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[QUOTE=Xolo;27893060]I dunno why you guys go so crazy over Couragedog, I live in a town of 900 and there's girls with way less dramatic personalities who are far better looking, so I can only assume you guys just don't look closely enough[/quote] Aren't you the one who hoaxed the whole 8bit thing? If anything you're part of the problem of people going crazy over couragedog.

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;27893840]What the fuck does 'piffest' mean?[/QUOTE] Google and urban dictionary to the rescue! [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piff[/url]

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27893853]Copyright is retained by the photographer even after uploading it online. It's not within your rights to redistribute copyrighted material.[/QUOTE] It is unless the copyright holder says otherwise [editline]6th February 2011[/editline] Copyrights for images are quite different seeing how no money is involved

[QUOTE=Xolo;27893877]It is unless the copyright holder says otherwise [editline]6th February 2011[/editline] Copyrights for images are quite different seeing how no money is involved[/QUOTE] Money does not have to be involved for copyrights to work. I can copyright my images even if it's non-profit.

[QUOTE=Xolo;27893877]It is unless the copyright holder says otherwise[/QUOTE] No, that's one of the rights you only get if the copyright holder grants it. You're allowed to use the image, but you're not allowed to redistribute it (Which you are doing by uploading it to this site) without their permission.

[QUOTE=Natrox;27893889]Money does not have to be involved for copyrights to work. I can copyright my images even if it's non-profit.[/QUOTE] I didn't say copyrights "don't work" if money isn't involved, I said they work differently [editline]6th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27893892]No, that's one of the rights you only get if the copyright holder grants it. You're allowed to use the image, but you're not allowed to redistribute it (Which you are doing by uploading it to this site) without their permission.[/QUOTE] Please provide sources.

[QUOTE=Xolo;27893897]I didn't say copyrights "don't work" if money isn't involved, I said they work differently[/QUOTE] It still doesn't give you the right to redistribute without permission.

[QUOTE=Xolo;27893897]I didn't say copyrights "don't work" if money isn't involved, I said they work differently[/QUOTE] And differently means a complete void of copyright for you? You're not allowed to copy copyrighted images in any way, unless the creator states differently.

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27893909]It still doesn't give you the right to redistribute without permission.[/QUOTE] If you can link me to a reputable site saying redistribution of images is not OK I'll cede you're right [editline]6th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Natrox;27893918]And differently means a complete void of copyright for you? You're not allowed to copy copyrighted images in any way, unless the creator states differently.[/QUOTE] No. Stop the ridiculous either-or fallacies.

[QUOTE=Xolo;27893897]Please provide sources.[/QUOTE] Wikipedia's own policy on copyrighted material should suit. [quote]It sometimes happens that users post text from other websites claiming to have permission to do so. Sometimes, images from other websites are uploaded and claimed to be under a free license (CC-BY-SA, GFDL, public domain, {{No rights reserved}}, or others.) If the external website does not have any indication that such claims are well-founded, it is a good idea to try to verify such claims.[/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission[/url] [QUOTE=Xolo;27893926]If you can link me to a reputable site saying redistribution of images is not OK I'll cede you're right [editline]6th February 2011[/editline] No. Stop the ridiculous either-or fallacies.[/QUOTE] He's an artist of art and music. You're a 15 year old kid. He knows what he's talking about.

[QUOTE=Xolo;27893926]No. Stop the ridiculous either-or fallacies.[/QUOTE] No. Stop talking out of your ass.

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27893938]Wikipedia's own policy on copyrighted material should suit. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission[/url] He's an artist of art and music. You're a 15 year old kid. He knows what he's talking about.[/QUOTE] I've searched over the entire wikipedia page you linked to and there is no instance in which it says redistributing images is not allowed. The bit you quoted cautions people to check that things really are public domain before redistributing them Facebook images are public domain

[QUOTE=Xolo;27893989] Facebook images are public domain[/QUOTE] Source

By the way, I'm not sure how being an "artist of art" qualifies him more than anyone else in a legal debate. If you're going to make an argument from authority, present it from someone actually IN authority.

[QUOTE=Xolo;27893989]I've searched over the entire wikipedia page you linked to and there is no instance in which it says redistributing images is not allowed. The bit you quoted cautions people to check that things really are public domain before redistributing them Facebook images are public domain[/QUOTE] No, they're not. You aren't releasing them with a license attached - so they can't be public domain, they're for use by facebook and facebook alone. [QUOTE=Xolo;27894008]By the way, I'm not sure how being an "artist of art" qualifies him more than anyone else in a legal debate. If you're going to make an argument from authority, present it from someone actually IN authority.[/QUOTE] He knows what he's talking about because he knows his own rights with his work. I know what I'm talking about because I'm one of the people running a large gaming community - which obviously means you need a little legal know-how about what you're using - especially when it comes to images and music. You however, are 15.

[QUOTE=Miktor.;27894005]Source[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain[/url]

[QUOTE=Xolo;27894041][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]Works are in the public domain if they are not covered by intellectual property rights at all, if the intellectual property rights have expired,[1] and/or if the intellectual property rights are forfeited.[2] Examples include the English language, the formulae of Newtonian physics, the works of Shakespeare and Beethoven, and the patents on powered flight.[1][/quote] Instant failure.

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27894009]No, they're not. You aren't releasing them with a license attached - so they can't be public domain, they're for use by facebook and facebook alone. He knows what he's talking about because he knows his own rights with his work. I know what I'm talking about because I'm one of the people running a large gaming community - which obviously means you need a little legal know-how about what you're using - especially when it comes to images and music. You however, are 15.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure this is the leg of the argument where you can't find any sources to back up your claims so you start the name calling [editline]6th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27894055]Instant failure.[/QUOTE] IP on images are forfeited if they're posted publicly, it's in the Facebook TOS

[QUOTE=Xolo;27894056]I'm pretty sure this is the leg of the argument where you can't find any sources to back up your claims so you start the name calling[/QUOTE] You've only brought up one source and your own source disproved your argument.. [editline]6th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xolo;27894056]IP on images are forfeited if they're posted publicly, it's in the Facebook TOS[/QUOTE] Actually, the only person you forfeit your rights to are facebook themself. [quote] you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.[/quote]

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27894069]You've only brought up one source and your own source disproved your argument..[/QUOTE] Read the Facebook TOS

[QUOTE=Xolo;27894127]source posted: Okay, so what can’t be copyrighted? Government publications, photographs, images, and such. For whatever reason, government creations such as this cannot be copyrighted, which means you can use these images for your articles and website, though it’s still proper to cite the source whenever possible. Edited: That's the sound of your argument crumbling [/QUOTE] [quote]Okay, so what can’t be copyrighted? [highlight]Government publications[/highlight], photographs, images, and such. [highlight]For whatever reason, government creations such as this cannot be copyrighted[/highlight], which means you can use these images for your articles and website, though it’s still proper to cite the source whenever possible. [/quote] That's the sound of illiteracy.

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By the way, images aren't copyrighted by default (they're under a creative commons license)

[QUOTE=Xolo;27894172]By the way, images aren't copyrighted by default (they're under a creative commons license)[/QUOTE] i congratulate your elaborate troll.

[QUOTE=Xolo;27894172]By the way, images aren't copyrighted by default (they're under a creative commons license)[/QUOTE] Which ironically is a weak copyright license.

That means if there's not a tiny little c with a circle around it it's OK to redistribute [editline]6th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27894182]Which ironically is a weak copyright license.[/QUOTE] That's a ridiculous oversimplification, akin to calling a bicycle a smaller eighteen-wheeler

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27894182]Which ironically is a weak copyright license.[/QUOTE] sorry to break it to you but you just got trolled to shit. good job.

[QUOTE=deloc;27894204]sorry to break it to you but you just got trolled to shit. good job.[/QUOTE] I'm still contemplating if he's a troll or simply retarded. I'm leaning towards the second.

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27894219]I'm still contemplating if he's a troll or simply retarded. I'm leaning towards the second.[/QUOTE] Is that what happens when you realize you've overwhelmingly lost an argument? You call the other debater a troll? lmao