yeah of course they're fucking sexist
it doesn't take a fuckin' mathemagician to see that %99.99 of all women in videogames are solely designed to appeal to basement dwelling uber nerds with no concept of what an actual female acts or thinks like
Though to be fair the writing in %99.99 of video games is completely fucking awful period.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29714414]yeah of course they're fucking sexist
it doesn't take a fuckin' mathemagician to see that %99.99 of all women in videogames are solely designed to appeal to basement dwelling uber nerds with no concept of what an actual female acts or thinks like
Though to be fair the writing in %99.99 of video games is completely fucking awful period.[/QUOTE]
well again i don't think that really means they are sexist
donald trump is a sexist
[QUOTE=Isotope;29714412]TBH I don't know about you guys, but I always run around with rippling muscles and glorious 6 pack abs, shooting guns and rescuing girls with my perfectly trimmed stubble and handsome chiseled features....... not really...
I don't think the portrayal of women is generally any worse than the male stereotypes [/QUOTE]
portraying men as all muscular isn't a "male stereotype"
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714422]well again i don't think that really means they are sexist
donald trump is a sexist[/QUOTE]
they're sexist without any sexism intended
[QUOTE=thisispain;29713871]hezzy is an ugly-ass feminist?
[/QUOTE]
Obviously.
Freud would have a field-day in this thread.
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714410]well sexism specifically means a hatred of women and generally it doesn't come across in an entire game because a large group of people work on them
but if you like look at like fan written story shit, that's where the sexism does come across
either way games still have a long time to go in terms of character development[/QUOTE]
Video Games need to find an audience that isn't comprised of drooling, ignorant, mouth breathing, inbred fuckheads.
At the very least game reviewers shouldn't approach things as simple as symbolism and character development as some sort of newfangled voodoo wizardry that leaves them aghast and unable to find flaws in the story. They have such low fucking standards it's pathetic.
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714422]well again i don't think that really means they are sexist
donald trump is a sexist[/QUOTE]
I think that creating a woman character who's role in the story is solely to rely on the player and to tell them how great they are is at the very least treading the line.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29714430]
they're sexist without any sexism intended[/QUOTE]
more likely they wish they could be with their creations because they get attached to them so they make sure the only flaws they have is that they have to be saved by someone who's really just the writer written into the story IE mass effect
[QUOTE=V12US;29714451]Obviously.
Freud would have a field-day in this thread.[/QUOTE]
you're parodying yourself right
like you're seriously not one of those people who thinks feminists are all just ugly female hippies, right?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29714453]At the very least game reviewers shouldn't approach things as simple as symbolism and character development as some sort of newfangled voodoo wizardry that leaves them aghast and unable to find flaws in the story. They have such low fucking standards it's pathetic.[/QUOTE]
right kind of like what that old fart roger ebert said
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714463]more likely they wish they could be with their creations because they get attached to them so they make sure the only flaws they have is that they have to be saved by someone who's really just the writer written into the story IE mass effect[/QUOTE]
mass effect is the very first choose your own self insert novel
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714469]right kind of like what that old fart roger ebert said[/QUOTE]
The difference between me and Mr. Ebert is that he thinks it's an innate problem with video games. And he has no lower jaw.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29714468]you're parodying yourself right[/quote]
Obviously.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29714468]like you're seriously not one of those people who thinks feminists are all just ugly female hippies, right?[/QUOTE]
I take feminists about as serious as 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Interesting philosophy on the outside, complete bullshit on the inside. As such, I find it difficult to take these topics serious. Now excuse me while I go dress up like a slut and listen to hiphop, and then complain about men treating me like an object of lust.
[QUOTE=V12US;29714512]Obviously.
I take feminists about as serious as 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Interesting philosophy on the outside, complete bullshit on the inside. As such, I find it difficult to take these topics serious. Now excuse me while I go dress up like a slut and listen to hiphop, and then complain about men treating me like an object of lust.[/QUOTE]
oh, you're trolling. you had me for a sec
also coffee guy you've said you were going to leave the thread about a dozen times now but clearly you're still here, rating posts. which is it going to be?
It depends on how you look at it.
I wouldn't really consider dressing in a ridiculous manner to be sexist so much as I would call it exploitative. Very rarely is an outfit created as reflection of how the developer thinks the character should dress, usually it's created to get the attention of the audience as easily as possible. Moreover, most characters, be they male or female, are implied to dress the way they do by their own free will. The problem is that this implication becomes hard to believe because it's often not something a real human would wear under normal circumstances.
Their appearance does not convey sexism so much as their actions do. Many female characters end up portraying stereotypes by what role they play in the game. You can't tell what a person is thinking by what they wear, but you can by how they act. What's more, the physical part of a character is usually not exploited as much as the visual part is, so anything that one might percieve as sexist is likely there because the developer thought it should be, and not because he thought it the player would like it. In fact, it would be a very bad idea to intentionally do such a thing, as people usually don't take kindly to sexism in games - when they notice it.
The fact that female characters are exploited more than male ones is also sexist, but not so much on the character's behalf as the gamers'. It's no secret that developers usually design games for males, with females as an afterthought.
TL;DR: A character's actions and personality can be sexist, their appearance alone usually isn't.
Urban Chaos' protagonist was a women, she was also black. They never played up to either of these traits. You just happened to play a character that was black and female.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;29714345]Call of Duty, if it included a female character, would probably have double D's and little to nothing on.[/QUOTE]
CoD4 had a female Cobra pilot.
[img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080707230134/callofduty/images/c/cf/Deadly1_4.png[/img]
DOA beach vollyball... nuf said!
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29714403]i appreciate your lack of input[/QUOTE]
Check out page 2 plenty of input from me and other people there. Almost caught your edit by the way, I'll try and see if I can find a way to retrieve the post.
I'm not sure why I'm still even replying to you, you're obviously too far gone to talk any sense into on a forum, I guess it's just entertaining to see what you'll regurgitate next
[QUOTE=V12US;29714512]
I take feminists about as serious as 9/11 conspiracy theorists.[/QUOTE]
i don't think i've ever been more insulted
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Folgergeist;29714609]
I'm not sure why I'm still even replying to you, you're obviously too far gone to talk any sense into on a forum, I guess it's just entertaining to see what you'll regurgitate next[/QUOTE]
ok
hello björk
[QUOTE=Folgergeist;29714609]
I'm not sure why I'm still even replying to you, you're obviously too far gone to talk any sense into on a forum, I guess it's just entertaining to see what you'll regurgitate next[/QUOTE]
that's the third time you've said you're gonna stop replying to this thread. wanna try for four?
[QUOTE=Honesty;29714633]hello björk[/QUOTE]
heh you did the trema
I can't stop man your bizarre views are too entertaining.
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714643]heh you did the trema[/QUOTE]
isn't it supposed to be with the trema though
by the way don't bother mentioning any of the posts on page 2, that might introduce a conflict with your argument.
broken auto merge
[QUOTE=Folgergeist;29714647]I can't stop man your bizarre views are too entertaining.[/QUOTE]
you sound mentally ill dear i think you need to stop drinking coffee
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714610]i don't think i've ever been more insulted[/QUOTE]
Are you a 9/11 conspiracy feminist?
[QUOTE=Honesty;29714653]isn't it supposed to be with the trema though[/QUOTE]
yeah but i don't know how to do it with my keyboard
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714660]you sound mentally ill dear i think you need to stop drinking coffee[/QUOTE]
Ah maybe. Thanks hun :love:
[QUOTE=V12US;29714664]Are you a 9/11 conspiracy feminist?[/QUOTE]
i'm a feminist but i am also a man and i'm not ugly i am a golden god irl
[QUOTE=thisispain;29714669]yeah but i don't know how to do it with my keyboard[/QUOTE]
silly american keyboard layout
[editline]9th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;29714677]i'm a feminist but i am also a man and [B]i'm not ugly i am a golden god irl[/B][/QUOTE]
hehe do you want to meet up later??
[QUOTE=V12US;29714664]Are you a 9/11 conspiracy feminist?[/QUOTE]
no i prefer coke
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