Pineal Gland, "Third Eye", DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) and Fluoride - General

like house says, everybody lies. [img]http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk225/aaronayl1/house-do-want_thumbnail.jpg?t=1242062229[/img]

[QUOTE=bethanygrace;30587524]Lol, the government. ...Lol [editline]21st June 2011[/editline] Thanks man :) [editline]21st June 2011[/editline] Sadly, the majority of the government's data is some of the easiest data I find to disbelieve.[/QUOTE] An oil spokesman saying any oil spill damage causes no harm to the wildlife I can discredit to biase, but when an article is written filed relevant doctors then it's not as damning especially for a non profit organisation (ok so the government does have a political agenda but tests on floride hardly factor into politics) The government may hide things and have cover ups but at the end of the day government are just like you and me, people doing a job and earn money, no secret agendas. I ask you this, if fluoride is made to numb our brains amongst other things then what noticable differences are there between people like me who've drank fluoride in their water for 18 years and people who don't?

there can be but tiny differences. dreaming can differ for people who don't calcify their third eye when they dream they sometimes dream about events going to happen in the near future, or sub consciously connecting to one another sharing thoughts which i experience this all the time but not dreaming about events in the future as much in fact that rarely happens to me but i have very lucid dreams

supression makes it so much easier to keep control, you should try find out about the radioactive fertilisers they put in tobacco as well, its the most active cancer causing substance in ciggarettes, i dont understand why the "government" would lie, its just pointless in the bigger scheme of things

you stick fertilisers on stuff to make it grow faster and better, dude.

[QUOTE=confinedUser;30591113]there can be but tiny differences. dreaming can differ for people who don't calcify their third eye when they dream they sometimes dream about events going to happen in the near future, or sub consciously connecting to one another sharing thoughts which i experience this all the time but not dreaming about events in the future as much in fact that rarely happens to me but i have very lucid dreams[/QUOTE] mang, i sometimes have these trippy as fuck dreams that seem so real and its always like some event thats happening in the future. ive been having them since as far as my memory goes. [editline]21st June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Plectophera;30596564]you stick fertilisers on stuff to make it grow faster and better, dude.[/QUOTE] its radioactive stuff real nasty i wouldnt use it on my cannabis so why would i want it used in my tobacco?? even though i dont smoke that shit just now and then when some1 else shares a joint they rolled.

It's a conspiracy, man.

[QUOTE=Callius;30590577]An oil spokesman saying any oil spill damage causes no harm to the wildlife I can discredit to biase, but when an article is written filed relevant doctors then it's not as damning especially for a non profit organisation (ok so the government does have a political agenda but tests on floride hardly factor into politics) The government may hide things and have cover ups but at the end of the day government are just like you and me, people doing a job and earn money, no secret agendas. I ask you this, if fluoride is made to numb our brains amongst other things then what noticable differences are there between people like me who've drank fluoride in their water for 18 years and people who don't?[/QUOTE] The government are not people like you and me. They are people with control over countries, with high levels of authority. They have secret agendas, they will manipulate, lie, lie lie, lie and did I mention lie? I believe that people who consume little to no fluoride would have a much more open third eye, and be more open to spiritual and psychedelic experiences, their dreams would be a lot more vivid and meaningful, etc etc [editline]21st June 2011[/editline] [quote]Ever since the beginning of the 20th century, all the Governments in the world have successfully censored and tabooed the aspect of spirituality through the use of psychedelics. The label of “Drugs” given to these sacred entheogens has made a major prejudiced impact on human cultures all across the globe. Surprisingly, even in the prominent new-age spiritual movement that our planet has been witnessing over a last couple years, censors the use of these psychedelics – the reason being the impact of the label “drugs” on their mind. The fact that psychedelics are our mind’s doorway to the divine realities and our connection to God remains a forbidden aspect of these entheogens. This article deals with the most controversial topics in the myriad world of spirituality, religion and mysticism. If we look back at the world history, we discover that the most ancient civilizations of human mankind have used certain sacred plants and drinks to alter their states of consciousness to enter into the divine realms that they perceived as the human connection to God. If we were to fully explore and understand the true nature of psychedelics, we would have to study these ancient civilizations and the role of psychotropic plants in the building blocks of spirituality, mythology and religion. The use of certain mystical substances has been mentioned in almost all different faiths and religions. The descriptions of the Soma drink can be found in the Bhagvad Gita and the Rig Veda of the Hindu Mythology. It has been written in these Holy Scriptures that the Soma drink allowed people to enter in the divine realms. In the early Zoroastrian faith, the mention of the mysterious Huoma can be found. It has been written that Huoma was used by the Magi and played a major role in most of their sacred rituals. The Bible itself talks about the enigmatic manna or the food that fell from heaven.[/quote] You can read the rest here if you want: [url]http://psychedelicjunction.blogspot.com/2010/12/ancient-civilizations-and-psychedelics.html[/url]

I was gonna call horse shit, no offense, this all sounds loony until I read about it, and apparently it is toxic. It has a low lethal dose but nasty effects at smaller doses. Checked Wikipedia for this but said nothing about it and the pineal gland. Oh well, I have an artesian well anyway, so I think I'm alright. I'm still able to dream, meditate, hallucinate, all that good stuff (intentionally and unintentionally) so I suppose I'm alright for now. Unless this isn't just speculation, and I haven't experienced unadulterated, DMT induced states yet. I still don't know if I'm convinced of all this, I've heard all this stuff is only scientific speculation, but hugely interesting either way.

I'm pretty sure there's no proof at all that DMT is made in pineal gland. Strassman theorised that is was, but there is zero proof.

I think that's why i have those future like weird dreams (don't wanna talk about it but just a comment i thought i leave i also browse this section from time to time).

[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;30596640]its radioactive stuff real nasty i wouldnt use it on my cannabis so why would i want it used in my tobacco?? even though i dont smoke that shit just now and then when some1 else shares a joint they rolled.[/QUOTE] it's probably really effective and the tobacco industry is pretty heavy on efficiency IIRC. as long as they can get their bills of choice passed, they will spray whatever makes their baccy grow the best.

[QUOTE=Sastion;30599036]I'm pretty sure there's no proof at all that DMT is made in pineal gland. Strassman theorised that is was, but there is zero proof.[/QUOTE] How would you prove that?

lol this is why my mum got a water purifier and made us use fluoride free toothpaste for a while, that shit tastes disgusting.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zV78IgXzB0[/media] Hit the lights, shut the fuck up, and listen.

so in order to avoid this fluoride chemical then start drinking bottled water

Fancy bottled water maybe.

I knew that all this water was burning my third-eye.

[QUOTE=http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_article2.shtml]And although Strassman clearly states that his ideas about DMT and the pineal gland "are not proven"[URL="http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_article2.shtml#note2"]2[/URL], many people have accepted them as fact. [b]As of June 2010, there is currently no scientific evidence that the pineal gland produces DMT[/b], much less any evidence for the more far-out speculations that Strassman makes about DMT being a chemical modulator of the human soul. When Strassman examined the pineal glands from "about ten" human corpse brains, there was nary a trace of DMT to be found in them. This doesn't invalidate his theory, since DMT is metabolized quickly, and none of the corpse brains were fresh-frozen. Further tests on fresh-frozen brains could be done. Someday there may be evidence that DMT is produced in the pineal gland, but that day has not yet arrived. [/QUOTE] Just gonna leave this here. Gotta love erowid

Picture of OP: [img]http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/jack-d-ripper.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=confinedUser;30600542]so in order to avoid this fluoride chemical then start drinking bottled water[/QUOTE] But then you'll be giving the corporations even more money maaaan [editline]22nd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Rick Ross;30636182]Picture of OP: [img]http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/jack-d-ripper.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] more like [img]http://skepticalteacher.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/its_a_conspiracy1.jpg[/img] i keed

OP more or so looks like a psychedelic gypsy.

As much as I want to try DMT and support the legalisation of drugs, I really don't think pseudoscience and conspiracy theories are the way to go.

[QUOTE=confinedUser;30589339]with our third eye many things are possible if we were to exercise this eye we would have power and strong power they fear if we had this power they would be fucking screwed out the ass and things would "get out of hand" so they try to suppress our third eye.[/QUOTE] say what now

No studies have proven fluoride has any effect on the pineal gland. That being said, a substance that is produced naturally in the body should not be illegal.

Awesome information. I just read the spirit molecule, and I don't remember it mentioning fluoride. The third eye tells use when we should sleep, so I'm not certain fluoride is in the water. I also think we would build a tolerance to fluoride pretty quick if it was in all the water. Anywho, after reading the spirit molecule I'm on a DMT binge. Shit's crazy. Really makes you think about life, death, sex, and anything in between. You also see fractals, infinite patterns, and the unimaginable. Really stirred up my life. Also after smoking DMT more than once in a day, I can't sleep for a whole night....

fluoride is perfectly fine in water, these scare stories have no scientific backing whatsoever. [editline]23rd June 2011[/editline] the spirit molecule is unfortunately nonsense too. we have no idea what DMT does in the body and even the author admits it's just speculation. [editline]23rd June 2011[/editline] if you stop ingesting fluoride and begin to improve your 'third eye' then all that is happening is you are strengthening your faith much like religion. if you believe it, it will happen. dmt is an incredibly powerful drug that completely rewires your brain so it doesn't work properly. you don't gain knowledge, you don't become one with the universe. your brain is just malfunctioning on the grandest scale. just a chemical reaction. sorry but that is the truth.

I've read up on this before after some conspiracy theorist at work told me about it. Found it very fascinating.

and besides, how do you plan on limiting your intake of fluoride short of collecting rainwater or going to a mountain spring? if there really was a government conspiracy to poison us all, surely they'd force the bottled water manufacturers to include it in theirs. [editline]23rd June 2011[/editline] or maybe the real conspiracy is that the head of evian water devised a complete work of fiction to spread round the internet to scare people into buying bottled water. hmmm?

flouride is toxic to your body. too much of it and you'll OD which in this case the reason why they took it out of the water is because it's already in some of our food but even if they took it out of the water i still do not trust faucet water i'm sticking with bottle water