• Sequelitis - ZELDA: A Link to the Past vs. Ocarina of Time
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Burn in hell Arin, you're dead to me.
I miss the days when GG made people wanna make animated shorts based on shit they said instead of wanting to make them hang themselves.
Am I the only one here who likes the new game grumps
[QUOTE=NoNameForEvil;45316744]you should play it and formulate your own opinions everybody seems to have different experiences with the motion controls, but for me they were pretty much flawless.[/QUOTE] The main problem with SS is not the controls, it's the progression, backtracking and half-assed design.
[QUOTE=Killuah;45324594]The main problem with SS is not the controls, it's the progression, backtracking and half-assed design.[/QUOTE] Well, motion controls to fly is pretty lame at the least.
[QUOTE=fudge blood;45319398]I suck at video games but Arin is a whole new level of shit. This is coming from someone who loves arin's videos and stuff and I'm not being biased at all, but he is absolute shit at games and is shit at being funny. Sadly, no matter how cute and considerate of a person Danny might be, it was a bad choice to put him on gg, since he's not funny either. Arin is pretty much not the same funny/cool person anymore sadly, it feels like he's just a pretentious, spoiled rich kid and it's really giving me harsh views at him in a new light now. Same with Suzy too, every time I look at her (and I fucking loved suzy) all I see is... a rich, spoiled bitch :v:[/QUOTE] this post, although i'm not sure about the spoiled parts since they earned their own cash [editline]8th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;45323667]Am I the only one here who likes the new game grumps[/QUOTE] yes
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;45323667]Am I the only one here who likes the new game grumps[/QUOTE] People still like it; we just like it [I]less.[/I]
I re-watched this with my sister, and you know what? It was funny. I don't even care that half the arguments were bullshit. It was a funny video regardless.
it's not funny though? it comes off like a bad jontron impersonation except 10 times more obnoxious [editline]8th July 2014[/editline] "'ooooh, acchh, dangus', do you guys like me again yet?"
where the fuck did people get the idea Arin was arrogant I was going to ask if it's "because he doesn't shit on himself all the time", but the thing is, he TOTALLY DOES. He's constantly talking on game grumps about how he sucks at video games and even how he's inferior to most of the famous Youtube animators. Are people just looking for more excuses to hate him?
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;45325602]where the fuck did people get the idea Arin was arrogant I was going to ask if it's "because he doesn't shit on himself all the time", but the thing is, he TOTALLY DOES. He's constantly talking on game grumps about how he sucks at video games and even how he's inferior to most of the famous Youtube animators. Are people just looking for more excuses to hate him?[/QUOTE] when he presents his opinions as objective facts (and before you say anything, at least i usually make sense (am right)) and claims to be knowledgeable on game design when almost nothing he says makes any sense whatsoever [editline]8th July 2014[/editline] if arin can eloquently elaborate on 'game feel' i'll eat my hat
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;45323667]Am I the only one here who likes the new game grumps[/QUOTE] I would personally love to see Jon and Danny or Jon, Danny, and Barry do an episode together if Jon was still around. The problem in the equation is Arin, and how he devolved into a beat-dropping spastic after Jon left. I'm not saying Danny's at fault for what happened to Arin, I'm saying Jon was what kept Arin sane and in check, and formed a sort of equilibrium between a bad video game player and a not so bad video game player.
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;45323667]Am I the only one here who likes the new game grumps[/QUOTE] I have a glimmer of hope that they'll make a rebound soon
Egoraptor must be such a pain in the ass to live with.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;45325752]when he presents his opinions as objective facts (and before you say anything, at least i usually make sense (am right)) and claims to be knowledgeable on game design when almost nothing he says makes any sense whatsoever [editline]8th July 2014[/editline] if arin can eloquently elaborate on 'game feel' i'll eat my hat[/QUOTE] I always thought game feel was just atmosphere
ITT: /r/GameGrumps Jesus christ guys, this is getting sad at this point. 11 pages of "Arin sucks at games bawww" and "Jon is much more suitable for GG than Danny is." Actually, the subreddit at least provided decent counter-arguments to Arin's opinions.
[QUOTE=conan96;45327168]ITT: /r/GameGrumps Jesus christ guys, this is getting sad at this point. 11 pages of "Arin sucks at games bawww" and "Jon is much more suitable for GG than Danny is." Actually, the subreddit at least provided decent counter-arguments to Arin's opinions.[/QUOTE] Congratulations you either only skimmed the thread or merely didn't bother reading it at all!
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45327182]Congratulations you either only skimmed the thread or merely didn't bother reading it at all![/QUOTE] In the beginning there were actually relevant counter-arguments. Now you guys are just dragging out the thread for the sake of bitching. Danny being worse than Jon for instance has no relevance at all to the topic at hand. Arin had a "holier than thou" vibe to him in the video, I didn't like that at all. But being able to properly counter his opinions without stooping as low as he did would be helpful to not making yourselves look like the strawman in the video. Can't believe I'm actually linking to the subreddit, I don't really like that place but here's a few examples of some good/actual ones I've seen. [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamegrumps/comments/29lazt/sequelitis_zelda_a_link_to_the_past_vs_ocarina_of/cima5a3[/URL] [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamegrumps/comments/29lazt/sequelitis_zelda_a_link_to_the_past_vs_ocarina_of/cim798i[/URL]
Maybe this video came off as a bad video for him, maybe he'll rebound.
[QUOTE=conan96;45327313]In the beginning there were actually relevant counter-arguments. Now you guys are just dragging out the thread for the sake of bitching. Danny being worse than Jon for instance has no relevance at all to the topic at hand. Arin had a "holier than thou" vibe to him in the video, I didn't like that at all. But being able to properly counter his opinions without stooping as low as he did would be helpful to not making yourselves look like the strawman in the video. Can't believe I'm actually linking to the subreddit, I don't really like that place but here's a few examples of some good/actual ones I've seen. [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamegrumps/comments/29lazt/sequelitis_zelda_a_link_to_the_past_vs_ocarina_of/cima5a3[/URL] [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamegrumps/comments/29lazt/sequelitis_zelda_a_link_to_the_past_vs_ocarina_of/cim798i[/URL][/QUOTE] Everything that counter the video's arguments have already been said in the thread. People are just keeping the thread alive by saying how much they hate Egoraptor now from one bad video.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;45328016]Everything that counter the video's arguments have already been said in the thread. People are just keeping the thread alive by saying how much they hate Egoraptor now from one bad video.[/QUOTE] wrong. Arin's been on a downward spiral for a long time.
[QUOTE=fudge blood;45319398]I suck at video games but Arin is a whole new level of shit. This is coming from someone who loves arin's videos and stuff and I'm not being biased at all, but he is absolute shit at games and is shit at being funny. Sadly, no matter how cute and considerate of a person Danny might be, it was a bad choice to put him on gg, since he's not funny either. Arin is pretty much not the same funny/cool person anymore sadly, it feels like he's just a pretentious, spoiled rich kid and it's really giving me harsh views at him in a new light now. Same with Suzy too, every time I look at her (and I fucking loved suzy) all I see is... a rich, spoiled bitch :v:[/QUOTE] I think Danny is pretty funny, at least his reaction to stuff happening in video games is funny, and if anything he's still an interesting guy.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;45328016]Everything that counter the video's arguments have already been said in the thread. People are just keeping the thread alive by saying how much they hate Egoraptor now from one bad video.[/QUOTE] From a [I]lot[/I] of bad videos.
someone should do a sequelitis of jon grumps vs. danny grumps
you know what sucks is that when the next video comes out, he's gonna probably reply to the hate with the strawman he built for himself again i mean i agree with him and i liked the video, but i know he's not gonna be able to defend himself properly in the next video
Ocarina of Time has always been a 7/10 game for me, 8/10 if I'm feeling generous.
[QUOTE=conan96;45327313]In the beginning there were actually relevant counter-arguments. Now you guys are just dragging out the thread for the sake of bitching. Danny being worse than Jon for instance has no relevance at all to the topic at hand. Arin had a "holier than thou" vibe to him in the video, I didn't like that at all. But being able to properly counter his opinions without stooping as low as he did would be helpful to not making yourselves look like the strawman in the video. Can't believe I'm actually linking to the subreddit, I don't really like that place but here's a few examples of some good/actual ones I've seen. [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamegrumps/comments/29lazt/sequelitis_zelda_a_link_to_the_past_vs_ocarina_of/cima5a3[/URL] [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/gamegrumps/comments/29lazt/sequelitis_zelda_a_link_to_the_past_vs_ocarina_of/cim798i[/URL][/QUOTE] "you only need to use the temple of time twice in the story" is a dumb as fuck argument, yeah if you want to zip through the game and not pay attention to any of the exploration elements sure you can do that, but if you want to actually complete the game and do the sidequests you need to warp over and over and it's such a tedious process that it discourages exploration altogether. Oracle of Ages is a perfect example of how time travel based puzzles can be done well, Ocarina got that completely wrong and i wish Arin had articulated that better in the video because it's one of the few very strong points he makes.
I like reading interesting counter arguments and debates, but personally attacking Arin (and Suzy too- what the fuck is that for?) is just unnecessary. And citing a perceived dip in quality in his animations and content is nothing to do with the points he's raising. Why is that even being discussed? Why does his music, animation or comedy have anything to do with the arguments he raises here? [QUOTE=codemaster85;45319597]its mostly because jon is also bad but knows hes terrible at video games. Jon wasn't afraid to call out arin's bullshit, meanwhile danny is quiet and goes along with whatever Arin says. In that windwaker video he basically had to lead arin to grab onto Valoo's tail with the hook. After he finally does it, Arin says its shitty. Danny tells him that they do focus on the tail when you enter the room and the hint stone tells him to look for something to latch onto. Arin just blows him off and is basically "im right because i know everything" and danny drops it. If Jon was there he would have a literal fight about it telling him how he must be god damn blind.[/QUOTE] You mean the episode where Arin said it "wasn't incredibly obvious" (which it isn't, otherwise it wouldn't be a very good puzzle) and then complimented it as a really good idea and said it's one of the most interesting boss fights in a Zelda game? He didn't blow him off all call it shitty. Danny didn't even directly tell him, he dropped little hints and let Arin figure it out himself. Which he did. There's a lot of exaggeration and attacking Arin for the sake of it. Yes he can be incredibly annoying getting all "THIS GAME SUCKS" when he misses something incredible obvious but 9 times out of 10 the game [I]does[/I] suck. I actually thought his idea of having a Goron buddy who eats rocks was really interesting. I'm all for interesting gameplay scenarios over dialogue, even though that dialogue was a lot of fun. He has a point the game is incredibly straightforward and simple. There's not many interesting ideas happening with the combat, it is just wait and tap. Ocarina of Time is a great game, but not for the gameplay. It was for the atmosphere and the story. But it was trying to work out the technicalities of creating the first 3D exploration game so you can forgive it for that.
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