• Forums Discussion v3 - Post about Tudd and win a 1 month ban
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[QUOTE=Mattk50;52619510] Edit: example that i just noticed [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1576535&p=52618239&viewfull=1#post52618239[/url] Honestly its even worse. Implying that there's a whole faction of secret nazis that appear on facepunch to defend anything related to them is a joke if you actually read the posts he's referencing in the thread.[/QUOTE] Uhhhh the literal only thing I see here is that he's saying there's a lot of users defending nazis. He's not calling anyone a nazi.
[QUOTE=Pascall;52619545]Uhhhh the literal only thing I see here is that he's saying there's a lot of users defending nazis. He's not calling anyone a nazi.[/QUOTE] not directly in the linked one, no, i'll have to search for the last thread i saw a direct accusation. But "stop defending nazis" has the same effect on discussion. It's a non sequiter where the discussion gets derailed and now its about whether or not users are defending nazis, and in 99.99..% cases that's not whats happening, and if they actually are those people get banned anyways.
[QUOTE=Pascall;52619545]Uhhhh the literal only thing I see here is that he's saying there's a lot of users defending nazis. He's not calling anyone a nazi.[/QUOTE] While I agree with that post's point, that post is still condescending and unfairly associative as hell. He's making the clear association with questioning censorship and defending Nazis, and that's way out of line. I'd say that should be bannable for not knowing how to argue and derailing. It's basically the same thing as saying, "YOU SUPPORT ABORTION? THAT MUST MEAN YOU HATE BABIES!" It's really not different, actually.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;52619563]not directly in the linked one, no, i'll have to search for the last thread i saw a direct accusation. But "stop defending nazis" has the same effect on discussion. It's a non sequiter where the discussion gets derailed and now its about whether or not users are defending nazis, and in 99.99..% cases that's not whats happening, and if they actually are those people get banned anyways.[/QUOTE] telling someone who is defending nazis to stop defending nazis is neither a nonsequiter nor a derail, in a thread specifically about nazis
I feel the need to bring this up here, this is not an attack but rather a criticism from my point of view, I'm on Facepunch for 6 years. I browse here everyday and yet I only have 717 posts. This was caused by the moderation from that time. I think at least twice before sending any kind of post because I [B]knew [/B]that the rules were gonna to apply. And If I see someone getting banned for something, I will take that as an example and avoid doing the action that resulted in the ban, but this is getting difficult every day. On a page, a member is banned just because he posted "ree" at the end of the message [QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;52591938]1080 on 15" is already troublesome for me, 4k would be painful why cant windows scale properly ree [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Ree - memeshit" - Kiwi))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Yet in the same thread the same mod and other users goes with the same kind of offense [QUOTE=elitehakor;52615201]: )[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Kiwi;52615210];)[/QUOTE] How should i fucking know what can cause me to get a ban and what could not? This makes me even more afraid of posting anything in here and thus I end up engaging even more with other communities And about all mods in general, I think if you choose to be a mod, you need to follow the book. Either create an Alt to be a regular user or simple do not apply to be a mod, it's not the job for you.
[QUOTE=Judas;52619568]telling someone who is defending nazis to stop defending nazis is neither a nonsequiter nor a derail, in a thread specifically about nazis[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Judas in an alternate universe;52619568]telling someone who is defending the massacre of babies to stop defending the massacre of babies is neither a nonsequiter nor a derail, in a thread specifically about abortion[/QUOTE] Do you think both of those statements would be equally fair?
[QUOTE=wauterboi;52619575]Do you think both of those statements would be equally fair?[/QUOTE] What's with people here and their inability to actually argue about nazis without going off to other subjects, antifa, BLM, communism, LGBT, now abortion?
[QUOTE=wauterboi;52619564]While I agree with that post's point, that post is still condescending and unfairly associative as hell. He's making the clear association with questioning censorship and defending Nazis, and that's way out of line. I'd say that should be bannable for not knowing how to argue and derailing. It's basically the same thing as saying, "YOU SUPPORT ABORTION? THAT MUST MEAN YOU HATE BABIES!" It's really not different, actually.[/QUOTE] It may be a shit argument, but it's not bannable. But anyone is free to refute his points. Now if he continued to repeat the same post without expanding on it further, then that [I]might[/I] be shitposting? It heavily depends on context. Might be condescending but if I banned people for being condescending, the entirety of Polidicks and SH would be banned.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;52619575]Do you think both of those statements would be equally fair?[/QUOTE] The thread is literally actually about nazis though, and how their presence online is being handled
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;52619584]What's with people here and their inability to actually argue about nazis without going off to other subjects, antifa, BLM, communism, LGBT, now abortion?[/QUOTE] The point I'm trying to make is that those people in those thread aren't defending Nazis, but the freedom of speech. They're afraid of censorship - a potentially slippery slope that might increase to envelop more and more people until many are unfairly silenced. Now, I don't agree with this point of view, but it would be ridiculous for me to say that they're defending Nazis, or at least make it seem like their intent is to protect them. Their goal is to protect freedom of speech. Similarly, the people that defend abortion aren't defending it because of bloodlust for babies, or disregarding the lives of babies. There are plenty of cases made about the woman's right to their own body, the fear of the baby being forced into adoption or poverty if the parent isn't ready, etc. Saying abortion is "for killing babies" is a great way to halt the conversation because at that point the conversation won't move forward. It's just a one-sided blaming game where any other point is simply a point for "baby-killing". Any point about censorship or anything else is a point for Nazism. It's just nonsense and doesn't belong on this forum, imo.
[QUOTE=The Genie;52619598]I personally think the first statement was unnecessary. The rest of the post seems fair. I don't think it should be discounted based on that sentence alone. It's clearly someone who just feels quite strongly about the recent nazi incidents.[/QUOTE] That's basically what I'm talking about. In his first breath he made a very unfair association.
Y'all need to take the Nazi discussion elsewhere, this thread is getting a little close to being a clone of a Polidicks thread
[QUOTE=Judas;52619480]yeah... sure [img]https://i.imgur.com/7fVncqi.png[/img][/QUOTE] willing to admit his mistake and undo his ban, clearly the best mod. [QUOTE=Andre Gomes;52619569] On a page, a member is banned just because he posted "ree" at the end of the message[/QUOTE] just fyi we did discuss this over mod chat and opted to be more relaxed with these super minor debatable memes stuff, and simply ban if the post itself is a shit one [QUOTE=AtomicSans;52619694]Y'all need to take the Nazi discussion elsewhere, this thread is getting a little close to being a clone of a Polidicks thread[/QUOTE] nazi discussion is always relevant in a facepunch discussion thread tbh
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[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52619694]Y'all need to take the Nazi discussion elsewhere, this thread is getting a little close to being a clone of a Polidicks thread[/QUOTE] I just wish people would respond to posts they think should be banned in threads themselves instead of coming and complaining in this thread. [QUOTE=wauterboi;52619564]While I agree with that post's point, that post is still condescending and unfairly associative as hell. He's making the clear association with questioning censorship and defending Nazis, and that's way out of line. [B]I'd say that should be bannable for not knowing how to argue and derailing.[/B] It's basically the same thing as saying, "YOU SUPPORT ABORTION? THAT MUST MEAN YOU HATE BABIES!" It's really not different, actually.[/QUOTE] what does "not knowing how to argue" even mean? Why not explain to him why he is wrong in that thread? The fact that the post has almost as many boxes as zings shows that more than one person finds his point controversial, why don't they argue him instead of just asking for him to be banned? This push to sidestep conversation in one section of the board and instead calling for bans its hurting discussion more than their posts actually do.
[QUOTE=icemaz;52616381]All users should be forced to use an avatar sourced using a google image search of their username, resized to 80 x 80[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://cdnimg.fonts.net/CatalogImages/23/146031.png[/IMG] wow
[QUOTE=postal;52619723]just fyi we did discuss this over mod chat and opted to be more relaxed with these super minor debatable memes stuff, and simply ban if the post itself is a shit one[/QUOTE] Thanks for the feedback postal
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52619581]Go to Page 14 and search for my name. Also non of those are meme shit and stop bringing up old things thanks.[/QUOTE] Can you answer a question/respond to criticism without coming off as snide? Nobody wants to cooperate if you're just going to blow everything off.
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I am in a tier all my own and that tier is "Asleep".
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;52619909]thats the best tier[/QUOTE] Martyr
I think officially i'm classed as a lower tier than the bloke who fixes the chicken soup machine. [editline]28th August 2017[/editline] At least he gets paid.
go to bed doom low tier scum
You think these forum mods are bad? Clearly you have not been to Bungie's forum where if break any rule(s) 3 times you get permabanned. I know this because my first post got me banned for "wrong section" even though there was no other section to make a post of whatever it was I was wanting to post back in the day. What i'm trying to say is FP mods are pretty chill and some of you really need to step away from the keyboard for a few hours and go for a walk or something. People make mistakes all the time but I imagine stuff is talked about behind the scenes as to if an action went too far or not.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52619914]Tiers are for loooooooosers How about ban levels Every time a mod bans they go up a level Every time they have to unban they lose a level Bonus points if you permanently ban someone and they aren't a spam bot[/QUOTE]lmao typical reply from a mod that knows he'd be bottom tier Also losing a level for reducing bans wtf that's an important part of what we do. bottom tier status confirmed
[QUOTE=Nomad;52619944]imagine stuff is talked about behind the scenes as to if an action went too far or not.[/QUOTE] Postal and the moderator forum v2
[QUOTE=Nomad;52619944]I imagine stuff is talked about behind the scenes as to if an action went too far or not.[/QUOTE] We constantly talk/bitch/yell at each other over anything, not to annoy each other but to improve. seeing we're all different and approach things differently, it's always been important.
I have an actual recommendation to correct the declining post quality I've been seeing lately. Just take one of my posts, any of them, and have them propped up as a guideline to posting whenever someone wants to post. It creates aspiration in one's mind to be like "damn that's a really good post, I should make a good post too" As such, shitposts go down, quality of life goes up, and I take claim of this website as divine right.
[QUOTE=MoopsiePook;52619996]I have an actual recommendation to correct the declining post quality I've been seeing lately. Just take one of my posts, any of them, and have them propped up as a guideline to posting whenever someone wants to post. It creates aspiration in one's mind to be like "damn that's a really good post, I should make a good post too" As such, shitposts go down, quality of life goes up, and I take claim of this website as divine right.[/QUOTE] My post quality started declining when I realised I was spending too much time writing long replies that no one wants to take the time to read. The faster I can get a post out, and the more digestible it is, the more likely people are going to read or consider it.
[QUOTE=Scratch.;52620021]My post quality started declining when I realised I was spending too much time writing long replies that no one wants to take the time to read. The faster I can get a post out, and the more digestible it is, the more likely people are going to read or consider it.[/QUOTE] TLDR
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