[QUOTE=Doriol;25631760]yes two words which are mutually exclusive are interchangeable because you're an idiot[/QUOTE]
if you're such an english professor than explain to us all what the difference is
[editline]25th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631767]let me run this down again so you get it
[highlight]hipster is a name you and others created for people you don't like[/highlight]
there's no clear definition like white or blue, there's no clear scene going on, there's not even a clear music style i know metal heads that say people's music is too mainstream
but that doesn't matter, because that one dick that said something stupid once at a party needs a dehumanizing name, and hipster is, truly ironically, a fantastically hip name
therefor I concur, anyone who calls someone a hipster, is in fact, a hipster
i mean how else do you explain this:
- activision hate
- lady gaga hate
- in the news threads
- minecraft v to the nth degree
- valve love
- hatred for posers
these are things that are ironically hip because they are not hip, and espoused by facepunchers far and wide[/QUOTE]
so basically what you're saying now is that anybody who hates or loves something that someone else loves or hates is a hipster because someone else hates or loves the thing?
[QUOTE=Swilly;25631769]While in a vague sense, yes it usually can work. However you're going to run into people who won't get it because their abilities to think abstractly about the English language are blocked by logical defined rules.[/QUOTE]
abstract thought doesn't help in a non-abstract argument
sounds more like a red herring than anything else really i don't really give a fuck about abstract english
[QUOTE=Swilly;25631769]While in a vague sense, yes it usually can work. However you're going to run into people who won't get it because their abilities to think abstractly about the English language are blocked by logical defined rules.[/QUOTE]
people who follow the rules of english and aren't uncultured idiots can't think abstractly about words that are not used correctly
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;25631771]
so basically what you're saying now is that anybody who hates or loves something that someone else loves or hates is a hipster because someone else hates or loves the thing?[/QUOTE]
no hipster is a name
what i'm saying is hey man, we're all human, and if you think hipsters have some flaws that you don't, think again man, so chill out on the anti-hipster stuff dude
I love being a hipster, it's fun.
[QUOTE=Doriol;25631786]people who follow the rules of english and aren't uncultured idiots can't think abstractly about words that are not used correctly[/QUOTE]
I wasn't saying that at all. Its just a mental block...and yes the words can be used together, it depends on the situation on hand. You cannot place a blanket statement for the use of an entire language.
[QUOTE=Kurtzund;25631794]I love being a hipster, it's fun.[/QUOTE]
Saying you're a hipster automatically takes your hipster card away :3:
i don't like Wilco and i think super skinny pants are silly, and kanye west gets really good sometimes but you know what, i've been called a hipster before
i know people who are like the complete opposite and have been called hipsters before
chillax man
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631792]no hipster is a name
what i'm saying is hey man, we're all human, and if you think hipsters have some flaws that you don't, think again man, so chill out on the anti-hipster stuff dude[/QUOTE]
This discussion is becoming awfully deep and philosophical.
can we all just agree that hating people because they listen to different music or dress differently is completely stupid and makes you an anti-social, greasy nerd
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631792]no hipster is a name
what i'm saying is hey man, we're all human, and if you think hipsters have some flaws that you don't, think again man, so chill out on the anti-hipster stuff dude[/QUOTE]
all i mean by hipster is people who wear skintight jeans and flashy colors and have a stuck-up sense of arts
[QUOTE=Mizzy;25631804]Saying you're a hipster automatically takes your hipster card away :3:[/QUOTE]
I was just trying to make a statement about the duality of man.
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631780]abstract thought doesn't help in a non-abstract argument
sounds more like a red herring than anything else really i don't really give a fuck about abstract english[/QUOTE]
Case and point, this whole thing started because of your non-abstract thought of guitarist and another word I don't feel like looking for. You took it to the literal definition instead of using the the definition society has placed on that specific word which we all learn as we grow up.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;25631815]all i mean by hipster is people who wear skintight jeans and flashy colors and have a stuck-up sense of arts[/QUOTE]
who gives a fuck
[QUOTE=Kurtzund;25631816]I was just trying to make a statement about the duality of man.[/QUOTE]
you just regained your hipster card
[QUOTE=Doriol;25631814]can we all just agree that hating people because they listen to different music or dress differently is completely stupid and makes you an anti-social, greasy nerd[/QUOTE]
It doesn't even do that though....hipsters are hated by everyone....apparently. So it doesn't make you a greasy nerd, you could be a sweaty jock.
[QUOTE=Doriol;25631825]who gives a fuck[/QUOTE]
fuck off, you're not giving anything at all to the argument anymore
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;25631815]all i mean by hipster is people who wear skintight jeans and flashy colors and have a stuck-up sense of arts[/QUOTE]
no that's fashion
unless hipsters have existed since the dawn of man you'll always find people with silly clothing or stuck up ideas about stuff
are you still not getting the human part i thought that was pretty simple maybe you and i need to smoke a spliff sometime or something
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631719]defend? hardly
the fact that you throw red herrings left and right proves that you are not really defending, more giving excuses for the odd and frankly awful things posted on this forum[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631719]defend? hardly
the fact that you throw red herrings left and right proves that you are not really defending, more giving excuses for the odd and frankly awful things posted on this forum[/QUOTE]
Red herrings? Do you even know how to use that term in context? And when people talk about hipsters, they're talking about the people who are fully into that "lifestyle" and proudly identify themselves as Indie. People who go out of their way to an unbelievable, almost insane extent to behave this way. If you're truly interested in hearing the side of the argument that [b]isn't[/b] yours, watch this video. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWXen-Niqc&feature=player_embedded[/media]
Your argument depends entirely on the old "Well, you guys exhibit some of those faint characteristics, so that must mean that you're no better than the people you're insulting." The reality is, [b]HIPSTER[/b] hipsters, like the ones that they're talking about in this thread, like the ones in the video in this post, are a breed of their own. You're twisting the definition of a hipster, trying to make it apply to everyone on Facepunch, all in an effort to prove some moronic little point of yours.
[QUOTE=Swilly;25631836]It doesn't even do that though....hipsters are hated by everyone....apparently. So it doesn't make you a greasy nerd, you could be a sweaty jock.[/QUOTE]
no it makes you an anti-social nerd with bad hygiene
[QUOTE=Swilly;25631823]Case and point, this whole thing started because of your non-abstract thought of guitarist and another word I don't feel like looking for. You took it to the literal definition instead of using the the definition society has placed on that specific word which we all learn as we grow up.[/QUOTE]
maybe it's because i'm english, but i grew up learning that guitarist meant someone who plays guitar
maybe where you live people are that stuck-up but i guess that's your problem you deal with that
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631839]no that's fashion
unless hipsters have existed since the dawn of man you'll always find people with silly clothing or stuck up ideas about stuff
are you still not getting the human part i thought that was pretty simple maybe you and i need to smoke a spliff sometime or something[/QUOTE]
and they've always gone by different names, the most recent one being hipster
maybe that'll do it maybe
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631848]maybe it's because i'm english, but i grew up learning that guitarist meant someone who plays guitar
maybe where you live people are that stuck-up but i guess that's your problem you deal with that[/QUOTE]
don't worry, in America it's common for people to be uncultured and not understand the language they speak
[QUOTE=thisispain;25631848]maybe it's because i'm english, but i grew up learning that guitarist meant someone who plays guitar
maybe where you live people are that stuck-up but i guess that's your problem you deal with that[/QUOTE]
We don't normally call someone who has a little bit of experience a guitarist, at least thats what I understood. Only after a year or two do people actually start calling you that.
[QUOTE=Doriol;25631862]don't worry, in America it's common for people to be uncultured and not understand the language they speak[/QUOTE]
hypocrisy sample #2
I swear everytime I read one of Doriol's posts I lose an IQ point
[QUOTE=animephreak135;25631841]Red herrings? Do you even know how to use that term in context? And when people talk about hipsters, they're talking about the people who are fully into that "lifestyle" and proudly identify themselves as Indie. People who go out of their way to an unbelievable, almost insane extent to behave this way. If you're truly interested in hearing the side of the argument that [b]isn't[/b] yours, watch this video. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWXen-Niqc&feature=player_embedded[/media]
Your argument depends entirely on the old "Well, you guys exhibit some of those faint characteristics, so that must mean that you're no better than the people you're insulting." The reality is, [b]HIPSTER[/b] hipsters, like the ones that they're talking about in this thread, like the ones in the video in this post, are a breed of their own. You're twisting the definition of a hipster, trying to make it apply to everyone on Facepunch, all in an effort to prove some moronic little point of yours.[/QUOTE]
you're getting pretty angry over something silly
and you're like starting to confuse me, are we talking about indiekids, hipsters or hipster hipsters
and you used a cartoon caricature as an argument
and i'm not twisting anything, i'm just showing you the word is totally ambiguous and the fact that you are getting so wound up over this is frighting chill out dude you'll have a heart attack at age 30
[QUOTE=Doriol;25631862]don't worry, in America it's common for people to be uncultured and not understand the language they speak[/QUOTE]
Its also common to have assholes who jump on the US bashing bandwagon very quickly and make stereotypical statements like the ones they were just trying to disprove about something else.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;25631871]I swear everytime I read one of Doriol's posts I lose an IQ point[/QUOTE]
i think we can all attest to this
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;25631851]and they've always gone by different names, the most recent one being hipster
maybe that'll do it maybe[/QUOTE]
well i like being fashionable yet i'm the one always mouthing off at people who are stuck up about art
just go to a thread where you have people calling the shots on the definition of art, i'll be right there saying "anyone can do art dude"
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