guys are right, im desperate and thats why I got to know Jane but at this point ive gotten to know her so well. Its sad but I love her. At this point ive gotten to know other girls too (some who are even older than me), I still love her. I might have gotten to know her because I was a desperate fuck but she really has become one of my best friends.[/QUOTE]
This actually reminds me of a cartoon I read back when I was a kid (when I was about Jane's age actually). Re-telling it in textform for relevancy:
Cornelia used to have these vivid dreams at night, about a man named Caleb. In the dreams she was an older, more developed woman - a heroine with magical powers. She used to long for these dreams where she and Caleb could meet, and eventually she fell in love with him. She knew they could only meet in her dreams, but it was so real - She could even feel that Caleb loved her back!
Time went on and then one day Cornelia found Caleb out in the real world, and he was everything she had dreamed about. Caleb on the other hand thought that something was different... She was in her regular everyday form, which he wasn't used to. Caleb seemed to not mind at first, but as they started hanging out it dawned on him that this was not the Cornelia he had been dreaming about. Just as Cornelia had been dreaming about him, he had been dreaming about her - The heroine Cornelia which he shared so much with. This girl was just a kid, and her everyday world was far too childish for him to be in. He thought that he would love her for who she was, but child-Cornelia wasn't the same as heroine-Cornelia. She didn't know it herself, but she was different.
As you can see the Dream here could be translated into the Internet, and her heroine form can be translated into her Internet persona.
People think that the Internet persona of a person is the "real deal", but everyone who has ever met up with someone they've been talking to on the Internet knows that this is not the whole truth. She would still be the person you shared all your thoughts with, but there would be so much more to her. She would be a kid, with normal kid problems that you haven't seen before because her online personality doesn't show things like that. When she speaks with you online she is her Internet self, and even if she is completely honest it will never show the whole spectra of who she is.
Don't engage in a romantic relationship with her. You might think that she's mature enough to make decisions like that, she will think so herself at least, but she's not. There's nothing wrong with being her best friend, but keep it at a non-sexual level.
[QUOTE=Lukeo;35314996]Is Seith the new Maverick?
[/QUOTE]
No, Maverick actually gave useful advice.
I have a feeling I'm gonna have to go to the clinic if this little red bump isn't gone from my scrotum by Friday or something.
It's not getting bigger or anything.. Just very distracting on the mind.
I mean it's a red bump, on my scrotum. It's mentally uncomfortable.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;35315034]No, I feel that way because you have psychological problems[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't that be nice, if it were true... :)
[editline]27th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zamped;35316465]No, Maverick actually gave useful advice.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry you can't apply my advice to your daily life.
[QUOTE=SatansSin;35317650]I have a feeling I'm gonna have to go to the clinic if this little red bump isn't gone from my scrotum by Friday or something.
It's not getting bigger or anything.. Just very distracting on the mind.
I mean it's a red bump, on my scrotum. It's mentally uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]
I'm actually pretty sure that my suggestion to what it was is what it is. Everything about how you explained it still sounds to me like an ingrown hair causing an infection in the hair follicle.
it's definitely an ingrown hair. I would get it looked at if it gets any worse
[QUOTE=Seith;35317688]I am sorry you can't apply my advice to your daily life.[/QUOTE]
I know, your intellect is too complex for my puny brain to understand. :(
[QUOTE=Lukeo;35318386]I know, your intellect is too complex for my puny brain to understand. :([/QUOTE]
Even if I said that, which isn't true, it's still irrelevant. Nice try though.
[QUOTE=Aeris;35318293]I'm actually pretty sure that my suggestion to what it was is what it is. Everything about how you explained it still sounds to me like an ingrown hair causing an infection in the hair follicle.[/QUOTE]
I understand, and I guess I'm just paranoid about it I suppose.
[QUOTE=Aeris;35315811]This actually reminds me of a cartoon I read back when I was a kid (when I was about Jane's age actually). Re-telling it in textform for relevancy:
Cornelia used to have these vivid dreams at night, about a man named Caleb. In the dreams she was an older, more developed woman - a heroine with magical powers. She used to long for these dreams where she and Caleb could meet, and eventually she fell in love with him. She knew they could only meet in her dreams, but it was so real - She could even feel that Caleb loved her back!
Time went on and then one day Cornelia found Caleb out in the real world, and he was everything she had dreamed about. Caleb on the other hand thought that something was different... She was in her regular everyday form, which he wasn't used to. Caleb seemed to not mind at first, but as they started hanging out it dawned on him that this was not the Cornelia he had been dreaming about. Just as Cornelia had been dreaming about him, he had been dreaming about her - The heroine Cornelia which he shared so much with. This girl was just a kid, and her everyday world was far too childish for him to be in. He thought that he would love her for who she was, but child-Cornelia wasn't the same as heroine-Cornelia. She didn't know it herself, but she was different.
As you can see the Dream here could be translated into the Internet, and her heroine form can be translated into her Internet persona.
People think that the Internet persona of a person is the "real deal", but everyone who has ever met up with someone they've been talking to on the Internet knows that this is not the whole truth. She would still be the person you shared all your thoughts with, but there would be so much more to her. She would be a kid, with normal kid problems that you haven't seen before because her online personality doesn't show things like that. When she speaks with you online she is her Internet self, and even if she is completely honest it will never show the whole spectra of who she is.
Don't engage in a romantic relationship with her. You might think that she's mature enough to make decisions like that, she will think so herself at least, but she's not. There's nothing wrong with being her best friend, but keep it at a non-sexual level.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, this tale just helped on my own personal problem. I've had this crush on a girl for a while, and we have been chatting a lot through the internet and mobile. Though i have never talked with her in real life for more than 10 seconds.
You know, maybe i just got a crush on her internet-self, rather than who she really is.
Urgh, i just realised i might have made the wrong choice by already telling her about my crush on her.
[QUOTE=Seith;35318412]I am one.[/QUOTE]
Seith, embarrassing now. Now I know your reality. Let me honor your greatness:
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[B]SEITH WOMAN PRONESS SEXER PICK UP ARTIST OF FACEPUNCH FORUMS 2012[/B]
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[QUOTE=PassingWord;35321178]Come on guys, ease up on seith. He's just trying to give advice to the best of his abilities. Though I think all that alpha beta shit is pretty dumb. Seith you're acting like romance is based upon logical decisions. Nigga, just be yourself and you'll eventually find a girl you likes you for who you are.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm just teasing. He gets all puffy so I kept going. Regardless, this man is saying the truth
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