Forums Discussion v3 - Post about Tudd and win a 1 month ban
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[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832607]Nobody's ignoring you though? I'm happily here to talk to you about it and anyone else on why.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and the talk was "ignore it/I don't care so you shouldn't either". I'm not satisfied with that answer. Why should I not care? Why should we not care just because you guys don't?
[QUOTE=Pascall;52832611]I adblock some avatars tbh.[/QUOTE]
Im assuming mine will probably be one of them?
I've had adblock on for the past couple of months. Just turned it off trying to figure out some browser issues, hadn't realised that screen-filling pepes and blatant-porn anime chicks were cool now.
Can all the golds have them now?
c-can i have both?
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832598]Well.
With knowing the source myself. That girl was being pegged pretty hard and well.
Source or near enough of Reagy's avatar doesn't display any actual pegging or banging.
[url]http://68.media.tumblr.com/02d9763caa7f104f66dee19fdb51e253/tumblr_nscahjyVO31ucppbjo1_400.gif[/url]
I'm not even fussed to be honest. I get why people would raise a fuss themselves though but I don't personally care that much as long as it's not actual porn that's not cropped.[/QUOTE]
If you want to go with the whole "who cares, it just facepunch lmao stop caring about the internet" that's fine, but be consistent. It's ridiculous to arbitrarily say "You can't have cropped porn where somebody's getting pegged out of frame, that's [I]too lewd[/I]" while also allowing softcore stuff where the actual image is just as risque as the images you're banning.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832607]Nobody's ignoring you though? I'm happily here to talk to you about it and anyone else on why.[/QUOTE]
It's less of you're not replying, but more of it feels like you're brushing aside any recurring issues (that have been brought up repeatedly for months now) with "who cares lol".
If there's one concern I have, it's that there's seemingly a double standard with cropped porn and stuff like Raegy's avatar. What's the difference from "actual porn that's cropped" and uncropped softcore porn. Although at this point it's hardly softcore, the only thing soft about it is that there isn't any nudity. Ultimately, it's all nsfw which is extremely questionable to have as an avatar.
It would be far easier to have this discussion if we had the images of someone getting "pegged pretty hard and well" for comparison by the way. You know, for research.
[QUOTE=Pascall;52832611]I adblock some avatars tbh.[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't have to use third party add-ons to have a safe-for-work browsing experience in public.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;52832627]You shouldn't have to use third party add-ons to have a safe-for-work browsing experience in public.[/QUOTE]
Good thing you can turn avatars off then.
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52832626]It would be far easier to have this discussion if we had the images of someone getting "pegged pretty hard and well" for comparison by the way. You know, for research.[/QUOTE]
I know you're joking but this is honestly a solution. If it was written down somewhere what is okay and what is not then discussions like these wouldn't have to keep happening. But a lot of the times it's rules that you have to learn by lurking that aren't blatantly out there. If it was written what "explicit" means and what isn't "explicit" for instance. And the common solution you guys give for not having rules written is "use common sense", so I'm kinda wondering how it's common sense to think softcore sexual avatars are okay but outright nudity isn't. I would think common sense there would be that nothing sexually suggestive is allowed.
[QUOTE=kariko;52832634]I know you're joking but this is honestly a solution. If it was written down somewhere what is okay and what is not then discussions like these wouldn't have to keep happening. But a lot of the times it's rules that you have to learn by lurking that aren't blatantly out there. If it was written what "explicit" means and what isn't "explicit" for instance. And the common solution you guys give for not having rules written is "use common sense", so I'm kinda wondering how it's common sense to think softcore sexual avatars are okay but outright nudity isn't. I would think common sense there would be that nothing sexually suggestive is allowed.[/QUOTE]
The rules aren't codified because the mods are arbitrary. Rules are interpreted and reinterpreted all the time. If they were set in stone, people would try to lawyer their way out of bans even harder than they already do. The downside is that we have to trust the mods to be fair, and they're never [I]quite[/I] fair.
alright now here's my question
let's say we get a mod that is a giant metal fan and decides that their avatar is going to be some oddly cropped brutal death metal album with a guy being very vividly ripped apart, let's say it'd be at least the level of something on gurochan (since it's apparently best to convey things on an anime/booru metric)
that's also probably nsfw, especially for the [i]literal[/i] definition of nsfw, but it's not explicit sex, nor is it even porn (unless it's literally sourced from gurochan)
are we going to make an arbitrary decision even more arbitrary by making "nsfw" really mean "sexual content" and then also mean "only sexual in the IT HAS NIPPLES OR IT WAS CROPPED FROM SOMETHING THAT HAD NIPPLES" sense
fyi we've told reagy to change it and to quit picking shit like this so you can all relax now thx
[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;52832639]The rules aren't codified because the mods are arbitrary. Rules are interpreted and reinterpreted all the time. If they were set in stone, people would try to lawyer their way out of bans even harder than they already do. The downside is that we have to trust the mods to be fair, and they're never [I]quite[/I] fair.[/QUOTE]
So this is the part where we demod anime right
[QUOTE=QUILTBAG;52832643]So this is the part where we demod anime right[/QUOTE]
That would mean demodding half of the team though?
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("nice avatar" - postal))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=QUILTBAG;52832643]So this is the part where we demod anime right[/QUOTE]
mod metal, demod anime?
i'm down
[QUOTE=PortalModIV;52832647]That would mean demodding half of the team though?[/QUOTE]
Is that...
[QUOTE=postal;52832642]fyi we've told reagy to change it and to quit picking shit like this so you can all relax now thx[/QUOTE]
:bullshit:
so here's the question
is no love deep web suggestive or sexual enough for its explicit nature to be bannable?
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832657]
Oh yeah someone also got away with using a nsfw avatar for years and everyone screamed until this year. Can clearly remember the event but not the user.[/QUOTE]
wasn't that the guy with the mario dick-nose avatar lol. pretty sure he still has it but i cant remember who it was either
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832657]Whilst we wasted a page on Reagy's avatar can we talk about PortalModIV's avatar which is clearly an erect penis and is something we would normally ban under normal conditions.[/QUOTE]
I mean, you're the mods? If you've seen it already what is the point of this? Tell him to change it.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832657]something we would normally ban under normal conditions.[/QUOTE]
What are "normal conditions?" We just established that there aren't any clearly established guidelines and that the rules are selectively enforced. You could pretty much make up any reason you want to if you want to justify that guy's penis avatar.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832657]Whilst we wasted a page on Reagy's avatar can we talk about PortalModIV's avatar which is clearly an erect penis and is something we would normally ban under normal conditions.
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yeah I'll ban him right away don't worry I'll get right on it
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832657]Whilst we wasted a page on Reagy's avatar can we talk about PortalModIV's avatar which is clearly an erect penis and is something we would normally ban under normal conditions.
Oh yeah someone also got away with using a nsfw avatar for years and everyone screamed until this year. Can clearly remember the event but not the user.[/QUOTE]
It's just an avatar, it's not a big deal, just ignore it. Who cares?
Can I make an avatar out of this?
[URL="https://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/5/2/5/1525.jpg?0434"]https://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/5/2/5/1525.jpg?0434[/URL]
(NSFW, dead people and dead things getting torn apart)
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;52832670][URL="https://facepunch.com/member.php?u=246541"]Fawkbawkz[/URL][/QUOTE]
What the fuck how did I never notice this
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;52832670][URL="https://facepunch.com/member.php?u=246541"]Fawkbawkz[/URL][/QUOTE]
Holy shit. I never actually noticed. That's incredible
I want to add that "oh people didn't care about this person's avatar" is bunk because Reagy is a moderator with a highlighted name and larger than normal avatar. The other users that have "avoided it for years" are obviously not going to be seen by as many people.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832678]Oh and another thing. Personally I don't like this whole aggressiveness that both sides have started being towards each other. Would be great if this didn't happen thanks, I'd be more inclined to reply.[/QUOTE]
[I]treat others how you want to be treated.[/I] If you come up here with "lamo who careas, glad I made u unconfortable" then don't expect others to take you serious or be nice.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832673]We aren't though. Just like you guys just hailed mary at Reagy for having an a sexualized avatar. Yes PortalModIV's avatar is a dick(btw we have noticed and we're currently busy talking and discussing this whole avatar issue so forgive us for being more focused on answering and talking!) and that's clearly out of line.[/QUOTE]
I actually wasn't involved with anything Reagy related. I spoke up when someone brought up codifying rules, which is something that doesn't happen very often on this forum. Personally, I don't care all that much about anyone's avatar, and I think most users are in the same camp. If you want to codify [I]those[/I] rules, then fine, but I think there are more important discussions which should be going on but which are explicitly being prohibited, which also hinge on the arbitrary enforcement of rules.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52832678]Oh and another thing. Personally I don't like this whole aggressiveness that both sides have started being towards each other. Would be great if this didn't happen thanks, I'd be more inclined to reply.
side edit [B]it also isn't okay that some of us do it[/B] but that's their attitude and their post doesn't reflect the entire mod team or everyone else in that mod team, you want their opinion just have to ask them personally but im always gonna give you my opinion[/QUOTE]
Maybe I missed something, but I honestly noticed very little aggressiveness whatsoever over the past page
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