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i would not be bad to you if you didn't OVERCOOK IT!
Because people are protected from a monitor and a 500$ plane ticket...
jeezh.
Sorry Skum, It's just the way we have become. People have replaced materialistic goods with happiness. I don't understand it either.
I can see where they are coming from though I want them to buy food or water or clothes with the money I give them not drugs or alcohol.
The money I give them I want them to use it to better themselves. Not to make them happy right then and there.
DEaL WITH IT
[QUOTE=heavy artillery;22326427]DEaL WITH IT[/QUOTE]
or else
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Instinct.
People work for their money, why is someone else entitled to it?
Human Society is based on cooperation of individuals.
What we consider "good" is what brings forward the little complexes we form with others, or the big complex we call humanity - and everything in between.
"Bad" things are parasitic in a system that is based on people being good.
So basically, these are the people who fuck the system yet thrive of the benefits it offers.
[QUOTE=MingusMajor;22317260]The poor are only poor because they were dumb, irresponsible or lazy, or their ancestors were. Prove me wrong. Besides, "investing in human capital"? What a load of bullshit, they're just gonna go down to the local market and buy some bling and dagga/khat/crack and live the high life for a few days before sinking back into the squalor of the lumpenproletariat.[/QUOTE]
That's the stupidest attitude I've ever seen. You're probably rich because you were born into money. The poor are poor because the system makes it difficult for them to get the education and credentials they need to get rich. And that works out very well for the rich. Besides, if someone had a deadbeat as an ancestor, do you think that every generation that follows deserves to be poor because of that ancestor's actions?
Lots of ethnic minority families are poor today in the States because they were denied the opportunity to get rich decades ago by idiot rich white people.
If I was given the option to hang out with royalty, I'd decline and pick the working class anyway. More often than not, Old money is the worst kind of scum, and you're a perfect example.
Its their nature. Humans also appear to be the only species who enjoy killing each other and other creatures for no reason at all. What bugs me is how they think they rule the world and sod the animals. because I'm not that sort of person, I'm almost ashamed to admit I am a human. Too many of them have grown to become parasites. I love this planet and the creatures that live there. If only Humans could stop being so selfish...
Then I guess we need a modern-day robin hood.
Because we can. People who have been homeless often have a different view to people who haven't (which is the majority of people). When people are in power, and I'm not talking about having billions of pounds or being able to command loads of people, I'm talking about the everyday power lots of people have such as being able to eat out, having nice housing etc., they take it for granted. It is partly the way we are brought up and partly human nature. The fact remains that we take our things for granted and like to look down on others simply because we can.
As much as I agree with you, it's just instinctive for humans to be selfish and greedy. Now that our survival is safe, the battle of the fittest has moved onto material goods. Those with the best items are considered the "fittest" of our society, and that position is glorified by humanity. We WANT that position. That's why people work so hard to buy their Lamborghinis and Ferraris. It gives them social status, which in turn increases their viability as a mate.
Sadly, the likelihood of any of this changing in the next hundred years is slim to none. Humanity will continue on its downwards spiral until we wipe ourselves out.
OP is very naive about how things work in the real world. Sure, it would be nice if everyone ran around giving each other hugs and shooting rainbow lollipops out of their asses, but the world just doesn't work that way.
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;22317150]mellow dramatic[/QUOTE]
get out
[QUOTE=SKuM;22323779]moral crime[/QUOTE]
lol
anyways it's easier to be a bad person. i am a selfish, materialistic, greedy person and i am not going to lie about it. when i work for my money, i am spending it on useless shit, and i realize i could help people but i don't care. maybe i'm just a cold bastard.
[QUOTE=CounterTunes;22317212]Why can't we be friends?[/QUOTE]
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Someone had to do it..
I thought this thread would be about people being assholes to their peers. I was disappoint. :frown:
[QUOTE=archangel125;22327945]That's the stupidest attitude I've ever seen. You're probably rich because you were born into money. The poor are poor because the system makes it difficult for them to get the education and credentials they need to get rich. And that works out very well for the rich. Besides, if someone had a deadbeat as an ancestor, do you think that every generation that follows deserves to be poor because of that ancestor's actions?
Lots of ethnic minority families are poor today in the States because they were denied the opportunity to get rich decades ago by idiot rich white people.
If I was given the option to hang out with royalty, I'd decline and pick the working class anyway. More often than not, Old money is the worst kind of scum, and you're a perfect example.[/QUOTE]
Old money are scum because of what exactly? My ancestors were fucking awesome, and amply rewarded for services rendered to king and country. So go ahead and tell me about your illustrious lineage of working class filth, sleepwalking towards their death doing the same shit day in and day out. Besides, slavery ended 145 years ago, get over yourself!
You poor people are so shallow.
Ignorance is bliss.
Sometimes I'm really cool towards my little brother, playing wii with him, and letting him watch me play r-rated games, but sometimes I'm just a dick towards him, making him get stuff for me, calling him stuff and beating him (not hard, but hard enough)
I always feel kinda bad after being that way, but I never apologize :frown:
[QUOTE=MingusMajor;22317260]The poor are only poor because they were dumb, irresponsible or lazy, or their ancestors were. Prove me wrong. Besides, "investing in human capital"? What a load of bullshit, they're just gonna go down to the local market and buy some bling and dagga/khat/crack and live the high life for a few days before sinking back into the squalor of the lumpenproletariat.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck dude? Have you ever actually talked to a homeless man before or are you so insulated from the real world that you prefer not to deal with the filth and scum of the bottom of the social food chain? Do you have [I]any idea[/I] how truly out of touch with reality you are?
First of all, you assume that those in poverty are only there because of their own wrongdoing, which is so unbelievably ignorant that I have a hard time believing that you're not trolling me. I guarantee that you have never had to do manual labour for more than 12 hours a day to feed yourself. I can guarantee that you've never had to go without food for days on end. And I can sure as [B]shit[/B] be sure that you're never had to worry about your own life because you make less than 35 cents a day doing HARD physical labour and you can't afford the medicine to protect yourself from the rampant disease in the food and water you eat and drink. According to your logic, just because you're unlucky enough to be born in the 90% of the population that can't afford proper food, water, and medicine means that you deserve what's coming to you. When said from the mouth of a person whose had it easy their entire life, I hope you realize how much of a selfish asshole you are.
You also assume that all poor are drug addicts who can't make decisions for themselves. By doing this, you ignore all of those in need in countless countries in Africa, South America, Eastern Europe, South East Asia, and the Middle East, who [I]could not afford[/I] "bling" and drugs without starving to death. I mean, do you honestly believe that all of those in poverty are just drug addicts who spend all of their money on gold chains and crack cocaine? I concede the point that there's an epidemic of drug use in the American poor, but you ignore those with latent mental disorders, those who are illiterate and are unable to acquire an education, and those living in societies that makes it literally impossible to acquire the kind of wealth you're talking about by lumping everybody who doesn't have a 401k and makes over 100 grand a year into the stereotype of "ghetto druggie spics and niggers." Get your head out of your ass dude, and don't assume about things you've never experienced first hand before.
People want to be better than others.
We are made to kill, just like any other animal.
[QUOTE=SKuM;22382708]What the fuck dude? Have you ever actually talked to a homeless man before or are you so insulated from the real world that you prefer not to deal with the filth and scum of the bottom of the social food chain? Do you have [I]any idea[/I] how truly out of touch with reality you are?
First of all, you assume that those in poverty are only there because of their own wrongdoing, which is so unbelievably ignorant that I have a hard time believing that you're not trolling me. I guarantee that you have never had to do manual labour for more than 12 hours a day to feed yourself. I can guarantee that you've never had to go without food for days on end. And I can sure as [B]shit[/B] be sure that you're never had to worry about your own life because you make less than 35 cents a day doing HARD physical labour and you can't afford the medicine to protect yourself from the rampant disease in the food and water you eat and drink. According to your logic, just because you're unlucky enough to be born in the 90% of the population that can't afford proper food, water, and medicine means that you deserve what's coming to you. When said from the mouth of a person whose had it easy their entire life, I hope you realize how much of a selfish asshole you are.
You also assume that all poor are drug addicts who can't make decisions for themselves. By doing this, you ignore all of those in need in countless countries in Africa, South America, Eastern Europe, South East Asia, and the Middle East, who [I]could not afford[/I] "bling" and drugs without starving to death. I mean, do you honestly believe that all of those in poverty are just drug addicts who spend all of their money on gold chains and crack cocaine? I concede the point that there's an epidemic of drug use in the American poor, but you ignore those with latent mental disorders, those who are illiterate and are unable to acquire an education, and those living in societies that makes it literally impossible to acquire the kind of wealth you're talking about by lumping everybody who doesn't have a 401k and makes over 100 grand a year into the stereotype of "ghetto druggie spics and niggers." Get your head out of your ass dude, and don't assume about things you've never experienced first hand before.[/QUOTE]
Well, you can't blame me for not wanting to hobnob with the poor, they have all kinds of diseases. Besides, it's never impossible to acquire wealth unless you're incompetent. Look at the BEE executives in South Africa. Or Johnny Cochran for that matter.
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If I gave you $1,000 would you give it all to one person on the streets?
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No. Not unless I was completely certain on what they would buy e.g. rent on an apartment and clothes/food etc > get job > get the ball rolling for a better life and not drugs and shit.
Man is selfish by nature. Without selfishness, we would have no crime and no wars.
Because of selfishness, everyone thinks what they believe in is right, and refuse to believe anyone else. And thus, extremist religious groups are born.
Because of selfishness, we envy the rich, which again sparks greed, which causes people to do crimes.
Because of selfishness, we want more power. We want everyone to do as we say.
There is nothing we can do about human nature. Not yet, anyways. Not before genetic engineering develops to a level where we can alter basic human instincts.
I believe selfishness will bring the destruction of mankind. Selfishness will cost us our lives, eventually.
I could write a whole book about how mankind is selfish and why it brings doom with it, but I'm not going to. Because nobody would give a damn. All I can say is that if everyone believed in karma, the world would be a better place.
[QUOTE=MingusMajor;22390613]Well, you can't blame me for not wanting to hobnob with the poor, they have all kinds of diseases. Besides, it's never impossible to acquire wealth unless you're incompetent. Look at the BEE executives in South Africa. Or Johnny Cochran for that matter.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to invent a hypothetical situation for you (which is firmly rooted in reality, so don't try and dismiss it by saying how it could never happen) and ask you how one is supposed to be blamed for their own incompetence by being in the situation they're in.
You are born to a family of eight in a small farming village of the Bihar district of India. Due to the less than 50% literacy rate of the state's population, neither your father nor your mother can read or write, and are only knowledgeable in the cultivation of mangoes and cauliflower. At the age of four, your family enlists you to begin working on the family farm, picking weeds off the fields and carrying the baskets of crops to the market place. Because your family depends on you to help on the farm and help feed the rest of your brothers and sisters because more than two thirds of your family suffers from malnutrition, you are unable to leave to one of India's larger cities and get a higher education. At the age of sixteen, your father dies of tuberculosis due to lack of medical care (a preventable disease, mind you) and your eldest brother is forced to take control of the family farm. A year later, he dies of diarrhea due to contaminated water, and you are forced to head the family farm.
You run the farm for the next decade, unable to leave your hometown because you are forced to continue to sell your mango and cauliflower crops to feed your four sisters. You marry and have a half dozen children, because you desperately need more labour to help on the farm because your youngest sister becomes deathly sick because your sole source of water is a dumping spot for another town's fecal wastes a mile upsteam, and the medicine to save her life costs $5 a week, which is $3.50 more than you make. You are unable to come up with the extra three dollars and fifty cents a week that it costs to save your own family member's life, and she dies. Two years later, you get sick from malaria and die. You are 27.
Tell me where in the [B]fuck[/B] you were poor because of your own incompetence or negligence.
[QUOTE=SKuM;22397883]I'm going to invent a hypothetical situation for you (which is firmly rooted in reality, so don't try and dismiss it by saying how it could never happen) and ask you how one is supposed to be blamed for their own incompetence by being in the situation they're in.
You are born to a family of eight in a small farming village of the Bihar district of India. Due to the less than 50% literacy rate of the state's population, neither your father nor your mother can read or write, and are only knowledgeable in the cultivation of mangoes and cauliflower. At the age of four, your family enlists you to begin working on the family farm, picking weeds off the fields and carrying the baskets of crops to the market place. Because your family depends on you to help on the farm and help feed the rest of your brothers and sisters because more than two thirds of your family suffers from malnutrition, you are unable to leave to one of India's larger cities and get a higher education. At the age of sixteen, your father dies of tuberculosis due to lack of medical care (a preventable disease, mind you) and your eldest brother is forced to take control of the family farm. A year later, he dies of diarrhea due to contaminated water, and you are forced to head the family farm.
You run the farm for the next decade, unable to leave your hometown because you are forced to continue to sell your mango and cauliflower crops to feed your four sisters. You marry and have a half dozen children, because you desperately need more labour to help on the farm because your youngest sister becomes deathly sick because your sole source of water is a dumping spot for another town's fecal wastes a mile upsteam, and the medicine to save her life costs $5 a week, which is $3.50 more than you make. You are unable to come up with the extra three dollars and fifty cents a week that it costs to save your own family member's life, and she dies. Two years later, you get sick from malaria and die. You are 27.
The me where in the [B]fuck[/B] you were poor because of your own incompetence or negligence.[/QUOTE]
Well, as soon as my elder brother died I'd move to Calcutta and take my sisters with me. Being MY sisters, they're most likely attractive, so I would then start pimping them out, preferably to cops and politicians and the like for blackmail opportunities to get the ball rolling. And so on and so forth.
Have you ever considered moving to Cuba?
[QUOTE=MingusMajor;22411413]Well, as soon as my elder brother died I'd move to Calcutta and take my sisters with me. Being MY sisters, they're most likely attractive, so I would then start pimping them out, preferably to cops and politicians and the like for blackmail opportunities to get the ball rolling. And so on and so forth.[/QUOTE]
And what are the people with morals supposed to do? I mean, the people who don't force their sisters to fuck people they've never met before so they can finance their brother's extravagant lifestyle.
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