• "Better to have never been" by David Benatar. A RIGHT TO HAVE CHILDREN?
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[quote]Three pages of Religious Shitstorm Katrina[/quote] :munch:
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;17828849]:munch:[/QUOTE] What was religious?
I say do what you want. The universe and everything in it is circular, everything shall eventually turn back into nothing.
[QUOTE=TheNiceAtheist;17822398]any counter-arguments instead of maligning one hour of typing? fail[/QUOTE] "COME ON MAN, FIGHT ME MAN! FIIIGHT MEEE!!!" *knockout*
[QUOTE=Kybalt;17828649]Because they won't be our kids. Would you want to take your chances with some kid in Africa being smart, or use your own genes? [editline]01:06PM[/editline] I don't think when your parents made you, they were thinking about solving global epidemics.[/QUOTE] I would if it reduced suffering in third world countries.
[QUOTE=livelonger12;17830457]I would if it reduced suffering in third world countries.[/QUOTE] Yes, a thousand children a month being adopted from a country with an average birth rate of 7 children is really helpful.
[QUOTE=philxyz;17828696]We don't have a collective, moral duty to "solve the global overpopulation problem" by limiting our existence. Space is huge. Use it. The likes of the wealthy power-elite just want less of us. Understand that.[/QUOTE] Because we can totally terra-form the dead bum fuck planets we have around this forsaken living rock. Totally, Most of them aren't gas planets, too hostile, or just plain dead.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;17832285]Because we can totally terra-form the dead bum fuck planets we have around this forsaken living rock. Totally, Most of them aren't gas planets, too hostile, or just plain dead.[/QUOTE] True, but give an infinite number of humans overpopulating earth and infinite number of typewriters and one will eventually write the complete works of shakespere plus, "how to colonize other planets"
[QUOTE=Archive;17822415]Live and let live until my rights to live have been imposed on* [editline]08:06PM[/editline] That's when you kick ass.[/QUOTE] The right to life of those in the future (and even the young amongst us) [i]is[/i] being threatened, since overpopulation can and will cause the death of billions if not dealt with by kicking some ass. [editline]10:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Kybalt;17828649]Because they won't be our kids. Would you want to take your chances with some kid in Africa being smart, or use your own genes? [/quote] It's just as likely that the kid in Africa will be smart compared with your own genetic spawn. [quote] I don't think when your parents made you, they were thinking about solving global epidemics.[/QUOTE] So what? How does that change anything? Just because you don't think of something doesn't make what you are doing right. We need to solve this problem, and it is going to be down to every one of us individually.
[QUOTE=Cathbadh;17828068]You know what the OP needs? An explanation of who Benatar is, and a brief synopsis of his argument.[/QUOTE] You know what you need? To actually read something for once. It could do you good.
While we are on the semi-topic of human introduction, I would like to ask a question, the answer to which I missed two years ago: What exactly stops humans who wishh to have sex, and not have children, to have sex outside of the womans period (and short time before it), instead? Did I miss something very important? Also, the thread creator is a C&P troll. The human, like any being, has a final goal of actual reproduction.
[QUOTE=gufu;17839072]While we are on the semi-topic of human introduction, I would like to ask a question, the answer to which I missed two years ago: What exactly stops humans who wishh to have sex, and not have children, to have sex outside of the womans period (and short time before it), instead? Did I miss something very important? Also, the thread creator is a C&P troll. The human, like any being, has a final goal of actual reproduction.[/QUOTE] Nothing stops them from having sex... My goal is definitely not reproduction, mine is to find a way to make us immortal and explore space.
[QUOTE=jalit;17839095]Nothing stops them from having sex... My goal is definitely not reproduction.[/QUOTE] Your goal as a being. Never said that it is your goal as an individual.
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