• 25I-NBOME & 25C-NBOME
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[QUOTE=Mac2468;39843723]who on earth uses R as a variable?[/QUOTE] literally every chemist [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Phenethylamine_rests.svg[/img]
So does anybody prefer one over the other or are they similar?
[QUOTE=Jagur;39851905]So does anybody prefer one over the other or are they similar?[/QUOTE] I prefer C because for me it's less rushy, more colourful and calmer. Or perhaps I am retarded and placebo'd myself so hard as to think that blue will give me a calmer high than red. When I think of it now it might be just that.
I took 1000ug at around 11pm me and my mates were up all night, we watched the sun come up (he lives on the beach) we saw the water dragon fight the fire (sun) dragon was incredible. my Mates went to sleep but I couldn't shut my eyes, the closed eye visuals were too intense so I went home then went out an hour later with more mates. I was still tripping the entire day till I crashed at around 4pm. Never tried shrooms or acid so cannot compare although it was a lot more intense than the 2C I took a few months prior. I had short memory spans (like one grass rather). No appetite even after smoking a bowl halfway through. ~eyes like beach balls~ tl;dr was an excellent trip, but the length terribly puts me off, I just wanted it to end :P. Twas 25-I
Hm... LSD without the headspace... sounds interesting And by interesting, I mean boring
[QUOTE=Anubis678;39857444]Hm... LSD without the headspace... sounds interesting And by interesting, I mean boring[/QUOTE] that is exactly what it is. "cool pretty colours, but i'm quite normal mentally. shit, i can't even read the screen on my phone, better uh... ride it out i guess." [editline]9th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=AaronTAB;39841160]"R" just means "any old functional group." It's like saying "x" instead of a number.[/QUOTE] sort of.. R is used to signify unimportant stuff, ie if you were looking at a few molecules and they all shared the same backbone but different groups, R would be the backbone and you'd draw the functional groups. given that 25i and 25c only differ by 1 group, you'd be better off writing R-I or R-C...
What the hell do you do on a drug without headspace...?
exactly, never realised how important that was until i tried this stuff. i presumed it'd make you less anxious but it's the exact opposite. can't get 'lost' in it so to speak, you just endure it. that's just me anyway, other love it. ymmv
It sounds like I'd hate it unless I mixed it with something else. "Cool, can't do shit now. Awesome."
I was reading about on SA and found this posted: [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1439918/Pics/2013-03-09_17-21-44.png[/t] It seems a bit worrying, because there's not just a couple people backing this theory, but actually many people on reddit and SA so far.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;39857926]What the hell do you do on a drug without headspace...?[/QUOTE] copius amounts of bud can help a little bit, but if you are really looking for the actual lsd "high" definitely just get some real acid. It wasn't too boring for me, just walked around and got lost into patterns on everything. But lsd definitely trumps it. I think I mentioned this before but music + a group of tripping friends is all you really need. My friend married his cigarette then after a very quick divorce smoked it. I really can't explain how it happened but it was one of the funniest things I have ever witnessed on psychedelics. he was voicing himself and the cig, and just.. man next time I trip I should just set up a camera for our hijinks [editline]10th March 2013[/editline] Also, after smoking, if you over do it, be prepared to be EXTREMELY confused. My friend ran out of the front room we were in, ran all the way around the house, and came back, just to ask "what are we doing" I just said "tripping man, do whatever", then he just stood there for a minute or two just confused [editline]10th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=TehWhale;39858302]I was reading about on SA and found this posted: [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1439918/Pics/2013-03-09_17-21-44.png[/t] It seems a bit worrying, because there's not just a couple people backing this theory, but actually many people on reddit and SA so far.[/QUOTE] where are all these "perma tolerance" reports at? All the big chemistry oriented websites I checked don't even have a word about it. [editline]10th March 2013[/editline] phenethylamines in general have terrible tolerance build up (even cross tolerance), some people stay in a downregulated state for a long time. The guy said he kept trying to trip, which would dig himself an even bigger hole. Not saying that its not possible, but with only one report from a guy named "t3hST0N3R" I don't really believe he can never trip again.
The best site ive found to buy them so far is there [url]http://www.benzo-fury.me.uk/index/176_159[/url] But is there a better deal somewhere else? but also, should i get the 25i, 25c or 25b?
What's a good starting dose of 25I?
I took 600ug and had a really banging trip. About 2 hours into it I noticed the ground was patterning, the sky was splitting and things were beautiful. My friend pointed out the mud on my shoe and it was wriggling and moving on it's own. The algae on a rock was shiny and beautiful and moving like worms. I spent a long time in rainbow vision before finally coming down like 6 hours later. I don't know why this happened that time, but I heavily recommend walking in the woods on this -with a sitter-. I still had to puke to feel good at the start though, and at the end of the trip I was feeling physically bad and regretful and had to puke again later to feel well. I dunno if DPH will fix that but I'll ask Mindtwister about that. Also my friend took 600ug and commented he wasn't feeling anything, I probably shouldn't have but I gave him another 600ug split in half over the course of an hour and his only reaction was a body high. What's up with that anyone know?
[QUOTE=lunarwalrus;39862855]I took 600ug and had a really banging trip. About 2 hours into it I noticed the ground was patterning, the sky was splitting and things were beautiful. My friend pointed out the mud on my shoe and it was wriggling and moving on it's own. The algae on a rock was shiny and beautiful and moving like worms. I spent a long time in rainbow vision before finally coming down like 6 hours later. I don't know why this happened that time, but I heavily recommend walking in the woods on this -with a sitter-. I still had to puke to feel good at the start though, and at the end of the trip I was feeling physically bad and regretful and had to puke again later to feel well. I dunno if DPH will fix that but I'll ask Mindtwister about that. Also my friend took 600ug and commented he wasn't feeling anything, I probably shouldn't have but I gave him another 600ug split in half over the course of an hour and his only reaction was a body high. What's up with that anyone know?[/QUOTE] Some DPH before the trip should fix nausea as well as bodyload. As for your friend, not everyone trips at a certain dosage, and since it is a psychedelic not everyone trips at the same dosage every time, [B]a lot [/B]is about set and setting. [QUOTE=joe588;39857828]that is exactly what it is. "cool pretty colours, but i'm quite normal mentally. shit, i can't even read the screen on my phone, better uh... ride it out i guess."[/QUOTE] Well that's quite an oversimplification that doesn't even come close to doing the drug justice. Besides, if you are looking for LSD you might as well take LSD. Don't use LSD as the "holy standard of psychedelic drugs", every drug is different and enjoyed in its own way.
[QUOTE=alx12345;39861775]The best site ive found to buy them so far is there [url]http://www.benzo-fury.me.uk/index/176_159[/url] But is there a better deal somewhere else? but also, should i get the 25i, 25c or 25b?[/QUOTE] have you ever heard of safeorscam.com type that site into there
[QUOTE=TehWhale;39858302]I was reading about on SA and found this posted: [t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1439918/Pics/2013-03-09_17-21-44.png[/t] It seems a bit worrying, because there's not just a couple people backing this theory, but actually many people on reddit and SA so far.[/QUOTE] That's rather unsettling. If it's truly permanent, not just very long-lasting, then doesn't that mean that it must be neurotoxic? I have the feeling that this is just caused by people taking too high of a dose, but I think I'll still hold off on trying it until some more research is done.
[QUOTE=joe588;39863355]have you ever heard of safeorscam.com type that site into there[/QUOTE] thanks for the site, looks like they overprice aswell But [url]http://www.aj-blotters.co.uk/[/url] is rated good and couldnt found any better, going for it. Ill probably take the starter pack and try each of them.
[QUOTE=alx12345;39867401]thanks for the site, looks like they overprice aswell But [url]http://www.aj-blotters.co.uk/[/url] is rated good and couldnt found any better, going for it. Ill probably take the starter pack and try each of them.[/QUOTE] I've bought from AJ Blotters a few times. It's legit.
[QUOTE=AaronTAB;39864184]That's rather unsettling. If it's truly permanent, not just very long-lasting, then doesn't that mean that it must be neurotoxic? I have the feeling that this is just caused by people taking too high of a dose, but I think I'll still hold off on trying it until some more research is done.[/QUOTE]It could also be that, but measuring these chemicals is such a challenge, and not many people do it right. They buy 10mg+ bags of these very potent chemicals and then ingest an unknown amount. There's been more info posted on SA about this and I'll make a thread compiling it all later on. I'd rather people know about [i]possible[/i] dangers than to regret taking it afterwards. [editline]10th March 2013[/editline] All those websites will get shut down very easily if they're selling blotters. That's enough intent from the US government to say it's for human consumption, which throws it under the federal analogue act.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;39868301]All those websites will get shut down very easily if they're selling blotters. That's enough intent from the US government to say it's for human consumption, which throws it under the federal analogue act.[/QUOTE] It's truly ridiculous. It's like if people were crashing their motorcycles a lot, so the government banned helmets.
[QUOTE=AaronTAB;39869552]It's truly ridiculous. It's like if people were crashing their motorcycles a lot, so the government banned wearing helmets.[/QUOTE]Uh, what?
[QUOTE=TehWhale;39870224]Uh, what?[/QUOTE] Oops; I accidentally typed "wearing," which made it make no sense. You can sell the product (motorcycle), but you can't really do anything that would improve safety like selling packs of pre-measured individual doses, or even give dosage information (helmets).
[QUOTE=alx12345;39867401]thanks for the site, looks like they overprice aswell But [url]http://www.aj-blotters.co.uk/[/url] is rated good and couldnt found any better, going for it. Ill probably take the starter pack and try each of them.[/QUOTE] Not just overpriced, send you fake, mislabeled, illegal and dangerous chems. Rep is everything, ignore pricing when it comes to these businesses [editline]11th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=TehWhale;39868301] All those websites will get shut down very easily if they're selling blotters. That's enough intent from the US government to say it's for human consumption, which throws it under the federal analogue act.[/QUOTE] There is no analogue act in the UK, but your 25i is likely to be illegal anyway if it contains traces of 2c-i left over from synthesis.
I have done this drug twice now, in a dose of 800ug and 1200ug, and I want to share my perspective of it with you. Get a good playlist so you have some chill music to listen to the whole time. Take the drug about 2 hours before nightfall, and go and look at the stars if you can. DO NOT COMBINE WITH WEED! It turns the amazing clearness of this drug into a smokey fog. Make sure you have a pad/pen so you can draw and write, and someone to talk to. Also, the closest comparison I personally have for this drug is actually a movie reference.. To Limitless. Does anyone agree with that statement?
[QUOTE=MGinshe;39882167] Also, the closest comparison I personally have for this drug is actually a movie reference.. To Limitless. Does anyone agree with that statement?[/QUOTE] I used to get that with psychedelics when I'd get this huge inflated headspace and think "holy shit I am so wise" only to realize that I'm a babbling wreck that got excited over stupid shit now I enjoy psyches without pretending they make me smart
[QUOTE=Adbor;39912691]I used to get that with psychedelics when I'd get this huge inflated headspace and think "holy shit I am so wise" only to realize that I'm a babbling wreck that got excited over stupid shit now I enjoy psyches without pretending they make me smart[/QUOTE] Maybe that is what it is, but I feel that the open-mindedness you experience on 25i actually helps you see the bigger picture? Kinda like thinking outside the box with a little bit of psychedelic help, if you catch my drift..
Psychedelics make you much more creative, make you think in entirely new ways, make you recognize and constantly analyse patterns, see "background patterns" in your everyday life that you never noticed before e.t.c. There are many positive aspects to the psychedelic mind.
[QUOTE=Adbor;39912691]I used to get that with psychedelics when I'd get this huge inflated headspace and think "holy shit I am so wise" only to realize that I'm a babbling wreck that got excited over stupid shit now I enjoy psyches without pretending they make me smart[/QUOTE] Don't let your negativity do that to you, you ARE wise. Just accept it and don't hide from the fact. We are all wise, with and without drugs.
^^^ This is why I love you guys.. Even if I did just lurk for like 2 years and not post. <3
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