[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48552162]Technically he could be first or second, seeing as Liquid doesn't know who was born first.[/QUOTE]
I thought Liquid was definitely the second? Because he thought he was the first with all the recessive genes and Solid was second where they fixed him with the superior genes, but it turned out Liquid was the superior one.
I haven't played it in a while so I might have missed something though.
[QUOTE=Kill Me No;48550194]RAY was built to destroy other metal gears, and it got rekt by a beat up REX.
Nuff said...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but [sp]the REX had Otacon going all techno wizard on it, and RAY had fake-ass liquid piloting it. That ain't a fair comparison[/sp]
[sp]Still REX > RAY[/sp]
[editline]27th August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;48552190]I thought Liquid was definitely the second? Because he thought he was the first with all the recessive genes and Solid was second where they fixed him with the superior genes, but it turned out Liquid was the superior one.
I haven't played it in a while so I might have missed something though.[/QUOTE]
Nah, it was all some kind of bullshit where they had to make at least 2 clones, one with all the dominant genes and one with all the recessive ones. So they were "born" at the same time (unless you count that "I was born first" bullshit twins do all the time).
Also Solidus was the third one as the perfect clone.
It's all weirdo pseudo-genetics
[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;48552190]I thought Liquid was definitely the second? Because he thought he was the first with all the recessive genes and Solid was second where they fixed him with the superior genes, but it turned out Liquid was the superior one.
I haven't played it in a while so I might have missed something though.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Liquid thought he was the recessive clone when really he was the dominant one, but that doesn't impact the order they were born in as twins. He says "There definitely is a resemblance. Don't you think, little brother? Or should I say big brother? I'm not sure..."[/sp]
well, if the trailer doesnt have spoilers, the thread definitely does
[QUOTE=haloguy234;48549533]The entire concept of a nuclear-equipped walking battle tank is dumb anyway and you're concerned about that? I love the hell out of MGS but I've never once understood why everyone and their grandmother had a boner for a gigantic bipedal tank that can fire nuclear warheads. "It can do it without being detected by radar!" Yeah, no. REX could do that only because it used a railgun. Regardless I think a satellite could get visual acquisition of a gigantic fuckhuge robot anywhere in the world if the cloud cover isn't nasty. The Shagohod was better in every way. Sure, it needed long runways but that was by far the most dare I say realistic concept for a tank that fires nukes.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention the fact that nuclear submarines already accomplish the task of firing a nuke anywhere in the world lol and they've been around for decades
Granted they can be detected oceans away from top tier naval vessels but its not like you could really do anything about it if one was dead set on launching a nuke. And even then I'm pretty sure you can run a submarine in some kind of stealth/lower energy/low coms mode that prevented detection
[QUOTE=haloguy234;48549533]The entire concept of a nuclear-equipped walking battle tank is dumb anyway and you're concerned about that? I love the hell out of MGS but I've never once understood why everyone and their grandmother had a boner for a gigantic bipedal tank that can fire nuclear warheads. "It can do it without being detected by radar!" Yeah, no. REX could do that only because it used a railgun. Regardless I think a satellite could get visual acquisition of a gigantic fuckhuge robot anywhere in the world if the cloud cover isn't nasty. The Shagohod was better in every way. Sure, it needed long runways but that was by far the most dare I say realistic concept for a tank that fires nukes.[/QUOTE]
its cool
[QUOTE=KorJax;48555172]Not to mention the fact that nuclear submarines already accomplish the task of firing a nuke anywhere in the world lol and they've been around for decades
Granted they can be detected oceans away from top tier naval vessels but its not like you could really do anything about it if one was dead set on launching a nuke. And even then I'm pretty sure you can run a submarine in some kind of stealth/lower energy/low coms mode that prevented detection[/QUOTE]
The advantage Metal Gear Rex had over nuclear subs was that its railgun made it a stealth weapon and one that subverted loopholes in nuclear treaties, and Peace Walker was basically a network of automated mobile nuclear silos, though I don't see how they would thwart satellite surveillance
Alternatively, you could say Metal Gear is for land-locked countries that can't maintain fleets of subs, the Shagohod was such a great threat because Volgin planned to hand out the blueprints to any kind of insurrectionist asshole that wanted them, which would have given long-range nuclear strike capability to a whooole lot more people than the major world powers
also giant robots are super cool
[QUOTE=d00msdaydan;48555542]The advantage Metal Gear Rex had over nuclear subs was that its railgun made it a stealth weapon and one that subverted loopholes in nuclear treaties, and Peace Walker was basically a network of automated mobile nuclear silos, though I don't see how they would thwart satellite surveillance[/QUOTE]
[sp]The point of peace walker was more the fact that it would automatically retaliate because of its ai, they wanted other countries to know it existed and would definitely attack. Satellites can also only do so much so having a constantly moving silo is pretty useful[/sp]
As for why it had to be a giant death robot yeah they're cool
[QUOTE=RAG Frag;48556131][sp]The point of peace walker was more the fact that it would automatically retaliate because of its ai, they wanted other countries to know it existed and would definitely attack. Satellites can also only do so much so having a constantly moving silo is pretty useful[/sp]
As for why it had to be a giant death robot yeah they're cool[/QUOTE]
[sp]Well that was it was for, but naturally Ridiculous McBadGuy wanted to use it nuke whatever for no reason because Cold War.[/sp]
[QUOTE=New Cidem;48563956][sp]Well that was it was for, but naturally Ridiculous McBadGuy wanted to use it nuke whatever for no reason because Cold War.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]To make sure the Soviets and own government believed the deterrent existed; no point having the deterrent if the other side doesn't believe you have it/it works. Insane but kind of makes sense[/sp]
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