I'm sure you guys holding him down and covering his mouth didn't help. Not giving you shit for it, just saying that something like that will only escalate the paranoia and insanity inside of someone while tripping
[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;40225899]I'm sure you guys holding him down and covering his mouth didn't help. Not giving you shit for it, just saying that something like that will only escalate the paranoia and insanity inside of someone while tripping[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly, but what else could they do?
p.s. fuck these drugs
[QUOTE=Anubis678;40225274]I dosed this a few nights ago, taking 6 tabs of unknown strength over the course of three hours. The tabs are fairly potent, as the first two I took produced an almost surprisingly powerful come-up.
After this past trip, I vowed to never touch another 25X. This was my third time dosing and it was an entirely unnerving experience. I've come to realize that this drug produces pure manic psychosis in me. For most of the trip, I thought I had gone legitimately insane and I would never come back from it. The scariest part: I loved every moment of it.
I won't go into too much detail, but there were times I was afraid I was going to lose complete control and hurt/kill my roommates or myself.
I love psychedelics... but the cold, dark mania this produces feels dirty and malevolent. I feel evil on this drug, and I find myself delighted by the thought of evil while tripping. It makes me feel like the devil.
I've still got 4 tabs and I'm not sure what to do with them. I'm worried (perhaps unreasonably so) that a fourth venture into this madness would produce a true psychotic break that I would not return from. Each trip on this nasty shit has proven progressively manic and delusional.[/QUOTE]
Give them away.
[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;40225899]I'm sure you guys holding him down and covering his mouth didn't help. Not giving you shit for it, just saying that something like that will only escalate the paranoia and insanity inside of someone while tripping[/QUOTE]
I know what your saying,
It was the last thing we did, it got to the point where we were 100% sure he would seriously hurt if not kill himself if we didnt get physical.
[QUOTE=lunarwalrus;40229783]Give them away.[/QUOTE]
Selling them would be more economical.
I don't know anyone that wants them.
But fuck it, I'll probably end up dosing the little bastards at some point. As long as I have a box of whippits and enough grass to fill the manic void of a headspace, it should be fine. That was my problem last time: no weed.
[editline]10th April 2013[/editline]
If I do dose it again, I'll probably cook up some potent firecrackers first. I'll need something warm and familiar riding shotgun to help keep myself anchored.
Also, having some Klonopin on hand in case I need to abort mission wouldn't be a bad idea.
What's a good scale for this stuff?
Getting LSD is seeming harder and harder (haven't tried it yet). Been wondering if I should look for more 25i (which I have tried).
Get LSD from an online source.
[QUOTE=Appellation;40240427]What's a good scale for this stuff?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/251256290901[/url]
[QUOTE=Appellation;40240427]What's a good scale for this stuff?[/QUOTE]
the best way to dose is volumetrically by adding a large amount to water, ie if you had 10mg to 100ml of water each ml of water will contain 0.1mg of the substance
[QUOTE=creative;40243658][url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/251256290901[/url][/QUOTE]
Holy balls, I think I might just stick to mg stuff.
[QUOTE=Appellation;40243793]Holy balls, I think I might just stick to mg stuff.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sentimental;40243766]the best way to dose is volumetrically by adding a large amount to water, ie if you had 10mg to 100ml of water each ml of water will contain 0.1mg of the substance[/QUOTE]
Honestly, if you have to ask how to weigh something this minuscule out, you probably should not fuck with it.
No offense to you or anything.
but my way is safe and easy, no shit look on bluelight and this is the way they will tell you to weigh it out.
[QUOTE=Sentimental;40243847]but my way is safe and easy, no shit look on bluelight and this is the way they will tell you to weigh it out.[/QUOTE]
First of all, I know how to weigh it out.
second, .1mg to 1ml is a terrible ratio, will not work for intranasal use or laying blotter.
third, like I said, if you are asking how to do it, for your own safety, and those dosing with you, just buy tabs.
First, So do I
Second, I didnt say to do it .1 to 1ml That was an example I gave
third, I wasn't asking I was telling someone how to do it and Id rather trust myself than some random druggie halfway on the other side of the world who manage to create a website selling it.
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Seriously what makes random people so much trustworthy than yourself, everybody on the planet started out not knowing how to do it, just because its dangerous noone should learn how to do it?
I was talking more about reliability anyone, due to the low safe doses of these drugs. I realize that the scales are in the thousands range, and thought that your recommendation suggested that that was the cheapest reliable scale. Now I realize that you're probably just being an ass.
with my way you just need a good milligram scale (get an actual good one, might be in the 100 dollar range but worth it) and good liquid measuring equipment which isn't that costly.
Not worth it for a one off use but don't cut corners when it comes to your safety.
Not to mention that you'd still need a scale for the solute. Unless you rely on the weights given by your vendor (have you never had any rc show up over weight?). And not any scale will do (a 0.001 g scale would have too much variance to be safely relied upon). 10 mg could be 5 mg or 15 mg.
heres a good source of info for the measuring technique I mentioned [url]http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/286239-The-Big-amp-Dandy-Volumetric-Liquid-Measurement-thread[/url]
[editline]11th April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Appellation;40243983]Not to mention that you'd still need a scale for the solute. Unless you rely on the weights given by your vendor (have you never had any rc show up over weight?). And not any scale will do (a 0.001 g scale would have too much variance to be safely relied upon). 10 mg could be 5 mg or 15 mg.[/QUOTE]
no what you need to dose the solute is a good dropper where each drop will only be a certain amount of liquid eg 1ml drops
and vendors often do have variance in their product weights and yea thats why I said a good milligram scale. 0.0001 scales are pretty affordable if you have a job
[QUOTE=Appellation;40243983]Not to mention that you'd still need a scale for the solute. Unless you rely on the weights given by your vendor (have you never had any rc show up over weight?). And not any scale will do (a 0.001 g scale would have too much variance to be safely relied upon). 10 mg could be 5 mg or 15 mg.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what I mean, if you find a TRUSTED vendor you will be fine. There is no point in buying all the materials to make blotter/nasal suspension, unless you are planning on dealing, or like me already had the scale.
for volumetric measuring you can get insulin needles, they work great.
[editline]11th April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sentimental;40244026]heres a good source of info for the measuring technique I mentioned [url]http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/286239-The-Big-amp-Dandy-Volumetric-Liquid-Measurement-thread[/url]
[editline]11th April 2013[/editline]
no what you need to dose the solute is a good dropper where each drop will only be a certain amount of liquid eg 1ml drops
and vendors often do have variance in their product weights and yea thats why I said a good milligram scale. 0.0001 scales are pretty affordable if you have a job[/QUOTE]
You are delusional if you think you can accurately weigh out something in this weight range without variance.
Unless you are in a lab with anti-shock everything, environment stabilizers, and an analytic microgram balance.
I'm not saying it is necessaryly hard to dose out this drug, but unless you are planning on making A LOT of doses, its not fiscally responsible
well considering there's a milligram scale on Amazon for $30 and it only has 2-3mg variance above 10mg (professionally tested with a $8k scale, for the record).
Indeed there is, and I bet that was tested in a a lab, on the very same table as the lab balance. A draft-free and perfect climate environment for weighing out materials. Unfortunately its not the case at home, and in those cheap ".001" scales there are variances. There is a reason its cheap, although I have used one with success, I can tell you it is NOT accurate below 50mg. I'd give it 5mg of leeway below 30mg and about 2mg at 50mg. The problem using these in your own home is that you have slight air currents, you breathing is enough to change the reading, and you do not have anti-shock tables, just stepping near the table (depending on the floor surface) can change it.
Another thing, most people don't know where to buy larger amounts of 25i, which is a good thing, but if you only receive 10mg, how will you verify the weight?
As a closing note, if anyone here is considering dosing their own 25x out, do yourself a favor and get freebase. You can trip just as hard, but the dosages are just a little higher. Like I said twice now, if you have to ask how to weigh these types of things out, you probably shouldn't attempt to.
Got my tabs in the mail today! So pumped to dose tonight. Me and my brother are each taking two hits while a buddy is taking 1 (550ug). Will post how it goes tomorrow!
[QUOTE=xSikarius;40260055]Got my tabs in the mail today! So pumped to dose tonight. Me and my brother are each taking two hits while a buddy is taking 1 (550ug). Will post how it goes tomorrow![/QUOTE]
So reporting back on this. Damn that shit was intense. Deffinately more intense than expected. Pretty fun though. Almost started having a bad trip but I recovered in about 2 minutes after going outside and having a cig so overall loved the experience and will do it again sometime. The visuals were absolutely amazing. Probably wouldnt ever go over 1100ug though cause I could see myself going into some dark places I dont want to be in.
It has the potential to be a very dark drug
[QUOTE=Anubis678;40284536]It has the potential to be a very dark drug[/QUOTE]
I know I cannot stress this enought to anyone looking to try it. Deffinately want to be in the best of the best moods before taking. And maybe have some benzos for an abortion if needed.
Music can make all the difference, keep some really upbeat music on. progressive uplifting psytrance is a personal favorite for moments that start turning dark
[QUOTE=creative;40289561]Music can make all the difference, keep some really upbeat music on. progressive uplifting psytrance is a personal favorite for moments that start turning dark[/QUOTE]
This x1000
Whenever one of my friends start sliding into dark thoughts and anxiety I usually put on some Quantic and all is replaced by light and joy
[video=youtube;L_86LlKxfiY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_86LlKxfiY[/video]
[QUOTE=creative;40289561]Music can make all the difference, keep some really upbeat music on. progressive uplifting psytrance is a personal favorite for moments that start turning dark[/QUOTE]
Infected Mushroom or Lotus are my preferred tripping tunes
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