• Supergirl - TV show from CBS
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The characters should stay their original races cus, yknow, its their character
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;47721152]Well at least they're being creative about [I]something[/I][/QUOTE] That's not enough, I expect a 1000 word essay from DC on why he's black by the end of Monday morning. No extensions.
[QUOTE=InfectedPotato;47721163]The characters should stay their original races cus, yknow, its their character[/QUOTE] Apart from characters whose race is a major influence on the character themselves, (ie Black Panther), it really makes no difference. This is different, though, since it seems the character ionly shares the name in common with the original.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;47721198]There isn't anything wrong with the idea of a female Thor. The problem was that she was poorly executed[/QUOTE] And the fact she was poorly executed makes it feel like they made Thor a woman just to stir up controversy (and hopefully sales.)
[QUOTE=Primigenes;47721198]There isn't anything wrong with the idea of a female Thor. The problem was that she was poorly executed[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;47721213]And the fact she was poorly executed makes it feel like they made Thor a woman just to stir up controversy (and hopefully sales.)[/QUOTE] That was my point, actually. [I]There isn't anything inherentley wrong with a female Thor[/I], it's just that FemThor was more or less shoehorned in for the sake of being able to say "Look! We're progressive!". And the fact they were doing it purely for that purpose is why the writing is bad, because they're trying so hard to push the "LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE" message instead of focusing on telling an good story.
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;47720984]It's like asking weather or not there needed to be a female Thor. There really wasn't a need. It's like they're plugging in diversity purely for the sake of being politically correct rather then because the story needed it. If they hired them because the actor brings something really cool or interesting to the character, that's perfectly fine, but if the studio's all like "Oookay we need some token minorities because otherwise some uptight folks will complain" then ultimatley it's actually feels a little bit insulting to the minorities in question.[/QUOTE] 'Let's not diversify our characters and give minorities a fair amount of good exposure just because some guy on the internet might accuse us of being too politically correct' The entire comic book genre is practically defined by the fact that characters come and go and are born and reborn again and again, sometimes the same, sometimes different. Alternate universes, ultimate universes, etc, etc. I think it's rad that they're recasting this character as a black dude.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;47721238]'Let's not diversify our characters and give minorities a fair amount of good exposure just because some guy on the internet might accuse us of being too politically correct' The entire comic book genre is practically defined by the fact that characters come and go and are born and reborn again and again, sometimes the same, sometimes different. Alternate universes, ultimate universes, etc, etc. I think it's rad that they're recasting this character as a black dude.[/QUOTE] I'm okay with the casting of a black dude, the question on my mind is, was he hired purely for the sake of diversity, or was he hired because the actor can personally bring something unique to the character?
I didn't think you could get worse romance writing in a comic book show than Arrow, but I might be proven wrong...
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;47720935]Because there isn't a compelling reason to make him black?[/QUOTE] HMM maybe the actor gave the best audition? Maybe there's nothing more to it than that?
This is why networks think people don't want to see women superheroes. When she's not saving the world (Which I'm guessing will be 90% of the time), it honestly looks like a shitty dramedy about an under appreciated working woman 'The Devil Wears Prada' rip off. People don't want to see that shit.
Okay, I actually watched the trailer now. It looks...okay, I guess. Not fantastic, but eh, I guess it looks like it might be watchable. And...I guess that guy playing Jimmy Olsen could work. I mean, I'm not familiar enough with the character to know what he was supposed to be like, so I don't know if he really fits it or not, but from what I have seen, isn't he supposed to be short? Also is every DC comics show going to have the "My name is..." intro from now on?
it looks like shit and its generic af. i guarantee it will bring nothing new to the world of super hero's
[QUOTE=Butthurter;47722332]this is a real shame because i was expecting scoot mcnairy to play jimmy olsen in the dcu i guess thats out of the question[/QUOTE] This isn't tied to the film universe, it's its own thing. Scoot still set to be Jimmy.
I thought the effects for a tv show were actually pretty good?
To be honest....I don't think it's bad at all, I don't know why people ask how it got through Greenlight. Could someone explain to me, a guy who doesn't read comics, how this is bad?
I thought it looked interesting.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47723343]To be honest....I don't think it's bad at all, I don't know why people ask how it got through Greenlight. Could someone explain to me, a guy who doesn't read comics, how this is bad?[/QUOTE] The effects are laughably bad. Even for a superhero tv show. The lines are damn cringy and feel like they were written by a DA fanfict writer. The trailer was filled with cliches. And the whole "chick flick" style is just awful. Maybe the show is better but the trailer was really crappy even by mainstream TV standards. I'd expect something like that from a fanmade trailer. I don't know what's their budget but there is no quality, in neither the style, nor the visuals. It really does no justice to Supergirl.
So fucking cringey.
There's a 2nd trailer here [URL="http://www.supergirl.tv/2nd-trailer-behind-the-scenes"][/URL] Thats actually less Teen Girly like and it better shows off the......er.........show in my opinion.[URL="http://www.supergirl.tv/2nd-trailer-behind-the-scenes"]http://www.supergirl.tv/2nd-trailer-behind-the-scenes[/URL]
how to make this 100% more interesting: [i]sequel to 'the adventures of lois and clark', where's she's the daughter of superman and lois. However, superman lost her powers and her mother died long ago. Trying to give her daughter a normal life clark kent doesn't reveal to his daughter his secret identity until her daughter develops powers and becomes her mentor passing the baton and legacy to a daughter eager to fight crime and protect earth.[/i] How about that.
my biggest issue is how pandering and generic it seems. they just packed every single cliche from those female oriented sitcoms and devil wears prada type things into it. i cant imagine more cliches fitting into this if they tried. then again im not a huge fan of superhero tv shows so it might just be me
The only positive I can say about it is at least it's not overly dark and gritty like Man of Steel.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;47721238]'Let's not diversify our characters and give minorities a fair amount of good exposure just because some guy on the internet might accuse us of being too politically correct' The entire comic book genre is practically defined by the fact that characters come and go and are born and reborn again and again, sometimes the same, sometimes different. Alternate universes, ultimate universes, etc, etc. I think it's rad that they're recasting this character as a black dude.[/QUOTE] They come and go and are changed but there's usually a reason for said change. Like the Green Lantern becoming an African American, its not the original GL, the ring was passed on to him. Just making a character, already established and deciding 'eh I'm going to gender bend or racebend is the equivilant of going, 'I'm going to write a fanfiction'. People who ask, 'Why not?' are usually right after the people who ask Why and then never given a good answer. Also by the way, fucking Female Thor sucked when you had a literal panel in the comic saying, "Its about Ethics in hammer wielding." They didn't do it to give diversification or minority representation because they took an already existing character and just switched things around which is lazy as fuck. Make NEW heros, make NEW characters, make NEW stories and give those NEW characters and NEW heros a place to explore on their fucking own. Don't just go, "Eh, we'll give them this beloved super hero/heroine."
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;47721003]Except you haven't given a compelling reason why they should make him black. "Why not" isn't a very compelling reason. It's like making all the characters in Exodus white and then getting all huffy when people complain, and instead of defending your choice you're making people defend their complaints. When you change a character or concept, you have to give a reason why you're changing it. Telling people they have no right to raise eyebrows and question your decision is infantile.[/QUOTE] uhm, the characters in exodus have a reason as to why they should be egyptian. they were fucking born in egypt. there is literally no reason for jimmy olsen to be a specific race.
[QUOTE=darcy010;47722298]This is why networks think people don't want to see women superheroes. When she's not saving the world (Which I'm guessing will be 90% of the time), it honestly looks like a shitty dramedy about an under appreciated working woman 'The Devil Wears Prada' rip off. People don't want to see that shit.[/QUOTE] Devil wears Prada meets "early reveal Smallville" (because in the first episode she reveals herself to who should be her romance)
Are the supergirl comics actually like this or have DC just tried to make it seem like the Devil Wears Prada but with powers because that's how they think they need to sell a female lead? If it's the latter, fuck them.
All I see is complaining over a black version of a white character in a TV show about a female version of a male superhero.
[QUOTE=RaxaHax;47726093]All I see is complaining over a black version of a white character in a TV show about a female version of a male superhero.[/QUOTE] I might come across as a naive outsider by saying this but as someone who doesn't follow comic books (outside of the movies), a race change doesn't seem that crazy compared to some of the bizarre stories I've heard about the comics.
Why is she wearing a skirt? Isn't she afraid of panty shots?
[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;47721318]I didn't think you could get worse romance writing in a comic book show than Arrow, but I might be proven wrong...[/QUOTE] How bad was it in arrow?
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