• UN talk about how Pokemon is full of killing, D&D is Santanic, reddit and harddrives used as sources
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[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48777818]Well they're high because they're popular, specifically among feminists. Sure you have people like Malala (who refused to be called a feminist until pressured to by a crowd) and Ayanne Hirsi who gets called an Islamaphobe by progressive feminists but other than that feminism in the west focuses on some pretty pointless stuff.[/QUOTE] They aren't feminists, they're attention whores. [editline]28th September 2015[/editline] Feminists want all people to be equal, Attention whores try to look special.
[QUOTE=Psycho9182;48776162]I still remember all these other Facepunchers like "Guys they're totally just a small minority on tumblr that can't do anything lol"[/QUOTE] Or when anyone claims that "oh you stupid gamers are just worried about people with no power". And here we have a shitty report at the FUCKING UNITED NATIONS. This was a wank of the highest degree and there is no other way of slicing it.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;48779685]It pretty much already has, because so many people I know are so sick and tired of the whole word feminism thanks to internet and people throwing it around 24/7. The word doesn't really mean anything anymore, because people use it as they see fit to justify themselves even if they have nothing to do with feminism[/QUOTE] I know people who call themselves "anti-feminist" yet are entirely for gender equality. I suppose that speaks volumes about the damage these people have done.
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48780340]I know people who call themselves "anti-feminist" yet are entirely for gender equality. I suppose that speaks volumes about the damage these people have done.[/QUOTE] I am for gender equality too but in no way do I want to be associated with the word feminist. It has a really negative meaning these days. Doing that means sharing a group space with people like Anita and Zoe and that is simply gross to think about.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48781013]I am for gender equality too but in no way do I want to be associated with the word feminist. It has a really negative meaning these days. Doing that means sharing a group space with people like Anita and Zoe and that is simply gross to think about.[/QUOTE] That was my point... that these people have changed the name of feminism in many people's minds to be a negative thing, it shouldn't be like that.
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;48779566]They aren't feminists, they're attention whores. [/QUOTE] They're recognized as experts on feminism by the UN and TIME magazine, they're treated as the leading figures of feminism by thousands of people who have made their success possible. They [B]are [/B]the face of feminism, trying to deflect that inconvenient truth by saying they "don't count" does nothing to change this[B][/B].
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48781391]They're recognized as experts on feminism by the UN and TIME magazine, they're treated as the leading figures of feminism by thousands of people who have made their success possible. They [B]are [/B]the face of feminism, trying to deflect that inconvenient truth by saying they "don't count" does nothing to change this.[/QUOTE] TIME magazine is written by baby boomers who just want their paycheck, and they are just invited to talk in the UN. Don't get the wrong idea.
Feminism shouldn't be the face of equality anyhow, the name itself even implys differently. It's should be completely neutral.
This report was pretty laughable but I feel I should point out that the first two points listed in the title are false, and citing Reddit is no worse than citing Voat, 8chan, or Breitbart. It's already extremely easy to tear this thing apart, making up additional flaws in it is just going to make yourself look bad and clickbaity. Incoming shitpost from HoodedSniper in 3...2...1... [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48781292]That was my point... that these people have changed the name of feminism in many people's minds to be a negative thing, it shouldn't be like that.[/QUOTE] Feminism is too broad at this point, calling yourself feminist means nothing. Most people are for equality in one or other area.
from the UN report [url]http://www.unwomen.org/~/media/headquarters/attachments/sections/library/publications/2015/cyber_violence_gender%20report.pdf?v=1&d=20150924T154259[/url] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VUkhNCW.png[/IMG] so what citation is this that says kids are zombies? [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/htRTcpB.png[/IMG] Citation 118 leads to a bad Homepage from the 1990s, so i have to google the title to get the actual article [url]http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/New_violence.html[/url] Hey look, its the line about how pokemon is training to kill people. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BYvOPLM.png[/IMG] and saying that the games are satanic [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hx0ZZYy.png[/IMG] added bonus: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/49Leg2F.png[/IMG] and people are saying that they arn't becoming the next jack thompson.
the way this was written and the quality of the sources makes this seem like a report done by a sophomore high school student the day before it was due
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;48782100]the way this was written and the quality of the sources makes this seem like a report done by a sophomore high school student the day before it was due[/QUOTE] Hour beforehand more like. If it was the night before they would have caught the C: drive thing. And how the hell did at least Anita pass college? I'd be failing classes of I did that.
[QUOTE=Wii60;48781847]:words:[/QUOTE] I'm suprised they didn't rip and tear at Atlus, they made Shin Megami Tensei 2, where god is basically a huge asshole.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48782117]and all of this could have been avoided if people didn't make a bitch fit when sark did her dumb kickstarter but now she has all the attention in the world gg[/QUOTE] I dunno. The feminists who gave her like $200,000 kinda matter :wavey:
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48782117]and all of this could have been avoided if people didn't make a bitch fit when sark did her dumb kickstarter but now she has all the attention in the world gg[/QUOTE] I would be writing a book if I was her. "How to scam angry people on the internet for money"
FFS, Stop saying these people are what feminism is in the present day, [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai"]there are still true feminists in this world.[/URL]
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48782117]and all of this could have been avoided if people didn't make a bitch fit when sark did her dumb kickstarter but now she has all the attention in the world gg[/QUOTE] I'm relatively sure that's what they call victim blaming... the people against her didn't put a penny towards her anyway, so what more is there to say?
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;48782141]I'm suprised they didn't rip and tear at Atlus, they made Shin Megami Tensei 2, where god is basically a huge asshole.[/QUOTE] that would require them having some knowledge of what they are talking about
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;48782141]I'm suprised they didn't rip and tear at Atlus, they made Shin Megami Tensei 2, where god is basically a huge asshole.[/QUOTE] That would actually require them to put some effort in their ''research''. Another fun fact is that the current head of UN's Human Rights panel (Saudi Arabia) is one of the few countries of the world where Pokemon is banned, apparently not for it being ''satanic'', but rather for ''[URL="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1243307.stm"]promoting Zionism, Christianity and Freemasonry.[/URL]'' You couldn't even make this shit up if you tried. :what:
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48781678]This report was pretty laughable but I feel I should point out that the first two points listed in the title are false, and citing Reddit is no worse than citing Voat, 8chan, or Breitbart. It's already extremely easy to tear this thing apart, making up additional flaws in it is just going to make yourself look bad and clickbaity. Incoming shitpost from HoodedSniper in 3...2...1...[/QUOTE] But sources that defend child molestors are pretty reliable, aren't they assteroid
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;48782177]FFS, Stop saying these people are what feminism is in the present day, [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai"]there are still true feminists in this world.[/URL][/QUOTE] CH Sommers too, she's been talking about this shit for literally decades. [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Hoff_Sommers[/url]
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;48782177]FFS, Stop saying these people are what feminism is in the present day, [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai"]there are still true feminists in this world.[/URL][/QUOTE] Why can't both of them be considered leaders of feminism? Anita has proven herself to be an extremely popular feminist, this is not the case of an "attention whore" somehow getting enough ironic likes to get a two hour talking point with the [I]United Nations[/I], this is the case of someone who has beliefs and ideas that a [B]very[/B] large number of people support, if not actively than passively by agreeing with her ideals through inaction. It's absolutely toxic to try and stymie conversation about what's wrong with feminism by pick-and-choosing who is or is not a "true feminist" when absolutely everything has pointed to people seeing Anita and Zoe as "true feminists."
Great that governments are heeding these pathological liars. Mandatory brainwashing and censorship for all.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48782142]I dunno. The feminists who gave her like $200,000 kinda matter :wavey:[/QUOTE] The thing is is that causal sexism is a problem in the industry, and she tricked people into funding her.
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;48782415]The thing is is that causal sexism is a problem in the industry, and she tricked people into funding her.[/QUOTE] And the people who continue to support her? The people that continue to support her and make her a public figure worthy of TIME Magazine, university discussions and being labeled one of the "most influential people in gaming?" Like, are these people still getting tricked?
Well, in their defense, I did champion a demon for a while back when my friends and I played D&D 3.5 and I've had enough encounters with the Zigzagoon population to where it might count as genocide:v: On topic though, I'm kind of out of the loop with the Quinnkeesian situation. Someone have a tl;dr on what in god's name those two goons are doing at the UN?
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48782496]And the people who continue to support her? The people that continue to support her and make her a public figure worthy of TIME Magazine, university discussions and being labeled one of the "most influential people in gaming?" Like, are these people still getting tricked?[/QUOTE] "vocal minority™"
It's silly to say than Anita Sarkeesian and others aren't "true feminists". No one has any authority to say who is and who isn't a feminist. Sarkeesian represents her particular brand of feminism, and to her followers it's what "true feminism" is about.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48782142]I dunno. The feminists who gave her like $200,000 kinda matter :wavey:[/QUOTE] He's right though. If people had ignored her she would've gone away and probably faded back into obscurity. But then we had to make it a big deal which only gave her ammo. [editline]28th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Psycho9182;48776162]I still remember all these other Facepunchers like "Guys they're totally just a small minority on tumblr that can't do anything lol"[/QUOTE] It's okay because they aren't really feminists. How are they not feminists, you ask? Because I said so.
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