[QUOTE=Perfumly;46006006][B]What do you make of the intimidation tactics used by Lt. Vance @ 1:09:55[/B]
[editline]17th September 2014[/editline]
I'm not talking about the coroner speaking? I'm talking about them not responding to the situation as if it was a crisis situation? Why has every other shooting in this country been reported and covered so drastically differently?[/QUOTE]
because obviously someone on facebook is more informed than someone who actually knows what's going on
disinformation makes a situation like this far worse
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;46006032]because obviously someone on facebook is more informed than someone who actually knows what's going on[/QUOTE]
what the fuck are you even on about?
You can't be persecuted for spreading "misinformation"
I think for me to believe there was a shooting it's not unreasonable for the people to ask for evidence of a shooting. Which there is none.
This really isn't a theory that has to have evidence, as the shooting has no evidence.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46006052]what the fuck are you even on about?
You can't be persecuted for spreading "misinformation"
I think for me to believe there was a shooting it's not unreasonable for the people to ask for evidence of a shooting. Which there is none.
This really isn't a theory that has to have evidence, as the shooting has no evidence.[/QUOTE]
Until I can touch the dead bodies I don't buy any of it.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46006052]what the fuck are you even on about?
You can't be persecuted for spreading "misinformation"
I think for me to believe there was a shooting it's not unreasonable for the people to ask for evidence of a shooting. Which there is none.
[B]This really isn't a theory that has to have evidence, as the shooting has no evidence.[/B][/QUOTE]
wrong.
the person bucking the trend has burden of proof. show me real evidence that sandy hook was supposedly a massive government false flag operation
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;46006099]wrong.
the person bucking the trend has burden of proof. show me real evidence that sandy hook was supposedly a massive government false flag operation[/QUOTE]
If you want to play it that way then show me evidence of single dead body as oppose to just the trimmings that usually go along with that. In a way, the official story is a claim, and thus requires burden of proof.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;46006099]wrong.
the person bucking the trend has burden of proof. show me real evidence that sandy hook was supposedly a massive government false flag operation[/QUOTE]
If you watch the video all the way through it's plenty to question the situation, but it's pointless.
Believe what you're told, don't demand proof of anything. Live your two dimensional life.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46004805]you posted a casual classroom not "let's dress up because it's class photo day"
[IMG]http://puu.sh/bCWyI/7abdaea4f6.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Even at that angle it looks uncomfortable for her leg to be angled like that while the other one is in a semi crisscross. Maybe it would be easier to tell if there wasn't a out of place blur on the grass near her hand.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46006117]If you want to play it that way then show me evidence of single dead body as oppose to just the trimmings that usually go along with that. In a way, the official story is a claim, and thus requires burden of proof.[/QUOTE]
you want to give me money to go break into a graveyard and exhume a body?
cause i will
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46006121]If you watch the video all the way through it's plenty to question the situation, but it's pointless.
Believe what you're told, don't demand proof of anything. Live your two dimensional life.[/QUOTE]
so you're telling me it's easier to believe that hundreds upon hundreds of people were involved in a massive fake operation vs a tragedy happening
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;46006157]you want to give me money to go break into a graveyard and exhume a body?
cause i will
so you're telling me it's easier to believe that hundreds upon hundreds of people were involved in a massive fake operation vs a tragedy happening[/QUOTE]
In this case? Absolutely. It would be a lot easier than you think for the government to keep tabs on a few hundred people to make sure they don't talk.
Just show me one solid piece of evidence that a shooting occurred, one bloodstain, one picture of the shooter, one body, one death certificate, one crime scene photo of the adults who were killed, really anything.
There's no proof at all that the Sandy Hook shooting happened, there's plenty of proof virtually every other mass shooting happened. Why is there [b]nothing[/b] for Sandy Hook?
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;46006157]you want to give me money to go break into a graveyard and exhume a body?
cause i will
[/QUOTE]
Tickle me this;
If people did get shot, who cleaned up the blood? Because there seems to be no record of anyone doing that.
What does the federal government have to gain by staging a public school shooting?
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46006200]Tickle me this;
If people did get shot, who cleaned up the blood? Because there seems to be no record of anyone doing that.[/QUOTE]
i give up
you and perfumly are obviously looking for the reptilian illuminati answer to sandy hook, and unfortunately i can't provide that
[QUOTE=Raidyr;46006208]What does the federal government have to gain by staging a public school shooting?[/QUOTE]
Vast amounts of information, not to mention a foothold in the gun-debate? This all anecdotal of course.
[QUOTE=Sally;46006141]Even at that angle it looks uncomfortable for her leg to be angled like that while the other one is in a semi crisscross. Maybe it would be easier to tell if there wasn't a out of place blur on the grass near her hand.[/QUOTE]
Clearly the answer to this quandary of the slightly uncomfortable looking position of her leg must be a massive conspiracy.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46006226]Vast amounts of information, not to mention a foothold in the gun-debate? [b]This all anecdotal of course.[/b][/QUOTE]
Wow summed up all of your arguments.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46006226]Vast amounts of information, not to mention a foothold in the gun-debate? This all anecdotal of course.[/QUOTE]
Define "mass amounts of information" because that sounds like a dumb reason to kill a bunch of your citizens, considering the massive domestic spying apparatus we know the federal government has.
Gun-debate? Like how no federal gun legislation passed at all and was swept under the rug until the next school shooting?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;46006256]Define "mass amounts of information" because that sounds like a dumb reason to kill a bunch of your citizens, considering the massive domestic spying apparatus we know the federal government has.
Gun-debate? Like how no federal gun legislation passed at all and was swept under the rug until the next school shooting?[/QUOTE]
I think the idea behind this theory is that no-body was killed. And hold on to your britches, I am not fully convinced one way or the other. I wasn't there, I didn't see a body, nor did I see a reptilian in the bushes rubbing his hands together in a devious manner.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;46006208]What does the federal government have to gain by staging a public school shooting?[/QUOTE]
They've been passing legislation to keep a tighter control on the populace for decades. They painted the perfect perpetrator, a mentally ill 20 year old addicted to violent video games (And computers, though there seems to be no history of Adam Lanza's presence on the internet despite him being an internet and gaming geek??? Typically online gamers have online friends who they play video games with). Makes it a lot easier to pass gun legislation as well as a reason to keep an eye on mental health. His mother was supposedly a prepper (?) according to media. The real life witness reports generally state that the house was mostly devoid of activity and that they [b]never[/b] saw Adam. That's really all that was said, but the media twists things.
Why do you think they're trying so hard to pass bills to regulate the internet? If the FCC gains control of the internet in the united states and is able to censor it, it's completely game over. You will never receive any information that does not come from multibillion dollar media conglomerates.
Basically the government has [b]plenty[/b] of motive to see how well they can successfully stage events, as well as causing fake problems that allow the passing of legislation. However, what motive do theorists have? All that does is get you associated with a negative stigma. There is nothing to gain by going against the system.
[QUOTE=Falubii;46006230]Clearly the answer to this quandary of the slightly uncomfortable looking position of her leg must be a massive conspiracy.
[/QUOTE]
Hey can you do me the favor of not using a strawman? It would be pretty nice to debate without it.
[QUOTE=Sally;46006301]Hey can you do me the favor of not using a strawman? It would be pretty nice to debate without it.[/QUOTE]
Alright then, her legs looked uncomfortable. What about it? Elaborate.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46006282]They've been passing legislation to keep a tighter control on the populace for decades. They painted the perfect perpetrator, a mentally ill 20 year old addicted to violent video games (And computers, though there seems to be no history of Adam Lanza's presence on the internet despite him being an internet and gaming geek??? Typically online gamers have online friends who they play video games with). Makes it a lot easier to pass gun legislation as well as a reason to keep an eye on mental health. His mother was supposedly a prepper (?) according to media. The real life witness reports generally state that the house was mostly devoid of activity and that they [B]never[/B] saw Adam. That's really all that was said, but the media twists things.[/QUOTE]
No legislation was passed about violent video games or guns though. 3 states passed tighter gun laws that would have passed regardless of a shooting, and 10 other states actually relaxed gun laws.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46006282]Why do you think they're trying so hard to pass bills to regulate the internet?[/QUOTE]
Why does the government try so hard to regulate anything? They would be pushing these laws regardless of shootings. Especially when private interests that can easily sway politics can profit from regulation.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46006282]However, what motive do theorists have? All that does is get you associated with a negative stigma. There is nothing to gain by going against the system.[/QUOTE]
Psychological vindication.
[QUOTE=Falubii;46006322]Alright then, her legs looked uncomfortable. What about it? Elaborate.[/QUOTE]
The image posted by Venezuelan was to point out how the pose went, there for not being "faked". I questioned the explanation.
Besides you jumping at me with the random name calling, there's nothing for you to really talk about.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;46006553]No legislation was passed about violent video games or guns though. 3 states passed tighter gun laws that would have passed regardless of a shooting, and 10 other states actually relaxed gun laws.[/QUOTE]
It was all part of the plan.
[QUOTE=Sally;46006595]The image posted by Venezuelan was to point out how the pose went, there for not being "faked". I questioned the explanation.
Besides you jumping at me with the random name calling, there's nothing for you to really talk about.[/QUOTE]
Her legs looking slightly uncomfortable do not at all prove that a photo is fake. Also please point out where I called you a name.
Obviously it was the aliens that escaped from Area 51 that did it by brainwashing everyone in the area with swamp gas released from a weather balloon that was funded by the New World Order.
It's about as plausible as this conspiracy theory bullshit. It's impossible to debate a conspiracy theory because the person who believes said theory will just come up with a bunch of shitty excuses so that the theory continues to fit his narrative regardless of evidence or common fucking sense.
Seriously, try and debate some retard who's convinced that chemtrails are a government plot to poison everyone and see how far you get.
We can debate Sandy Hook in general like why and how it happened, what we've learned or haven't learned, its ramifications, etc. But debating a ridiculous conspiracy theory? Might as well be arguing if Barney is a real dinosaur for all the good it'd do.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;46007081]Obviously it was the aliens that escaped from Area 51 that did it by brainwashing everyone in the area with swamp gas released from a weather balloon that was funded by the New World Order.
It's about as plausible as this conspiracy theory bullshit. It's impossible to debate a conspiracy theory because the person who believes said theory will just come up with a bunch of shitty excuses so that the theory continues to fit his narrative regardless of evidence or common fucking sense.
Seriously, try and debate some retard who's convinced that chemtrails are a government plot to poison everyone and see how far you get.
We can debate Sandy Hook in general like why and how it happened, what we've learned or haven't learned, its ramifications, etc. But debating a ridiculous conspiracy theory? Might as well be arguing if Barney is a real dinosaur for all the good it'd do.[/QUOTE]
This just in, its hard to change people's opinions.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;46006157]you want to give me money to go break into a graveyard and exhume a body?
cause i will
[/QUOTE]
Who needs money to exhume a body?
I'm starting to think this whole ordeal was just so LordCrypto could nick some quick bucks from Perfumly.
[editline]18th September 2014[/editline]
On a more serious note, this is rather odd, to say the least.
I highly doubt it's all a hoax, but im'ma try and find some stuff.
[editline]18th September 2014[/editline]
Just saw the rest of the video;
I Whoa'd.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46006282]They've been passing legislation to keep a tighter control on the populace for decades. They painted the perfect perpetrator, a mentally ill 20 year old addicted to violent video games (And computers, though there seems to be no history of Adam Lanza's presence on the internet despite him being an internet and gaming geek??? Typically online gamers have online friends who they play video games with). Makes it a lot easier to pass gun legislation as well as a reason to keep an eye on mental health. His mother was supposedly a prepper (?) according to media. The real life witness reports generally state that the house was mostly devoid of activity and that they [b]never[/b] saw Adam. That's really all that was said, but the media twists things.
Why do you think they're trying so hard to pass bills to regulate the internet? If the FCC gains control of the internet in the united states and is able to censor it, it's completely game over. You will never receive any information that does not come from multibillion dollar media conglomerates.
Basically the government has [b]plenty[/b] of motive to see how well they can successfully stage events, as well as causing fake problems that allow the passing of legislation. However, what motive do theorists have? All that does is get you associated with a negative stigma. There is nothing to gain by going against the system.[/QUOTE]
I thought Lanza had destroyed his computer, or the hard drive?
And pretty much all school shooters have a history of video games / internet / the usual shit..
[editline]18th September 2014[/editline]
Also I have no idea about the 26 Christmas trees and stuff, that's beyond my level.
Oh, and now check out the [url="http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_connecticut_by_city_2012.xls"]FBI's crime report for 2012.[/url]
Notice how newtown has 0 murders recorded
[t]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/om5423694a.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46071155]Oh, and now check out the [url="http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_connecticut_by_city_2012.xls"]FBI's crime report for 2012.[/url]
Notice how newtown has 0 murders recorded
[t]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/om5423694a.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
The FBI's database has a habit of not reporting homicide over 11 in one incident due to some technical problem or something.
Thats what I read atleast.
[QUOTE]11. Why was the school completely demolished and rebuilt?[/QUOTE]
The students and families said that after the incident the school was to eerie and depressing to revisit, so they had a new one built. There was a whole news story on this!
And for the rest its total bullshit! I can make claims like these to any event ever? Why did I go to the bathroom for so long? Am I a terrorist using the bathroom to make bombs? Why was there no toilet paper when I went in but some when I came out?
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