[QUOTE=iusehax;22822274]actually it was a ceasefire and hardly a real war.
A real war would of meant Israel wiped of the map but it wasnt an all our army war.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War[/url]
Seems like a real war to me. You're just mad that the Arab's ass got handed to them several times by Israel.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822272]We pulled out of Gaza in '05, but the Palestinians didn't do anything to promote peace. They kidnapped soldiers and elected a terrorist organization which fires rockets into Israel daily.
We did our part, now if they want peace, they should do theirs.[/QUOTE]
What are you even talking about, Hamas did not fire a rocket into Israel for 6 months until Israel broke cease fire.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22822301]What are you even talking about, Hamas did not fire a rocket into Israel for 6 months until Israel broke cease fire.[/QUOTE]
That was in 2008. They still didn't give Gilad Shalit back too.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822249]They do hate Jews. The Western world's criticism of Israel isn't antisemitic, the Arab world is mostly antisemitic.
Israel "took their land" because they lost a war, which the Arabs started. For example the '48 war, which started as Israel declared independence, the Arabs wouldn't allow any Jewish state in the middle east, and 5 countries declared war on Israel, and a few others sent help too, and Israel beat them all and got more lands out of it as well.
The blockade isn't illegal, it stops the Hamas from getting weapons and construction material which they'll use to build tunnels and get more weapons.
Israel recognizes the Palestinian's right to self-sovereignty, but it can't just pull out of the West Bank. It did that with Gaza, and it only got the Hamas into power.[/QUOTE]
no, Arabs do not hate Jews just because you think so
Israel wouldn't exist if it hadn't been for the US and Britain, and of course the Arabs aren't going to allow a state that was just forcefully taken over you'd be mad to do such a thing
the blockade is illegal, i don't know what fantasy, brainwashed world you've been living in
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822286]Learn some proper English and basic history of the conflict, then come back. Seriously.[/QUOTE]
Hey dude,
I can speak a bit better than you.
See? with caps lock and dictation its all diffrent.
But sadly, for them it dosent matter.
If your a jew- your out.your an animal..
I just want to show people the real israel..
Got me?
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822300][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War[/URL]
Seems like a real war to me. You're just mad that the Arab's ass got handed to them several times by Israel.[/QUOTE]
are you kidding? a "real war"? the countries that DID send support sent not even 30% of their military power
[QUOTE=iusehax;22822274]actually it was a ceasefire and hardly a real war.
A real war would of meant Israel wiped of the map but it wasnt an all our army war.[/QUOTE]
yom kippur was a "real war", look what happened then.
Also no reply to my aid video Fatzo? Bawwww D:.
[QUOTE=JerryK;22822316]no, Arabs do not hate Jews just because you think so
Israel wouldn't exist if it hadn't been for the US and Britain, and of course the Arabs aren't going to allow a state that was just forcefully taken over you'd be mad to do such a thing
the blockade is illegal, i don't know what fantasy, brainwashed world you've been living in[/QUOTE]
I don't know what kind of a fantasy world are you living in. Do you know anything of what happened before the Jews declared independence in Israel?
The blockade is legal - [url]http://www.vilp.de/Enpdf/e025.pdf[/url]
"5.2.10 Blockade
Blockade, i.e. the interdiction of all or certain maritime traffic coming from or going to a port or coast of a
belligerent, is a legitimate method of naval warfare. In order to be valid, the blockade must be declared,
notified to belligerent and neutral States, effective and applied impartially to ships of all States. A blockade
may not bar access to neutral ports or coasts. Neutral vessels believed on reasonable and probable
grounds to be breaching a blockade may be stopped and captured. If they, after prior warning, clearly resist
capture, they may be attacked."
Note the word "legitimate".
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822349]I don't know what kind of a fantasy world are you living in. Do you know anything of what happened before the Jews declared independence in Israel?
The blockade is legal - [URL]http://www.vilp.de/Enpdf/e025.pdf[/URL]
"5.2.10 Blockade
Blockade, i.e. the interdiction of all or certain maritime traffic coming from or going to a port or coast of a
belligerent, is a legitimate method of naval warfare. In order to be valid, the blockade must be declared,
notified to belligerent and neutral States, effective and applied impartially to ships of all States. A blockade
may not bar access to neutral ports or coasts. Neutral vessels believed on reasonable and probable
grounds to be breaching a blockade may be stopped and captured. If they, after prior warning, clearly resist
capture, they may be attacked."
Note the word "legitimate".[/QUOTE]
the blockade is not legal
[QUOTE=EnenehV2;22822345]yom kippur was a "real war", look what happened then.[/QUOTE]
We have shred 600 enemy planes a day. we had a total air superiority in a day..
we had 150 airplanes and they had 600. we were one and they were 3....
ditto.
But really if all thoses countrys attacked at once and used their armys to full extent gayrael would be no longer.
I really hate Israel and so do most people its like 2 guys vs the rest who posted really get off this forum now and go do jewish stuff k?
[QUOTE=Fatzo;22822320]Hey dude,
I can speak a bit better than you.
See? with caps lock and dictation its all diffrent.
But sadly, for them it dosent matter.
If your a jew- your out.your an animal..
I just want to show people the real israel..
Got me?[/QUOTE]
No,
You can't speak better than me.
See? with weird and sudden interruptions of sentences.
And no capitalization of "israel" or other times when it's needed.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822314]That was in 2008. They still didn't give Gilad Shalit back too.[/QUOTE]
Israel also didn't release the substantial amount of Palestinian prisoners who weren't even given a trial.
Oh, and Hamas soldiers. Israel can classify them as terrorists all they want, and so Hamas can do the same thing with Gilad.
I thought you guys had already established that both Gaza and Israel suck in one of the other 10 threads? What did I miss?
Also, I think OP is a troll. Or just very very young.
[QUOTE=Fatzo;22822320]Hey dude,
I can speak a bit better than you.
See? with caps lock and dictation its all diffrent.
But sadly, for them it dosent matter.
If your a jew- your out.your an animal..
I just want to show people the real israel..
Got me?[/QUOTE]
are you serious?
[editline]03:03PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Re-y-tard;22822380]I thought you guys had already established that both Gaza and Israel suck in one of the other 10 threads? What did I miss?
Also, I think OP is a troll. Or just very very young.[/QUOTE]
You have not missed anything and you're right.
Is it me or are Jews so cocky?
(LOOL pun if you get it)
The only reason no one attacks Israel is because of America
watch that guys vid and see.
[QUOTE=Fatzo;22822088]your the 3rd turkish in my life that knows english..
i know that , i have been there..
forgot the big earthquake 6 years ago in turkey?? alot died.. alot injured.. who were the first to send AID GROUP and a flying HOSPITAL???
ISRAEL... ..
BY THE WAY.. 1.5MILLION ARMENIAN CANT SEE THIS POST.. SHOULD I TELL WHY? OR YOU SMART PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW THE ARMENIAN HOLOCAUST ...[/QUOTE]
1.5 Armenians couldn't have died. Even Armenian records show that there were only nearly 1 million in Armenians living in the borders of Ottoman Empire. And Turkish soldiers actually protected Armenians when they were being attacked by angry mobs.
I totally and fully support Israel. I feel sorry for you guys.
Israel is the only democracy in the middle of alot of barbaric countries - countries that execute homosexuals and women that have been raped.
It makes no sense at all that big parts of the world is against Israel even though Israel is the only country in the Middle East that cares for human rights.
[QUOTE=JerryK;22822328]are you kidding? a "real war"? the countries that DID send support sent not even 30% of their military power[/QUOTE]
So? with 5 against 1, it takes each country to send 20% of their military power for it to be an even match, if the 1 country has a military.
Israel didn't even have an official military at the time, only in the middle of the war did the paramilitary groups joined into an official army.
[QUOTE=EnenehV2;22822345]yom kippur was a "real war", look what happened then.[/QUOTE]
The 6-days war is also a "real war", look what happened then.
Yom Kippur was still a victory for Israel BTW.
[editline]04:04PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=JerryK;22822360]the blockade is not legal[/QUOTE]
Says who?
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822407]So? with 5 against 1, it takes each country to send 20% of their military power for it to be an even match, if the 1 country has a military.
Israel didn't even have an official military at the time, only in the middle of the war did the paramilitary groups joined into an official army.
The 6-days war is also a "real war", look what happened then.
Yom Kippur was still a victory for Israel BTW.[/QUOTE]
you would be nothing without the US, stop pretending otherwise
[editline]08:05AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822407]So? with 5 against 1, it takes each country to send 20% of their military power for it to be an even match, if the 1 country has a military.
Israel didn't even have an official military at the time, only in the middle of the war did the paramilitary groups joined into an official army.
The 6-days war is also a "real war", look what happened then.
Yom Kippur was still a victory for Israel BTW.
[editline]04:04PM[/editline]
Says who?[/QUOTE]
everyone who matters
[QUOTE=Mikaelh;22822405]I totally and fully support Israel. I feel sorry for you guys.
Israel is the only democracy in the middle of alot of barbaric countries - countries that execute homosexuals and women that have been raped.
It makes no sense at all that big parts of the world is against Israel even though Israel is the only country in the Middle East that cares for human rights.[/QUOTE]
ha OP made a fake account to back himself up.
[QUOTE=Mikaelh;22822405]I
Israel is the only democracy in the middle of alot of barbaric countries
even though Israel is the only country in the Middle East that cares for human rights.[/QUOTE]
Sadly, Israel contradicts your post daily.
[QUOTE=Mikaelh;22822405]I totally and fully support Israel. I feel sorry for you guys.
Israel is the only democracy in the middle of alot of barbaric countries - countries that execute homosexuals and women that have been raped.
It makes no sense at all that big parts of the world is against Israel even though Israel is the only country in the Middle East that cares for human rights.[/QUOTE]
HAHA oh wow
oooh woooow
if by human rights you mean using civilians as shields, killing civilians, and destroying humans
[QUOTE=iusehax;22822423]ha OP made a fake account to back himself up.[/QUOTE]
Well at the other hand that guy can actually spell.
[QUOTE=JerryK;22822413]you would be nothing without the US, stop pretending otherwise[/quote]
How is that relevant? The entire Arab world gets their main income because they happen to be sitting on Oil wells.
[quote]everyone who matters[/QUOTE]
Name some people, go on it's not too hard.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22822407]
Says who?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE65404020100605"]U.N High Commissioner of Human Rights[/URL]
[URL="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10306193.stm"]International Red Cross[/URL]
[URL="http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/suffocating-gaza-israeli-blockades-effects-palestinians-2010-06-01"]Amnesty International[/URL]
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22822460]How is that relevant? The entire Arab world gets their main income because they happen to be sitting on Oil wells.
Name some people, go on it's not too hard.[/QUOTE]
^ starpluck's post
[QUOTE=JerryK;22822413]you would be nothing without the US, stop pretending otherwise[/quote]
I don't see any US help in any war Israel was involved with. They may help us with fundings and stuff (3 bln our of the 200~ bln GDP we make yearly) but not directly in fighting, unlike the Arab states which send troops and stuff to help.
[quote]everyone who matters[/QUOTE]
Like? The only group which comes close to matter in this subject is the UN security council, and they didn't declare the blockade illegal.
[QUOTE=JerryK;22822431]HAHA oh wow
oooh woooow
if by human rights you mean using civilians as shields, killing civilians, and destroying humans[/QUOTE]
No, seriously. They are the most democratic and free region in the entire area. They are also one of the few countries in that area who don't execute gays, how cruel.
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