I hope she used the same phone number for the new account, it'll get vac banned as well
Isn't that ban evading? I am sure Twitch doesn't allow that.
[QUOTE=Oizen;52338859]VAC is an automatic system.
If the cheat in question isn't detected by it, I really doubt she'll ever be vac banned.
I don't think valve does them manually either.[/QUOTE]
Manual VAC's have been handed out a few times in the past.
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;52337511]even with cheats, she's still shit
that's just sad[/QUOTE]
reminds me of this black ops 2 video where this guy has an aimbot but still has a really terrible k/d because he is using an smg and keeps shooting people at long range. It's also TDM and he was always out in the open and gets killed before he can do enough DPS.
[QUOTE=matt000024;52337965]Yes, as long as the competition has no specific agreement not to.
Streaming is a stupid "job" though. If by streaming you are at gameplay disadvantage and you don't stop streaming, you have no right to complain when there is the simple solution of stopping streaming or at least putting your stream on a delay or something to prevent it. If you can't stop because "it is your job" then you have to either suck it up or find a real job.
I'm sorry, but if Streaming puts you at a gameplay disadvantage then there is simply[/QUOTE]
Lets put it in this simple way.
Do you need to use cheatsbto be good at videogames? You're shit at it then, and don't come with "doing it for the lulz" or "its how I have fun, aren't games designed to have fun?"
Do you use something most people don't use to get an advantage in game like streamsniping?
Then you're shit.
Play fair and clean.
Well, this thread went to shit real fast when I wasn't looking, damn.
that stream sniping guy who replied to every little post directed at him with a 5-page, proofread essay of a retort every time someone so much as farted in his general direction tanked the thread.
there's about 3 pages of shit that has nothing to do with OP's video
I just wanna go back to our original topic of how weird her eyes look and how big a silly billy she is
[QUOTE=loopoo;52340808]that stream sniping guy who replied to every little post directed at him with a 5-page, proofread essay of a retort every time someone so much as farted in his general direction tanked the thread.
there's about 3 pages of shit that has nothing to do with OP's video
I just wanna go back to our original topic of how weird her eyes look and how big a silly billy she is[/QUOTE]
I'm kinda glad someone who was actually ethnically chinese pointed that out, it caught my eye too but I didn't know how to address it without sounding racist. :/
That having been said, she's a grade-A idiot for doing this. Setting aside for a moment how badly she sucked with the fucking cheats [I]on[/I], it was just unfair to her team mates and for her viewers too.
Also, this "Dumpling Empire" "Angry Joe Army" business is just....[I]cringeworthy[/I], imo. It's like when making a brand for yourself goes too far. Next they'll be referring to themselves in the third person, like George Remus from Boardwalk Empire :v:
[video=youtube;bjSjyIoGIsA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSjyIoGIsA[/video]
Please ignore the stream sniping argument and go back to the initial topic on how much a fuckwit the girl in the OP is.
If the stream sniping argument is raised again you will be banned, we don't need that offtopic trash in here.
I wonder why the video has 1k likes and 1k dislikes.
I thought the vid was funny.
so, guys, what's your take on stream sniping the girl in OP's video? do you think she'd deserve it? we should do it on her new bogus twitch account.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;52336460]This is kind of a related side tangent, am i the only one who thinks it's stupid as fuck when people have like, group names and such? I'm all for giving your followers a cutesy name once you're big enough or if it relates specifically to some of the games you play, for example Angry Joe's Army is usually along the lines of what he names his clans iirc. But i always get annoyed when people do shit like "The Dumpling Empire," or "the Wolf Pack." I like some of Lobos Jr's runs but i've had to flat out stop watching some because of the show he puts on whenever someone subs to him.
Might be putting too much thought into it but it's similar to me like when Youtube channels have really long, overblown intros and the first line they say is "SUP GUYS IT'S YA BOI X BACK AT IT AGAIN"[/QUOTE]
Wait whats wrong w lobos saying the wolf pack. his name literally means wolf in another language. dumb
She is already getting followers and donations back in her new stream.
[QUOTE=Kalan Yamato;52341179]She is already getting followers and donations back in her new stream.[/QUOTE]
people are dumb, it's pretty fucked that she was caught red-handed yet still has followers stupid enough to support her. it's even worse since she's such a hypocrite "people accuse me of cheating just because I'm a girl gamer!" whilst legitimately doing just that.
does Twitch do anything more permanent and unavoidable to people who make new channels over and over even if they were permabanned?
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;52336460]This is kind of a related side tangent, am i the only one who thinks it's stupid as fuck when people have like, group names and such? I'm all for giving your followers a cutesy name once you're big enough or if it relates specifically to some of the games you play, for example Angry Joe's Army is usually along the lines of what he names his clans iirc. But i always get annoyed when people do shit like "The Dumpling Empire," or "the Wolf Pack." I like some of Lobos Jr's runs but i've had to flat out stop watching some because of the show he puts on whenever someone subs to him.
Might be putting too much thought into it but it's similar to me like when Youtube channels have really long, overblown intros and the first line they say is "SUP GUYS IT'S YA BOI X BACK AT IT AGAIN"[/QUOTE]
I think your pretty much expected to do that on twitch unless your someone like TB, it can be annoying if they export the streams to YouTube like Lobo's, doing shout outs at the end of the stream seems like a good compromise to me
Plus if the streamer isn't interacting with the audience, what's the point of streaming, you're just doing a live let's play at that point
[QUOTE=SuperDuprKyle;52341143]Wait whats wrong w lobos saying the wolf pack. his name literally means wolf in another language. dumb[/QUOTE]
He pulls out a stuffed wolf, makes his voice all deep and says "welcome to the wolf pack." It's like high school furry stuff :v:
However, if you'd read, i said that i do like his content, but on videos where he does that EVERY time someone subs, it gets really obnoxious.
-snip- it seems we are way past the stream sniping argument
[QUOTE=mopman999;52338539]Won't happen. Even when a cheat is first detected valve likes to wait and have people rounded up so they can catch as many people in one big wave as possible[/QUOTE]
I really don't like this approach and don't get why its blindly accepted as 'best practice', it seems like such a lazy attitude to take toward it. It's not a deterrent to cheat makers and considering how low cost it is to get multiple accounts for cheating, cheaters can inflict massive damage over the course of a month or two even if they do get banned.
An aggressive approach is the only good way to deal with cheating, it raises the cost substantially and causes a lot more work for cheat developers. It also causes a lot of issues for paid cheat devs because if people are being banned every 1-2 days using their hacks, they get a lot of heat on them and people wanting to chargeback.
[QUOTE=Cushie;52347674]I really don't like this approach and don't get why its blindly accepted as 'best practice', it seems like such a lazy attitude to take toward it. It's not a deterrent to cheat makers and considering how low cost it is to get multiple accounts for cheating, cheaters can inflict massive damage over the course of a month or two even if they do get banned.
An aggressive approach is the only good way to deal with cheating, it raises the cost substantially and causes a lot more work for cheat developers. It also causes a lot of issues for paid cheat devs because if people are being banned every 1-2 days using their hacks, they get a lot of heat on them and people wanting to chargeback.[/QUOTE]
A cheat developer could test whether his cheat is vac-proof or not a lot easier that way though. He has more attempts to get around it than with the current system.
[QUOTE=Cushie;52347674]I really don't like this approach and don't get why its blindly accepted as 'best practice', it seems like such a lazy attitude to take toward it. It's not a deterrent to cheat makers and considering how low cost it is to get multiple accounts for cheating, cheaters can inflict massive damage over the course of a month or two even if they do get banned.
An aggressive approach is the only good way to deal with cheating, it raises the cost substantially and causes a lot more work for cheat developers. It also causes a lot of issues for paid cheat devs because if people are being banned every 1-2 days using their hacks, they get a lot of heat on them and people wanting to chargeback.[/QUOTE]
As long as developing cheats is profitable (and it almost always will be) the cost of additional accounts will always be worth it for a cheat developer. There is no way around that.
As far as I know, the best Valve can do is make cheating very unforgiving (hence the permanent engine-wide ban), and the uncertainty from the time delay does make it more difficult being a cheat developer. Beyond that, I don't really know what to do; you've made your policy clear to the users and you can't outright stop people from developing cheats that you probably don't know exist, until some poor fucker on the other team has to deal with the cheating asshole. And at that point, the damage is already done.
[QUOTE=joost1120;52348655]A cheat developer could test whether his cheat is vac-proof or not a lot easier that way though. He has more attempts to get around it than with the current system.[/QUOTE]
Even if it's delayed by a few hours its better than weeks, its better to have a proactive team constantly working on detecting cheats.
Just look at what happened with DayZ mod and BattleEye, the most popular paid cheats were being detected and lots of people being banned within hours of being updated every day and they eventually just stopped selling them because it wasn't worth the angry customer base/chargebacks and the work having to maintain an undetected cheat.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;52348862]As long as developing cheats is profitable (and it almost always will be) the cost of additional accounts will always be worth it for a cheat developer. There is no way around that.
As far as I know, the best Valve can do is make cheating very unforgiving (hence the permanent engine-wide ban), and the uncertainty from the time delay does make it more difficult being a cheat developer. Beyond that, I don't really know what to do; you've made your policy clear to the users and you can't outright stop people from developing cheats that you probably don't know exist, until some poor fucker on the other team has to deal with the cheating asshole. And at that point, the damage is already done.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean for cheat devs, I mean for cheaters themselves. It's one thing buying a new copy for $10-15 off G2A every few weeks when you get banned, most of it just see it as part of the cost of cheating, its another thing having to buy one every day to keep cheating or stockpile keys and have to keep making new accounts.
It's worse in games where the cheating has a lasting impact on players as well, say a survival game or a game where people are losing MMR from ranked, being able to cheat for days or weeks before being banned means people can do crazy amounts of damage to the game before being banned at little cost to them.
I also feel like it deters your average joe from deciding to use cheats because the perceived risk of cheating is much higher, whereas when people go on these sites and read that its months since anyone was hit by a ban, they are more likely to give it a go.
[url]https://streamable.com/5cs50[/url]
:v:
What is the best thing is she is on damage control blaming some random person, but the fact is we just watched her load a config file...
Uh... my [I]friend, [/I]haha, who uses chaturbate see, [I]he[/I] says that he swears he has seen this girl on here under the name koreankitten... lol? Is he crazy?
surprised nobody mentioned it yet but yep there's the vac ban. just took 5 days.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Rsm5QHX.png[/t]
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198209989335[/url]
[QUOTE=postal;52361898]surprised nobody mentioned it yet but yep there's the vac ban. just took 5 days.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Rsm5QHX.png[/t]
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198209989335[/url][/QUOTE]
I hope whoemever examined the case at Valve was also able to view the tool, create detection patterns for it and ban others using it too. Fuck cheaters, they ruin it for everyone.
Reminds me of my brother back in the day on CS:S where he uploaded a screenshot for a competitive ladder at the end of a match with wall hacks clearly showing.
considering she's already moved all her items to a different account before the vacban it doesn't really matter at all if that account was banned.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;52342580]He pulls out a stuffed wolf, makes his voice all deep and says "welcome to the wolf pack." It's like high school furry stuff :v:
However, if you'd read, i said that i do like his content, but on videos where he does that EVERY time someone subs, it gets really obnoxious.[/QUOTE]
He hasn't pulled out the wolf in years, and he doesn't do a deep voice any more either.
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