I don't think he was always the bad guy, but I think after hearing about what hes been doing to everyone (e.g. badmouthing) I realise it's been a much longer thing and affects more than just gmod.com admins.
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;28345808]Link?
I could do with an auto-refresher to help read all this drama. When I refresh it loads [I]one post at a time[/I] and takes goddamn ages to reach the bottom.[/QUOTE]
I don't even remember which thread it was posted in, sorry
I think mm3guy made it, ask him
[QUOTE=Pascall;28345797]And rilez has basically summed up everything. I used to respect Benji a lot but when he first started openly badmouthing both Pacific and Dragon in the GMF after Hezzy's demodding, despite him asking the mod team to behave more "professionally" (regarding the compwhizii joke threads) several times before, my respect just went downhill from there.
I haven't said much on the whole situation but I'm going to have to side with the majority here.[/QUOTE]
He begged Hezzy for a second chance as mod after he accepted bribes and was demodded, then was completely in favour of Hezzy's demodding
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;28345819]What was bhb's point in offing himself, again?[/QUOTE]
He's a martyr and forever in my heart
[QUOTE=Pascall;28345763]I'm not going anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Neither am I. Facepunch is my internet home.
[QUOTE=rilez;28345711]A final note for everyone that has posted or is posting discontent towards Benji/whomever: Your voice matters, but please be sensible. If you want to be heard, be calm about it. Otherwise, you are only fueling the situation, and potentially making it worse.[/QUOTE]
Getting this situation under control is everybody's top priority right now, and we all want to see Facepunch calm down and get back to normal. Too many people have been lost, and too many mods removed from their positions. I think I speak for most people when I say that enough is enough: I don't want to see anybody else suffer as a result of what's happened here these past few days.
I think Rilez' approach to this situation is the right one, Benji's actions have alienated much of the community, especially the moderators themselves. Let the mod-team communicate with Garry and try to come to a compromise that works best for everybody, but all the rest of us need to take a step back and calm down. In order for any positive action to start taking place, we [i]have to collect ourselves[/i]. I urge everybody to voice their concerns and opinions, but please (please!) do so calmly and reasonably.
We can't keep stoking the fires here or nothing but more trouble will come of it. Add in whatever you have to say on the subject, but keep your cool, be reasonable, and be respectful.
Oh, the humanity! Today is a dark day for many great posters.
-snip-
is dumb. (apparently)
[QUOTE=Greenen72;28345835]He's a martyr forever in my heart[/QUOTE]
to what end, though? I noticed someone said "wow garry you just proved his point!" I like bhb (his posting, not so much) and I fail to see what profound message he sent out by getting himself banned.
[QUOTE=The BoxDog;28345868]A definite winner. But who are you?[/QUOTE]
n00b
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;28345808]Edit: See you posted the code already.[/QUOTE]
That's not the one I use
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;28345853]we all want to see Facepunch calm down and get back to normal. [/QUOTE]
Nah, normal is boring.
This drama is nothing if not entertaining.
[QUOTE=rilez;28345711]Yes, and he was de-modded for exhibiting qualities that a moderator shouldn't. My respect of Benji has recently been diminished to a point where I can't say he is doing any better than he was back when he was de-modded the first time. Bribery is not acceptable, and neither are the new traits that have started to show through recently. I haven't commented on the majority of what has happened over the past few days. I wanted to keep myself from getting involved. This has gone too far, and it needs to stop. This is not intended as sass towards Benji. This is not a personal attack, nor is it an image macro. This is a complaint in regards to his ineptitude for being a moderator, and why he should no longer be in a position of power on this website.
Benji, as a moderator, likes to be in charge. Unfortunately, he appears to be incapable of doing this in a way that [b]doesn't[/b] alienate the people around him. Recently, this has manifested itself as a sort of "my way or the highway," attitude. Recent examples include [url=http://gyazo.com/8cb4e1b8f86b939a830efac35bba3f05.png]locking threads without consulting ANYONE prior to doing so (including yourself),[/url][url=http://gyazo.com/5dd6e4a59ea3341564a57ae8d3257da1.png] banning people in the feedback thread for voicing their discontent with the forums,[/url][url=http://gyazo.com/89ae2369937511d39432db65fffaa6d3.png] and unwarranted bans in general.[/url] Other examples of this behavior:
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1045425-Ask-us-about-the-forums-V10?p=28306353&viewfull=1#post28306353] Threatening users that wanted to discuss the recent events and changes regarding the forums.[/url]
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1063181-Mod-thread-4?p=28342035&viewfull=1#post28342035]Offering to "just not moderate" when his unwarranted ban was questioned by other moderators.[/url]
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1045425-Ask-us-about-the-forums-V10?p=28306477&viewfull=1#post28306477]Acting like he is the only moderator that is still enforcing the rules (which is an attack directed towards EVERYONE on the mod team) when I questioned him regarding his threat to people posting in Ask us about the forums.[/url]
There are more examples of this behavior that date back earlier, but you wanted examples that took place after Hezzy's de-modding. Benji has acted in such a way that many people believe him to be a [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1064250-It-s-time-for-you-to-go-Benji?goto=newpost]lazy[/url], childish moderator, that tries too hard to be in charge. He acts like he is above all of us, and I'm sick of it. While they may not have done it in a productive way, many people have voiced their discontent with Benji recently, enough that you reinstated the "no mod-sass" rule. [b]Surely[/b] if someone has received that much negative attention in such a short amount of time, these things should be considered? Childish or not, Benji has managed to garner complaints from moderators and regular users alike, and [b]I definitely think something must be done.[/b]
Other mod/ex mod opinions (WIP):
[url=http://gyazo.com/2e6d61fa7c385b21b5ba2635225139e9.png]Dragon[/url]
[url=http://gyazo.com/70488066dd53d69e184adbcef13c4240.png]TH89[/url]
[url=http://gyazo.com/78f82b8cbaa9aa13b5b8683d43a3c311.png]Orkel[/url]
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1064266-Ask-us-about-the-forums-V11-let-s-draw-dragons?p=28345797&viewfull=1#post28345797]Pascall[/url]
Note, not all of the links will work for everyone. This is directed towards Garry, as he has access to all of it. I am posting it here, so you all know exactly what is going on.
A final note for everyone that has posted or is posting discontent towards Benji/whomever: Your voice matters, but please be sensible. If you want to be heard, be calm about it. Otherwise, you are only fueling the situation, and potentially making it worse.[/QUOTE]
Can you PM me instead of posting all this stuff in public?
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;28345853]Getting this situation under control is everybody's top priority right now, and we all want to see Facepunch calm down and get back to normal. Too many people have been lost, and too many mods removed from their positions. I think I speak for most people when I say that enough is enough: I don't want to see anybody else suffer as a result of what's happened here these past few days.
I think Rilez' approach to this situation is the right one, Benji's actions have alienated much of the community, especially the moderators themselves. Let the mod-team communicate with Garry and try to come to a compromise that works best for everybody, but all the rest of us need to take a step back and calm down. In order for any positive action to start taking place, we [i]have to collect ourselves[/i]. I urge everybody to voice their concerns and opinions, but please (please!) do so calmly and reasonably.
We can't keep stoking the fires here or nothing but more trouble will come of it. Add in whatever you have to say on the subject, but keep your cool, be reasonable, and be respectful.[/QUOTE]
BDA for mod 24/7 365 days.
Thank god Jimbomcb is gone.
[QUOTE=Elexar;28344839]Ok!
*50 posts smartness would have taken care of*
Thanks Starpluck![/quote]
Glad to help.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;28345853]Getting this situation under control is everybody's top priority right now, and we all want to see Facepunch calm down and get back to normal. Too many people have been lost, and too many mods removed from their positions. I think I speak for most people when I say that enough is enough: I don't want to see anybody else suffer as a result of what's happened here these past few days.
I think Rilez' approach to this situation is the right one, Benji's actions have alienated much of the community, especially the moderators themselves. Let the mod-team communicate with Garry and try to come to a compromise that works best for everybody, but all the rest of us need to take a step back and calm down. In order for any positive action to start taking place, we [i]have to collect ourselves[/i]. I urge everybody to voice their concerns and opinions, but please (please!) do so calmly and reasonably.
We can't keep stoking the fires here or nothing but more trouble will come of it. Add in whatever you have to say on the subject, but keep your cool, be reasonable, and be respectful.[/QUOTE]
You need a "Voice of Reason" title, god damn
RIP all those who were perma'd during this debacle.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;28345881]That's not the one I use[/QUOTE]
well post the one you do please?
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;28345876]to what end, though? I noticed someone said "wow garry you just proved his point!" I like bhb (his posting, not so much) and I fail to see what profound message he sent out by getting himself banned.[/QUOTE]
He said he's tired of FP in ccof chat, and he's going to cut ties with it now.
He just wanted to go out with some class
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;28345881]That's not the one I use[/QUOTE]
Hmm. Do you use a greasemonkey script or put something directly into the URL bar or what?
Garry, the people ahve a right to see what their "fearless leaders" do behind closed doors.
[QUOTE=rilez;28345711]Yes, and he was de-modded for exhibiting qualities that a moderator shouldn't. My respect of Benji has recently been diminished to a point where I can't say he is doing any better than he was back when he was de-modded the first time. Bribery is not acceptable, and neither are the new traits that have started to show through recently. I haven't commented on the majority of what has happened over the past few days. I wanted to keep myself from getting involved. This has gone too far, and it needs to stop. This is not intended as sass towards Benji. This is not a personal attack, nor is it an image macro. This is a complaint in regards to his ineptitude for being a moderator, and why he should no longer be in a position of power on this website.
Benji, as a moderator, likes to be in charge. Unfortunately, he appears to be incapable of doing this in a way that [b]doesn't[/b] alienate the people around him. Recently, this has manifested itself as a sort of "my way or the highway," attitude. Recent examples include [url=http://gyazo.com/8cb4e1b8f86b939a830efac35bba3f05.png]locking threads without consulting ANYONE prior to doing so (including yourself),[/url][url=http://gyazo.com/5dd6e4a59ea3341564a57ae8d3257da1.png] banning people in the feedback thread for voicing their discontent with the forums,[/url][url=http://gyazo.com/89ae2369937511d39432db65fffaa6d3.png] and unwarranted bans in general.[/url] Other examples of this behavior:
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1045425-Ask-us-about-the-forums-V10?p=28306353&viewfull=1#post28306353] Threatening users that wanted to discuss the recent events and changes regarding the forums.[/url]
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1063181-Mod-thread-4?p=28342035&viewfull=1#post28342035]Offering to "just not moderate" when his unwarranted ban was questioned by other moderators.[/url]
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1045425-Ask-us-about-the-forums-V10?p=28306477&viewfull=1#post28306477]Acting like he is the only moderator that is still enforcing the rules (which is an attack directed towards EVERYONE on the mod team) when I questioned him regarding his threat to people posting in Ask us about the forums.[/url]
There are more examples of this behavior that date back earlier, but you wanted examples that took place after Hezzy's de-modding. Benji has acted in such a way that many people believe him to be a [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1064250-It-s-time-for-you-to-go-Benji?goto=newpost]lazy[/url], childish moderator, that tries too hard to be in charge. He acts like he is above all of us, and I'm sick of it. While they may not have done it in a productive way, many people have voiced their discontent with Benji recently, enough that you reinstated the "no mod-sass" rule. [b]Surely[/b] if someone has received that much negative attention in such a short amount of time, these things should be considered? Childish or not, Benji has managed to garner complaints from moderators and regular users alike, and [b]I definitely think something must be done.[/b]
Other mod/ex mod opinions (WIP):
[url=http://gyazo.com/2e6d61fa7c385b21b5ba2635225139e9.png]Dragon[/url]
[url=http://gyazo.com/70488066dd53d69e184adbcef13c4240.png]TH89[/url]
[url=http://gyazo.com/78f82b8cbaa9aa13b5b8683d43a3c311.png]Orkel[/url]
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1064266-Ask-us-about-the-forums-V11-let-s-draw-dragons?p=28345797&viewfull=1#post28345797]Pascall[/url]
Note, not all of the links will work for everyone. This is directed towards Garry, as he has access to all of it. I am posting it here, so you all know exactly what is going on.
A final note for everyone that has posted or is posting discontent towards Benji/whomever: Your voice matters, but please be sensible. If you want to be heard, be calm about it. Otherwise, you are only fueling the situation, and potentially making it worse.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=garry;28345896]Can you PM me instead of posting all this stuff in public?[/QUOTE]
If you want it to be deleted, that's your call; my intent was to let them know something was being done.
It's a greasemonkey script
I've just checked, it's releaed under GPL so I'll reupload it hold on
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;28345913]Hmm. Do you use a greasemonkey script or put something directly into the URL bar or what?[/QUOTE]
it's greasemonkey
[url]http://upload.somethingdickful.com/files/903_udtaj/fp_global_ticker.user.js[/url]
There were some issues apparently with greasemonkey but it seems to work fine for me
Big Dumb American should be a moderator. He's definitely more deserving of it than some of the people we have now.
[QUOTE=rilez;28345926]If you want it to be deleted, that's your call; my intent was to let them know something was being done.[/QUOTE]
rilez please dont get banned too!
I made a greasemonkey script that uses the ticker to live update a thread, but its broken in firefox and chrome right now for some reason :/
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