• MASS EFFECT™: ANDROMEDA – Gameplay Series #1: Combat
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[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;51838484]I find complaining about the default face of your character is pretty pointless when the solution is obvious: customize it. A more valid argument would be the faces of other characters whom you can't customize.[/QUOTE] It just shows a lack of caring on their part
[QUOTE=gudman;51837288] Bioware doesn't seem to be much into this "fix the story" thing. Going off of ME and DA they're only capable of progressively fucking up more in that department. It's like they accidentally stumble onto something that works and then start applying effort to develop it, and it all goes downhill.[/QUOTE] Which is absolutely unacceptable in a Post-Witcher world, Bioware sells itself as an [B]RPG[/B] company yet the only thing they can manage to get right in their games is the combat, which is secondary if not tertiary to the genre. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6Hl02Ht.jpg[/IMG]
The worst thing about Fem Ryder's face, to me at least, is that she's based on a real person and looks nothing like that person. Just like Miranda in ME2 and ME3. What's the fucking point in hiring someone to put their likeness in your game if you're going to mangle their face and make it look nothing like them, and also look like shit.
Doesn't the Witcher 3 recycle the same faces for a whole lot of their NPCs? of course they'r going to look better, they had fewer faces to work on.
[QUOTE=CrossNgen;51839143]Doesn't the Witcher 3 recycle the same faces for a whole lot of their NPCs? of course they'r going to look better, they had fewer faces to work on.[/QUOTE] "of course a random NPC's face is better than the main characters face, why wouldn't it be?"
[QUOTE=CrossNgen;51839143]Doesn't the Witcher 3 recycle the same faces for a whole lot of their NPCs? of course they'r going to look better, they had fewer faces to work on.[/QUOTE] It's still comparing a random NPC's face to the fucking main character.
[QUOTE=CrossNgen;51839143]Doesn't the Witcher 3 recycle the same faces for a whole lot of their NPCs? of course they'r going to look better, they had fewer faces to work on.[/QUOTE] Are you implying that bioware doesn't do this to an even worse extent? Witcher 3 at least has enough variety to be somewhat difficult to spot if you aren't actively looking for it, and fantasy settings with different hair styles can obfuscate it even further than a setting where everyone has a buzz-cut because military/sci-fi. Let's not even get into the "I will destroy you." dialogue.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;51839157]Are you implying that bioware doesn't do this to an even worse extent? Witcher 3 at least has enough variety to be somewhat difficult to spot if you aren't actively looking for it, and fantasy settings with different hair styles can obfuscate it even further than a setting where has a buzz-cut because military/sci-fi.everyone [/QUOTE] No it isn't, I started noticing it by the time I was halfway through my first playthrough, it's even worse now that I'm on my second one. EDIT: While we're at it, what NPCs in Bioware games can you give as an example of reused faces?
[QUOTE=CrossNgen;51839143]Doesn't the Witcher 3 recycle the same faces for a whole lot of their NPCs? of course they'r going to look better, they had fewer faces to work on.[/QUOTE] That's not much of a problem when Bioware's recycled endings.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;51839189]That's not much of a problem when Bioware's recycled endings.[/QUOTE] Are you going to refute my point or just lazily change subjects?
[QUOTE=CrossNgen;51839197]Are you going to refute my point or just lazily change subjects?[/QUOTE] Three other people refuted your point, I'm just trying to go for a mad zinger here.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;51839104]Which is absolutely unacceptable in a Post-Witcher world, Bioware sells itself as an [B]RPG[/B] company yet the only thing they can manage to get right in their games is the combat, which is secondary if not tertiary to the genre. [/QUOTE] Well it's not like Witcher 3 is absolutely perfect in that regard... The closing acts of the game show some major signs of budget-related downgrades in writing/execution quality. Writing-wise Witcher 2 is more solid and consistent, although it's not open-world. [QUOTE=CrossNgen;51839143]Doesn't the Witcher 3 recycle the same faces for a whole lot of their NPCs? of course they'r going to look better, they had fewer faces to work on.[/QUOTE] Witcher 3 also features a variety of races/species individual members of which all have a large enough variety of unique faces (apart from a certain race that explicitly doesn't). ME's Krogans, Turians and Asari to some extent differ from one another via skin colour and some makeup. So no, "fewer faces to work with" is not an argument.
[QUOTE=LeonS;51837228]theres not a single character that looks remotely fine (except the krogan actually looks like a krogan but his backstory was written by a child). its embarrassing that bioware seem to refuse putting in any actual effort into making their games.[/QUOTE] Male Ryder looks brilliant [img]http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/11/08/screen-shot-2016-11-08-at-93900-amjpg-f9b485_765w.jpg[/img]
Remember how ME3 used literal sprites for distant background characters.
I'm pretty sure The Witcher 3 is going to defend the standard of a high quality open world RPG for a while. I don't think Andromeda is going to be able to compete with it on a lot of areas. However, that doesn't mean it wont be a good game.
[QUOTE=yellowoboe;51839574]Remember how ME3 used literal sprites for distant background characters.[/QUOTE] reminds me of the crowds in forza 5 [t]http://i.imgur.com/J7MARIc.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Swiket;51839632]reminds me of the crowds in forza 5 [t]http://i.imgur.com/J7MARIc.png[/t][/QUOTE] Even for a racing game, it's still questionable.
Ryder looks like a Gmod character. [img]https://68.media.tumblr.com/db1e3345989e873e297af39fc963cb30/tumblr_ohl5rqfodC1qj73soo1_250.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Reds;51839833]Ryder looks like a Gmod character. [img]https://68.media.tumblr.com/db1e3345989e873e297af39fc963cb30/tumblr_ohl5rqfodC1qj73soo1_250.gif[/img][/QUOTE] I'm calling it now. Fem Ryder is actually a robot with human skin made because Male Ryder lost a sibling years ago and this is how he got over the trauma.
Didn't the witcher 3 get flak for making all their women good looking?
[QUOTE=Reds;51839833][img]https://68.media.tumblr.com/db1e3345989e873e297af39fc963cb30/tumblr_ohl5rqfodC1qj73soo1_250.gif[/img][/QUOTE] The whole thing looks like someone fucking around in SFM. Worth mentioning that this scene from the trailer is one of the best examples of Bioware's trademark "leave most of it off-screen and make the character do vague motions with their hands so we don't have to animate it" technique. The camera even focuses on fuckface's smugness for good measure, probably representing the animator being proud of their sub-par work. [editline]18th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=xianlee;51839999]Didn't the witcher 3 get flak for making all their women good looking?[/QUOTE] I remember it getting some small-scale specks of shit lazily thrown at it for not having enough skin colour-related diversity aka any black people.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;51839573]Male Ryder looks brilliant [img]http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/11/08/screen-shot-2016-11-08-at-93900-amjpg-f9b485_765w.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] He looks like Adam Jensen, but in space!
[QUOTE=yellowoboe;51839574]Remember how ME3 used literal sprites for distant background characters.[/QUOTE] The worst part was they were even lazy about it. Like how there were just casual Cerberus sprites littered around the Citadel.
The absolute worst of that is in a scene in the leviathan DLC, there's a harvester flying in the sky like 40 feet from the character and it looks like a Duke Nukem sprite with two frames of animation
[QUOTE=kilerabv;51839890]I'm calling it now. Fem Ryder is actually a robot with human skin made because Male Ryder lost a sibling years ago and this is how he got over the trauma.[/QUOTE] You know, I could play male Ryder and throughout the game this fucking female Ryder will bother me, and then at the end she gets hit with debris from an explosion or something revealing a cyberskeleton similar to Terminator which is beautifully animated underneath the poorly animated 'skin' Then it would be okay and also be a mindfuck
[QUOTE=TheTalon;51839573]Male Ryder looks brilliant [img]http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/11/08/screen-shot-2016-11-08-at-93900-amjpg-f9b485_765w.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Which just goes to show that Bioware can't model female faces.
i never beat mass effect 3, (even though i beat mass effect 1 and 2 wit the same character, with the intention to bring that character into ME3) because the new engine made her look like dogshit, and there was no amount of face editing that could rescue it.
[QUOTE=Amakir;51840319]Which just goes to show that Bioware can't model female faces.[/QUOTE] The thing is they CAN... So long as all the planets are alligned, the sky turns red, and it's that artist's birthday. Jack in ME3 looked great. So did Morrigan in DA:I (besides a wonky appearance In one of the early trailers). So did Leliana. They're [I]capable[/I] of it, just most times they... Well... You know. You get shit like Sera.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;51839573]Male Ryder looks brilliant [img]http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/11/08/screen-shot-2016-11-08-at-93900-amjpg-f9b485_765w.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] MANLET [IMG]https://68.media.tumblr.com/81c8681f39898322478d7b9ef212b8e0/tumblr_ol1ksilcwp1tjgsdso1_500.png[/IMG]
wow thats terrible his boddy looks like its x0.8 the size it needs to be
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