Forums Discussion v3 - Post about Tudd and win a 1 month ban
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Instead of posts, what about that only receiving positive ratings (funny, winner, friendly) would gain you coins or whatever. This would mean you actually have to make a decent post, perhaps cap it at like max 1-3 coins per post and negative ratings (dumb, late) would simply do nothing.
Or if possible give people like 1-2 gold coins they can give out per day that would give another user a coin, something that would only be given when something is actually worth it, perhaps cap that as well to max 5.
Edit: Apparently already ruled that posts wont gain you coins.
Posts won't gain you coins at all, that much has been ruled out entirely.
[QUOTE=helifreak;52840197]Is FP 2.0 going to have a birthday message system that actually works?
[t]https://www.helifreak.club/image/20171031103656119.png[/t]
Last time it displayed the message was like 3-4 years ago.[/QUOTE]
Good point, they should make MSN Handles and AIM Handles work too. I'd said it before but it's my main communication line.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;52840252]Posts won't gain you coins at all, that much has been ruled out entirely.[/QUOTE]So do we all have to play Rust?
I didn't pay much attention to the whole "gamification" thing but was at any point explained why we need it? Because I can't really say the idea appeals to me at all.
It wasn't really a thing of needing it, I just think it's an incentive to use the forums regularly so you feel rewarded. We will have to wait until we know how it works before we jump to conclusions though.
I don't have to browse or post on reddit, that alone feels like a reward to me tbh.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52840302]I didn't pay much attention to the whole "gamification" thing but was at any point explained why we need it? Because I can't really say the idea appeals to me at all.[/QUOTE]
Stuff like the steam "service medals" for like 12 years of service or perhaps post count medals or maybe "mapping mogul" for people who post lots in the mapping section, I'd be ite with that but its pretty passive. Game implies you can control the input to some degree to influence the outcome
So is custom forums a thing of the past?
[QUOTE=WrathOfCat;52839315]I don't see why coins couldn't just be acquired over time as long as you've been active in like a year
That wouldn't encourage any extraneous or forced actions on behalf of the userbase[/QUOTE]
Tbh idk how many others are like me but I'm on facepunch almost every day. I rate a few posts but never really have enough to say to actually make a reply, though I feel I'll miss out with these kind of things, like I already am with gold
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52840316]So is custom forums a thing of the past?[/QUOTE]
Probably, the forums are more integrated with the games facepunch work on
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52840302]I didn't pay much attention to the whole "gamification" thing but was at any point explained why we need it? Because I can't really say the idea appeals to me at all.[/QUOTE]
Because Garry likes the idea.
Gamification of the forums sounds like a horrible idea imo.
The forum is already gamified. That's why you care that your join date and post count are shown.
Instead of just saying it's a horrible idea, try explaining why you feel that way.
Ratings already seemed like a game-ified thing to me anyway
[QUOTE=garry;52840394]The forum is already gamified. That's why you care that your join date and post count are shown.
Instead of just saying it's a horrible idea, try explaining why you feel that way.[/QUOTE]
Will post count still show then? :v:
Gamification's fine so long as it adds to the general forum experience, rather than impeding it. Ratings, postcounts and coins etc are fine because they don't get in the way of the core function of "posting shit on the internet". So long as we're not doing a DDR session each time we press quick reply I can't see it being a problem
[QUOTE=garry;52840394]The forum is already gamified. That's why you care that your join date and post count are shown.
Instead of just saying it's a horrible idea, try explaining why you feel that way.[/QUOTE]
Pretty it's assuming things will be taken further
Discourse has achievements and usergroups awarded for them
I personally don't care for them at all
Postcount and Joindate feel really normal for facepunch that they be tricked into not thinking it's gamefied
Gold Member just feels like rewarding old (and rich) members. It isn't a significant part of the forum and doesn't add a lot to those who don't even visit the GMF at all. (minus BIG AVATARS)
Really it just provides a place for people to talk about Pug Memes (and big avatars)
To me it feels like a minor addition that sometimes encourages posting without useless additions.
One common goal for everyone who appreciates it, instead of a large roadmap of achievements and unlocks
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[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;52840409]Ratings already seemed like a game-ified thing to me anyway[/QUOTE]
ratings are more responses than a point system
They're only accumulated in total on 3rd party (dead) websites that required everything to be submitted with crowed-sourced data collection.
It's now a staple feature on Facebook, Slack, etc.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;52840409]Ratings already seemed like a game-ified thing to me anyway[/QUOTE]
Especially back when ratings, both given and received used to be displayed on a user's profile, and even a tiny icon to the right of a username of what the user was most rated for e.g. '[Username] is Funny!'
might be interesting if there was some sort of currency on the forum, with no real intention for use, the forum users just decide how they use it. Maybe have it so its not reproducible (maybe you get one for each facepunch game you own) then you are free to give it to others. You could observe the emergent behaviour people exhibit with these tokens. Like a lesser oify nipple
On a related note, and this is important, what happen to oify?
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;52840489]might be interesting if there was some sort of currency on the forum, with no real intention for use, the forum users just decide how they use it. Maybe have it so its not reproducible (maybe you get one for each facepunch game you own) then you are free to give it to others. You could observe the emergent behaviour people exhibit with these tokens. Like a lesser oify nipple
On a related note, and this is important, what happen to oify?[/QUOTE]
if you got one for each fp game you own
i doubt anyone would use them due to how often you could actually use it
I don't have stats on how many posts are made per day, but it would seem even sparse with all data considered.
It's also just a shitty upvote system.
These are free on reddit
[editline]1st November 2017[/editline]
and if this even had incentives with it.
It encourages posting fake stories [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaConspiracy/][x][/url] to farm them. Baiting users into giving out a currency for whatever reason
There seem to be no option to edit thread title on new forum.
[QUOTE=Scratch.;52840525]if you got one for each fp game you own
i doubt anyone would use them due to how often you could actually use it
I don't have stats on how many posts are made per day, but it would seem even sparse with all data considered.
It's also just a shitty upvote system.
These are free on reddit
[editline]1st November 2017[/editline]
and if this even had incentives with it.
It encourages posting fake stories [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaConspiracy/][x][/url] to farm them. Baiting users into giving out a currency for whatever reason[/QUOTE]
people do that for funnies, winner and friendly here on fp anyway. At least having a super exclusive and limited rating people would absolutely only give them when they were especially thankful. You're right though, it becomes just another rating.
How will those with different emails link their accounts up? Will we just have to do a one time log into our old account to link it?
[QUOTE=butre;52840134]reddit and facebook groups mostly. by forums I mean the traditional classic forum such as facepunch, stuff like 4chan and reddit isn't dying any time soon.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm"]Well d'uh, anonymously or semi anonymously shitposting is a ancient staple of human social culture.[/URL]
[QUOTE=garry;52840394]The forum is already gamified. That's why you care that your join date and post count are shown.
Instead of just saying it's a horrible idea, try explaining why you feel that way.[/QUOTE]
Hard data post counts (and to a extent, join date) seems a bit silly to be displayed like it currently is, dividing into brackets varying between "fresh meat" and "no life" seems less gamifying.
After all, how many times have it been used to derail a discussion with low effort?
[QUOTE=garry;52840394]The forum is already gamified. That's why you care that your join date and post count are shown.
Instead of just saying it's a horrible idea, try explaining why you feel that way.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, you could argue that the fact ratings exist make the forums rather gamified. Post good posts, get rewarded with ratings. Sure, it's always said "don't post/care about ratings" but thinking about it, the fact ratings exist do make people adjust how they post, whether it's to not being a large asshole, putting more effort in your post or making epic zingers.
HOWEVER, it's all ultimately meaningless. Sure, there was that add-on a while ago that tallied all your ratings, but since then there's been like, no real lasting meaning to them. It's also all fairly user-controlled as opposed to "I do a lot of things on Facepunch, quality be damned, so I get rewarded!", atleast from how I understand the coins system works.
I'm also not entirely a fan of things like emotes and bigger avatars being locked behind coins. Emotes especially - why would I spend coins on that when I could literally just re-upload an image somewhere and link it? - but as it stands the two ways for people to become gold member (and therefore have bigger avatars) are good ways, IMO. One's a straight up donation to the community fund, and the other is such a big time requirement that you're not going to have too many idiots just-above-shitposting just so they can get an animated avatar of a dog licking it's own anus. It's quite easy over the five or so years it requires, to get the amount of posts you need without resorting to minimal-effort-posting in every thread just so you can be gold.
I think you'd have to balance out the amount of coins required to get bigger avatars/eventual animated avatars with a large amount of time.
As an aside, I think you need to be able to see who rates what in the new forum system. If only so the old standby of "rate this post X to enter my raffle" can still be a thing.
EDIT: As another aside... I really prefer sites that aren't centered. I know it wastes a lot of space on computers but it makes it more... book like, I guess? There'll probably be a way for a Stylish or something script to make it not centered but I just wanted to bring it up.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;52839843]It would be funny if bans deducted coins. Hell, make the bans take away a god damn percentage that increases the longer you're on the forum. Make it [I]hurt[/I].[/QUOTE]
No, instead of deducting coins, your percentage of coins (lets say 40%) its put on hold for 5x the duration of the ban so you also have to behave.
imagine having to wait a month for your coins to get back from your shitposting that got you a 1 week ban, scary as shit.
All while everyone can point and laugh
I like my post count and join date being displayed
There's no reason it just looks cool.
I am late to this show but why are we getting new forum? Did garry got classes about web desing but didnt have any way to show it?
[QUOTE=garry;52840394]The forum is already gamified. That's why you care that your join date and post count are shown.
Instead of just saying it's a horrible idea, try explaining why you feel that way.[/QUOTE]
Didn't we used to have a thing on your profile that showed what rating you received the most? That's like a primitive of this if you think about it.
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