[QUOTE=aridpheonix;17114187]My uncle is a millionaire who makes a living as a psychologist. He once told me the only thing that sets us apart from every single other species on this planet is the concept of morality. Removing that from laws would classify us as animals, no better than the monkeys swinging in the trees of africa.[/QUOTE]
Regardless of your uncle, morality doesn't exist. We are animals. We're different and civilized because of our brains, not because of our morality.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17114220]Regardless of your uncle, morality doesn't exist. We are animals. We're different and civilized because of our brains, not because of our morality.[/QUOTE]
Biological leash. Dumbass(possibly depending on your meaning).
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114184]Drugs wouldn't get "spread" if they were distributed by the government.[/QUOTE]
But that's how drugs started out. Used medically, they actually did very well at treating what they were meant to treat. Then people abused them. And here we are, a major problem on our hands. I would agree with, but most people just don't have that self control, or are too ignorant.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17114160]Obviously his argument is air tight and we're all wrong. We should stop people from doing anything bad in their lives, anything bad at all.[/QUOTE]
Anything that is lethal or severly detrimental to their health or the people around them. Yes.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17114121]
The [B]flaw[/B] in your logic is that you [B]assume[/B] people are [B]stupid enough[/B] to [B]completely disregard[/B] everything about [B]meth[/B][/QUOTE]
I didn't say they would completely disregard the negatives about meth, all I said was they would be more likely to try it because it's easy to obtain and legal. A person may try it, like it, say "ill do it one more time" and they end up getting killed from it. It does happen where it is very hard to get, and relatively expensive, why don't you think it can happen easier where it is cheaper and very easy to obtain?
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114134]You've yet to acknowledge that you are an advocate for thought crime and fascism.[/QUOTE]
Because I'm not, you are trying to relate me to something I have no connection to.
Prevention of crime before it ever happens isn't necessarily thought crime, and it certainly isn't facism.
Here's an analogy for you. Why should be ban explosives if many people don't want to harm their country or anyone around them? They should be able to do what they want right? Me wanting to ban some explosives because they will inevitably be used for mass killings is not a thought crime, neither is me wanting to ban some drugs because they will inevitably cause people to kill other people for money to get those drugs.
[QUOTE=esrande;17108327]So i can go fuck some kids, and it should be legal because it's only based on morals? :haw:
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Fucking 12chan members
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114232']But that's how drugs started out. Used medically, they actually did very well at treating what they were meant to treat. Then people abused them. And here we are, a major problem on our hands. I would agree with, but most people just don't have that self control, or are too ignorant.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and there were no drug cartels when they were legal.
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Who the fuck CARES if people abuse them.
It isn't your fucking business.
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[QUOTE=Oecleus;17114237]Because I'm not, you are trying to relate me to something I have no connection to.
Prevention of crime before it ever happens isn't necessarily thought crime, and it certainly isn't facism.
Here's an analogy for you. Why should be ban explosives if many people don't want to harm their country or anyone around them? They should be able to do what they want right? Me wanting to ban some explosives because they will inevitably be used for mass killings is not a thought crime, neither is me wanting to ban some drugs because they will inevitably cause people to kill other people for money to get those drugs.[/QUOTE]
We do not prevent crime. That is illegal and unconstitutional.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114240]Who the fuck CARES if people abuse them.
It isn't your fucking business.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious? Here you are complaining about how thick I am and you can't remember what I said a page or two ago.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114240]Yeah, and there were no drug cartels when they were legal.[/QUOTE]
Yes and no. People began to find ways of getting excess amounts. There was no need for drug dealers when they were legal because people could just buy as much as they wanted. The problem was there as soon as people began to abuse. It just wasn't as obvious.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114240]We do not prevent crime. That is illegal and unconstitutional.[/QUOTE]
Why prohibit the sale of certain explosives?
...The amount of stupidity you have is ridiculous.
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114276']Yes and no. People began to find ways of getting excess amounts. There was no need for drug dealers when they were legal because people could just buy as much as they wanted. The problem was there as soon as people began to abuse. It just wasn't as obvious.[/QUOTE]
Who the fuck cares if people abuse drugs.
Murder, rape and theft are already illegal. Conspiracy to commit is already illegal. Drugs do not turn people into uncontrollable monsters.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114240]Who the fuck CARES if people abuse them.
It isn't your fucking business.[/QUOTE]
People abuse them, harm others, and become a burden on society.
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114276']Yes and no. People began to find ways of getting excess amounts. There was no need for drug dealers when they were legal because people could just buy as much as they wanted. The problem was there as soon as people began to abuse. It just wasn't as obvious.[/QUOTE]
Who cares if they abuse them. That's their right. Not yours to stop them.
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[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114298']People abuse them, harm others, and become a burden on society.[/QUOTE]
That's already illegal. Who cares why they do it, it's illegal. Anyone in jail is a burden on society.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17114302]Who cares if they abuse them. That's their right. Not yours to stop them.[/QUOTE]
See the post above yours.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;17114237]I didn't say they would completely disregard the negatives about meth, all I said was they would be more likely to try it because it's easy to obtain and legal. A person may try it, like it, say "ill do it one more time" and they end up getting killed from it. It does happen where it is very hard to get, and relatively expensive, why don't you think it can happen easier where it is cheaper and very easy to obtain?[/QUOTE]
I think that find that, historically, people are more inclined to try things that are harder to get rather than the things that are easy to get.
Because tabooed subjects are usually more attractive. And how does legalization = very easy to obtain?
[QUOTE=Oecleus;17114277]Why prohibit the sale of certain explosives?[/QUOTE]
Because they are an enormous danger to bystanders.
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[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114298']People abuse them, harm others, and become a burden on society.[/QUOTE]
Harming others is ALREADY ILLEGAL. If someone harms someone else, they are a criminal.
Banning drugs accomplishes nothing and it does not prevent violent crime, it CAUSES it.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17114302][editline]07:21PM[/editline]
That's already illegal. Who cares why they do it, it's illegal. Anyone in jail is a burden on society.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but at least when they are in jail they cannot continue to harm others, and fuel the drug market.
Most of you have no experience with drugs and take the rare horror stories that the media says are 100% likely to happen, and act as if it's fact.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;17114277]Why prohibit the sale of certain explosives?[/QUOTE]
Are you really comparing drugs and explosives?
Do you just try to make yourself look as stupid as possible?
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114331']Yes, but at least when they are in jail they cannot continue to harm others, and fuel the drug market.[/QUOTE]
If you harm someone, you go to jail.
What the fuck is so wrong with you that you think it's okay to arrest people because they MIGHT harm someone?
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114331']Yes, but at least when they are in jail they cannot continue to harm others, and fuel the drug market.[/QUOTE]
There's more murders in jails then outside of it?
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[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17114341]Are you really comparing drugs and explosives?
Do you just try to make yourself look as stupid as possible?[/QUOTE]
He did that pages and pages ago.
Who the fuck keeps dumbing me?
Also you can own explosives if you have a license and approved storage in accordance with the ATF. The issue with most illegal weaponry is it is an inherent danger to bystanders if handled improperly. Snorting coke isn't going to present an immediate danger, a pound of C4 is.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17114345]There's more murders in jails then outside of it?
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He did that pages and pages ago.[/QUOTE]
Nope, yet another problem with our criminal justice system.... personally i think more efforts should be focused on the murders, etc. I just think drugs should remain illegal.
This is all from Title 27 if you don't believe me.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;17114277]Why prohibit the sale of certain explosives?[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114378']Nope, yet another problem with our feudal system.... personally i think more efforts should be focused on the murders, etc. I just think drugs should remain illegal.[/QUOTE]
Feudal system
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114321]Because they are an enormous danger to bystanders.[/QUOTE]
Wow nice thought crime, just because some people use explosives poorly doesn't mean all will, you are trying to place freedom and enjoyment over human life.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114321]Banning drugs accomplishes nothing and it does not prevent violent crime, it CAUSES it.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't, if drugs were completely removed the world would be a much better place.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17114279]...The amount of stupidity you have is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if you've convinced yourself this, or are just straight out admitting defeat. Or, maybe just too stupid to see any arguments being made. You really need to put yourself in my shoes, and see the argument instead of just ignoring everything that is written and saying "UR DUM"
[QUOTE='[LOA] SonofBrim;17114378']Nope, yet another problem with our feudal system.... personally i think more efforts should be focused on the murders, etc. I just think drugs should remain illegal.[/QUOTE]
There's no reason for them to be. It creates more crime to have em banned then not.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17114357]Also you can own explosives if you have a license and approved storage in accordance with the ATF. The issue with most illegal weaponry is it is an inherent danger to bystanders if handled improperly. Snorting coke isn't going to present an immediate danger, a pound of C4 is.[/QUOTE]
snorting coke causes buildings to blow up
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