Probably the best way to take down a helicopter in Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - General

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26813554]But... It's the BF community shitting up in the BO thread. Why would BO community flame BO?[/QUOTE] Now stop shitting up this thread then.

How am I shitting the thread? I'm merely stating the fact that unrealistic things in one game are a proof of how shitty it is and in the other one it's just cool and funny. I'm neither flaming the game or people who like it. I'm using logical arguments against people who try to tell me that a jeep acting like an anti-air missile is realistic. I simply fail to see how am I shitting up the thread... unless maturely disagreeing with most of the people in a thread equals to shitting it up.

[QUOTE=MasterG;26819854]Why would the TF2 community flame Team Fortr- [URL]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80[/URL] Oh...[/QUOTE] You can't see the difference between a thread about a game on facepunch and an entire game's official forum. Oh...

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26819918]You can't see the difference between a thread about a game on facepunch and an entire game's official forum. Oh...[/QUOTE] :doh:

[QUOTE=Matrix374;26819961]:doh:[/QUOTE] You need that spelled out? Fine. There's a thread on facepunch about a game. There will be people ranting it (those who either played and quit because they didn't like it or people who just hate it cause they've read crap about it and don't even want to try it), people who defend it (the community that actually plays it), and those who don't care. Now when you go to the official forum, it's a different story. Everybody has/had the game and either likes or hates it. But it's not relevant as I was speaking about a thread on this forum, not about an entire different forum. Also the post I replied to with "why would BO community flame their game" was implying that only BO community was in the BO thread and only BC community is in this thread, which is false. It's not that hard to understand.

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[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26820103]You need that spelled out? Fine. There's a thread on facepunch about a game. There will be people ranting it (those who either played and quit because they didn't like it or people who just hate it cause they've read crap about it and don't even want to try it), people who defend it (the community that actually plays it), and those who don't care. Now when you go to the official forum, it's a different story. Everybody has/had the game and either likes or hates it. But it's not relevant as I was speaking about a thread on this forum, not about an entire different forum. Also the post I replied to with "why would BO community flame their game" was implying that only BO community was in the BO thread and only BC community is in this thread, which is false. It's not that hard to understand.[/QUOTE] i thought you were talking about something [editline]20th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly Sil;26820103]You need that spelled out? Fine. There's a thread on facepunch about a game. There will be people ranting it (those who either played and quit because they didn't like it or people who just hate it cause they've read crap about it and don't even want to try it), people who defend it (the community that actually plays it), and those who don't care. Now when you go to the official forum, it's a different story. Everybody has/had the game and either likes or hates it. But it's not relevant as I was speaking about a thread on this forum, not about an entire different forum. Also the post I replied to with "why would BO community flame their game" was implying that only BO community was in the BO thread and only BC community is in this thread, which is false. It's not that hard to understand.[/QUOTE] you know most threads i see you post in it would turn into an argument

[QUOTE=Matrix374;26820199]i thought you were talking about something you know most threads i see you post in it would turn into an argument[/QUOTE] That's because I don't join the bandwagon in most cases and I'm not afraid to disagree with people. Plus I use actual arguments, not a "you are a fucking moron" or an emoticon instead. And please. It's not my fault people are actually trying to prove that a jeep flying 300ft and acting like an anti-air missile is somehow realistic.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26820233]That's because I don't join the bandwagon in most cases and I'm not afraid to disagree with people. Plus I use actual arguments, not a "you are a fucking moron" or an emoticon instead. And please. It's not my fault people are actually trying to prove that a jeep flying 300ft and acting like an anti-air missile is somehow realistic.[/QUOTE] someone tried to prove that a jeep can fly 300ft with explosives? what?

[QUOTE=Matrix374;26820350]someone tried to prove that a jeep can fly 300ft with explosives? what?[/QUOTE] First I have to explain to you what I meant by saying there is a difference between an entire forum and a thread on facepunch, now I have to summarize the thread for you? Can't you just read it?

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26813361]I fucking love how in the Black Ops thread where a heli was taken down with a tomahawk everyone bitches about the game being "so fucking unrealistic" and shit yet in this BF2 thread where a heli is taken out by a ballistic jeep everyone says it's awesome and makes jokes about it.[/QUOTE] In black ops heli video ANYONE with a tomahawk can do this. You can't throw a tank at a helicoptor in BC2 can you?

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26820398]First I have to explain to you what I meant by saying there is a difference between an entire forum and a thread on facepunch, now I have to summarize the thread for you? Can't you just read it?[/QUOTE] i didnt ask you to do anything

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26820233]That's because I don't join the bandwagon in most cases and I'm not afraid to disagree with people. Plus I use actual arguments, not a "you are a fucking moron" or an emoticon instead. And please. It's not my fault people are actually trying to prove that a jeep flying 300ft and acting like an anti-air missile is somehow realistic.[/QUOTE] No-one ever said that this is realistic in any way, people are just saying that it's cool how they managed to set everything up to make the car fly in a way that it blows up the helicopter. In that Black Ops video, the guy just throws a random tomahawk at a helicopter and it somehow explodes, that only shows that there's something wrong with the way the damage works in the game.

[QUOTE=QuickSnapz;26820406]In black ops heli video ANYONE with a tomahawk can do this. You can't throw a tank at a helicoptor in BC2 can you?[/QUOTE] You can if you try enough times. But yeah I'm not saying it doesn't look nice and fun. Still... unrealistic things in BO always prove how the game is shit and they are cool in here. Just pointing that out. [QUOTE=simkas;26820440]No-one ever said that this is realistic in any way, [/QUOTE] Well... someone said this makes sense and the tomahawk didn't [QUOTE=simkas;26820440]people are just saying that it's cool how they managed to set everything up to make the car fly in a way that it blows up the helicopter.[/QUOTE] I don't disagree. But since I'm saying something which would seem like an attempt to defend BO, it means I do disagree that this vid was fun, and I deserve to be rated dumb cause I probably am a BO fanboy and BO's shit (apparently) [QUOTE=simkas;26820440]In that Black Ops video, the guy just throws a random tomahawk at a helicopter and it somehow explodes, that only shows that there's something wrong with the way the damage works in the game.[/QUOTE] Yeah it's a glitch, but so is this. Just the BO one wasn't as impressive.

The pilots reaction [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6l8Bw0Aes[/media]

Looks like something out of an obscenely OTT action film

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26820572] Yeah it's a glitch, but so is this. Just the BO one wasn't as impressive.[/QUOTE] No, this isn't a glitch. This is just a bunch of explosives put in one place to make the vehicle get launched far away and set up in a way that it would hit the helicopter. There's no glitch in that.

[QUOTE=simkas;26821123]No, this isn't a glitch. This is just a bunch of explosives put in one place to make the vehicle get launched far away and set up in a way that it would hit the helicopter. There's no glitch in that.[/QUOTE] I consider a possibility of vehicles being used as anti-air missiles a glitch. Come on, it's not supposed to be like that.

[ITT: We complain about realism in a [b]video game[/b].]

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26821688]I consider a possibility of vehicles being used as anti-air missiles a glitch. Come on, it's not supposed to be like that.[/QUOTE] What, tons of explosives in one spot shouldn't launch a vehicle far? A helicopter shouldn't blow up if it's hit by a fast moving object?

why are we talking about black ops in a bc2 thread oh i see someone's bitching okay the way i see it, both things you're bitching about are equally awesome in different ways, i think the reaction is just a reflection of each game's community

Would have been funnier if it was accidental, was still pretty awesome though.

Realistically, if an amount of explosives is enough to be able to send a jeep 300 feet, it is also enough to blow it to shrapnel.

[QUOTE=paul simon;26824716]Realistically, if an amount of explosives is enough to be able to send a jeep 300 feet, it is also enough to blow it to shrapnel.[/QUOTE] the jeep would be in pieces if you do that

[QUOTE=Matrix374;26824996]the jeep would be in pieces if you do that[/QUOTE] Isn't that what he just said?!?

[QUOTE=bugfix;26825195]Isn't that what he just said?!?[/QUOTE] yeah from where i'm from people can barely speak english properly so i get confused easily since i have to change from weird english to normal english

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26814969]I think both situations are impossible and nobody should care whether they are realistic or not because neither of these games were supposed to be simulators. But I guess that's not what you were asking.[/QUOTE] This is the result of a physical simulation. If you had enough explosives you could launch a car into the air and hit a low flying helicopter. The helicopter probably wouldn't like that. Tomahawk is the result of dev saying hurf durf axe does 10 billion damage. [editline]20th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Silly Sil;26820572]Yeah it's a glitch, but so is this. Just the BO one wasn't as impressive.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between glitches and emergent behavior. Tomahawk isn't a glitch either, it looks more like failure by design.

[QUOTE=simkas;26821839]What, tons of explosives in one spot shouldn't launch a vehicle far? A helicopter shouldn't blow up if it's hit by a fast moving object?[/QUOTE] Yes it shouldn't, everyone who agreed with you played too much video games and watched too much transformers. The amount of explosives required to launch a jeep 300ft up would also be enough to turn it into confetti. I don't get how can you consider this realistic. [QUOTE=BmB;26826088]This is the result of a physical simulation. If you had enough explosives you could launch a car into the air and hit a low flying helicopter. The helicopter probably wouldn't like that.[/QUOTE] Only if you are in an action movie. [QUOTE=BmB;26826088]Tomahawk is the result of dev saying hurf durf axe does 10 billion damage. There's a difference between glitches and emergent behavior. Tomahawk isn't a glitch either, it looks more like failure by design.[/QUOTE] Both things are a result of devs not foreseeing these situations. In BO they didn't think about changing the way the damage should be delivered when the tomahawk hits aircrafts, and here they didn't think that someone's gonna put shitload of explosives under a car so now when that explodes it sends vehicles flying instead of getting them turned into shrapnel. I seriously don't believe you people are actually trying to prove that this is realistic.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;26820572]You can if you try enough times. But yeah I'm not saying it doesn't look nice and fun. Still... unrealistic things in BO always prove how the game is shit and they are cool in here. Just pointing that out. Well... someone said this makes sense and the tomahawk didn't I don't disagree. But since I'm saying something which would seem like an attempt to defend BO, it means I do disagree that this vid was fun, and I deserve to be rated dumb cause I probably am a BO fanboy and BO's shit (apparently) Yeah it's a glitch, but so is this. Just the BO one wasn't as impressive.[/QUOTE] Uh, this isn't a glitch. Do you know what a glitch is?

[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;26830610]Uh, this isn't a glitch. Do you know what a glitch is?[/QUOTE] I have used the word glitch in a general way instead of sticking to the exact objective definition of it = all of my arguments are invalid. Damn, I even checked my spelling so this wouldn't happen.