[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17133099]Indeed, if there is no such thing as objectivity, you cannot reasonably disagree with anything.[/QUOTE]
No, since there there is no such thing with objectivity you CAN disagree with everything. And yeah, not everything has an answer champ, welcome to life. There isn't some guide book as to what should and shouldn't. Different people, different morals.
This just in: Neolk is a fucking idiot.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133134]No, since there there is no such thing with objectivity you CAN disagree with everything. And yeah, not everything has an answer champ, welcome to life. There isn't some guide book as to what should and shouldn't. Different people, different morals.[/QUOTE]
You are wrong. Maybe you think that is the case because your morality dictates it but you are wrong.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17133127]What objective basis do you have for making such an assertion?[/QUOTE]
I'm comparing the two to show there is no such thing as objectivity, since nothing is absolute (cept vodka pun pun pun).
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[QUOTE=Doriol;17133141]This just in: Neolk is a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the contribution Doriol.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133145]I'm comparing the two to show there is no such thing as objectivity, since nothing is absolute (cept vodka pun pun pun).[/QUOTE]
If there is no such thing as objectivity then you cannot assume that you are correct.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133134]No, since there there is no such thing with objectivity you CAN disagree with everything. And yeah, not everything has an answer champ, welcome to life. There isn't some guide book as to what should and shouldn't. Different people, different morals.[/QUOTE]
No. If there is no objective answer, all points are equally valid always.
Because you would not be, you would be universally wrong on every level.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17133154]Because you would not be, you would be universally wrong on every level.[/QUOTE]
Just because nothing has an absolute answer doesn't mean I'm not correct, I'm saying no one is correct, and at the same time, everyone is correct.
Hey, guys, I think... he's either a downy, or a troll.
It's impossible to reasonably disagree with the existence of objectivity. If you didn't have objectivity, then in reality, nothing works.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133163]Just because nothing has an absolute answer doesn't mean I'm not correct[/QUOTE]
Yes it does. There is no correct if there is no objectivity.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133087]Or maybe it is correct my good man?
If people make laws, and people are governed by morals, laws will always be governed by morals.
In another world or another universe, 2+2 could equal fish. And fine, if you use the same definition of laws and numbers, it will never change, fine.
But that would mean people using the same definition of what is morally correct. Thats like saying 2+2=4, objective, so abortion is wrong, also objective.
That isn't the case. another universe is our opinion.[/QUOTE]
Changing the terms does not change the concepts and therefore if fish = 4, 2 + 2 could = fish and be the same.
No matter how you do shit, the concept of "two" of something, in addition to the same amount of that something, equals twice as many twos, or "four" of something. Always.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17133175]Changing the terms does not change the concepts and therefore if fish = 4, 2 + 2 could = fish and be the same.
No matter how you do shit, the concept of "two" of something, in addition to the same amount of that something, equals twice as many twos, or "four" of something. Always.[/QUOTE]
2+2 is 11 in base 3.
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I think
[QUOTE=KingPurge;17133170]Hey, guys, I think... he's either a downy, or a troll.
It's impossible to reasonably disagree with the existence of objectivity. If you didn't have objectivity, then in reality, nothing works.[/QUOTE]
Ya, because I disagree with you I'm a troll, caught me.
There is more to life than a+b=c. People elsewhere will see a+b=d.
And yeah I get the logic, "If everyone is right then that means we are right and you are wrong so blah". That may be, but since we are talking about morals: ala, disagreements, I will defend what I say is right and say what you say is wrong, regardless of if yours is right in the grand scheme or if mine is right. Because in the end, it doesn't matter, its a fall back. it is a question of shifting my morals, not the worlds.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17133182]2+2 is 11 in base 3.
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I think[/QUOTE]
Indeed it is. However while the system representing the numbers has changed, the quantities themselves have not.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133190]There is more to life than a+b=c. People elsewhere will see a+b=d.[/QUOTE]
Maybe that's what you THINK, but you are not correct because there is no objectivity.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17133192]Indeed it is. However while the system representing the numbers has changed, the quantities themselves have not.[/QUOTE]
Precisely. 2+2 is always 11 in base 3. There is no changing that.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17133175]Changing the terms does not change the concepts and therefore if fish = 4, 2 + 2 could = fish and be the same.
No matter how you do shit, the concept of "two" of something, in addition to the same amount of that something, equals twice as many twos, or "four" of something. Always.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Two in Spanish is dos, just because it's a different word doesn't mean it's an entirely different thing.
Two = dos, and dos = two. dos + two = 4. two + two = cuatro.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133163]Just because nothing has an absolute answer doesn't mean I'm not correct, I'm saying no one is correct, and at the same time, everyone is correct.[/QUOTE]
logically fallacy
[QUOTE=Lankist;17133196]Maybe that's what you THINK, but you are not correct because there is no objectivity.[/QUOTE]
All viewpoints are valid, and my viewpoint is that only my viewpoint is valid.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133190]Ya, because I disagree with you I'm a troll, caught me.
There is more to life than a+b=c. People elsewhere will see a+b=d.
And yeah I get the logic, "If everyone is right then that means we are right and you are wrong so blah". That may be, but since we are talking about morals: ala, disagreements, I will defend what I say is right and say what you say is wrong, regardless of if yours is right in the grand scheme or if mine is right. Because in the end, it doesn't matter, its a fall back. it is a question of shifting my morals, not the worlds.[/QUOTE]
No. Because you're arguing that there's an objective answer that objectivity doesn't exist is why. You hit yourself in the face with that one. You can't possibly believe objectivity isn't real if you disagree with it and think you're right. If there is no objective answer, the world does not function.
If they see a+b=D then they're not seeing the whole equation.
MY DICK IS 13 INCHES BECAUSE I SAY SO IT'S ALL OBJECTIVE baaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133190]
There is more to life than a+b=c. People elsewhere will see a+b=d.
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And we call those people "challenged".
[QUOTE=Doriol;17133209]MY DICK IS 13 INCHES BECAUSE I SAY SO IT'S ALL OBJECTIVE baaaaaaaaaaaaaaw[/QUOTE]
Subjective, you mean.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17133196]Maybe that's what you THINK, but you are not correct because there is no objectivity.[/QUOTE]
As I said, I will defend that I'm correct just as you defend you are, as I will defend there is no objectivity as you will. Since there is no concrete answer and it is up for grabs, either can be accepted. Things have no answer, but different people will agree with different theories in different numbers.
Hence why laws will always have morals.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17133214]Subjective, you mean.[/QUOTE]
whatever you want babe :pervert:
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133219]As I said, I will defend that I'm correct just as you defend you are, as I will defend there is no objectivity as you will. Since there is no concrete answer and it is up for grabs, either can be accepted. Things have no answer, but different people will agree with different theories in different numbers.
Hence why laws will always have morals.[/QUOTE]
I defend objectivity's existence.
You are defending the notion that you are wrong because you are right because I am wrong because we are wrong because ALTERNATE UNIVERSE ANALOGY.
[QUOTE=Neolk;17133219]As I said, I will defend that I'm correct just as you defend you are, as I will defend there is no objectivity as you will. Since there is no concrete answer and it is up for grabs, either can be accepted. Things have no answer, but different people will agree with different theories in different numbers.
Hence why laws will always have morals.[/QUOTE]
You cannot defend that you are correct if there is no objectivity because there is no such thing as correctness.
You do not understand law.
Go to school.
[QUOTE=KingPurge;17133207]No. Because you're arguing that there's an objective answer that objectivity doesn't exist is why. You hit yourself in the face with that one. You can't possibly believe objectivity isn't real if you disagree with it and think you're right. If there is no objective answer, the world does not function.
If they see a+b=D then they're not seeing the whole equation.[/QUOTE]
From a third person perspective everyone has different answers, and I believe from my morals that I am right.
Stop having sex with my brain.
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