[img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ktehy8zz1qbz9meo1_500.jpg[/img]
very much related to the above
[editline]2nd August 2012[/editline]
the pilot laying on the floor of the chopper died.
[QUOTE=W0w00t;37048448][img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ktehy8zz1qbz9meo1_500.jpg[/img]
very much related to the above
[editline]2nd August 2012[/editline]
the pilot laying on the floor of the chopper died.[/QUOTE]
I actually have that magazine at home, if I had a scanner id upload the article.
I find it kinda hard to feel sorry for Americans who died in Vietnam. I mean, i'm not up on your history, so if I'm wrong please correct me...but it's kinda like feeling sorry for the Germans that died in Stalingrad.
How about fuck you?
Irregardless of what the war was about, we sent them to that country, many of them conscripts. Hell, I'm Australian and we sent people there too. 500 paid the price, 50,000 Americans did too.
Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yea, fuck you
[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;37048907]I find it kinda hard to feel sorry for Americans who died in Vietnam. I mean, i'm not up on your history, so if I'm wrong please correct me...but it's kinda like feeling sorry for the Germans that died in Stalingrad.[/QUOTE]
Conscription and drafts bro. Half of them didn't even want to go.
Don't get me wrong, I think that the vietnam war was stupid and useless, but I think your post is also fucking stupid.
Also realise that Germans fucking hated fighting in Stalingrad.
[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;37048907]I find it kinda hard to feel sorry for Americans who died in Vietnam. I mean, i'm not up on your history, so if I'm wrong please correct me...but it's kinda like feeling sorry for the Germans that died in Stalingrad.[/QUOTE]
what the fuck?
[QUOTE=download;37048942]How about fuck you?
Irregardless of what the war was about, we sent them to that country, many of them conscripts. Hell, I'm Australian and we sent people there too. 500 paid the price, 50,000 Americans did too.
Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yea, fuck you[/QUOTE]
irregardless aint a word
[QUOTE=Araknid;37048944]Conscription and drafts bro. Half of them didn't even want to go.
Don't get me wrong, I think that the vietnam war was stupid and useless, but I think your post is also fucking stupid.
Also realise that Germans fucking hated fighting in Stalingrad.[/QUOTE]
See know I didn't know America used conscription at the time. I was under the impression they all went willingly.
So yes. poor fucking bastards. War is hell.
you have alot to learn
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;37048962]irregardless aint a word[/QUOTE]
it is now
It still baffles me that we can have a functioning military without any conscription at all. Just the fact there are enough people willing to give their life for their country for said country to be safe just seems weird to me.
[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;37048907]I find it kinda hard to feel sorry for Americans who died in Vietnam. I mean, i'm not up on your history, so if I'm wrong please correct me...but it's kinda like feeling sorry for the Germans that died in Stalingrad.[/QUOTE]
Why don't you feel sorry for the Germans who died in Stalingrad? They didn't want to be there, hell most of them weren't even Nazi's, they had to go, just caught up in the whole thing.
[QUOTE=_Axel;37049236]It still baffles me that we can have a functioning military without any conscription at all. Just the fact there are enough people willing to give their life for their country for said country to be safe just seems weird to me.[/QUOTE]
Take the number of deployed soldiers againt the amount of injured/dead soldiers and you will see you have very good odds of living, it is a job for when you need money, need something important in your life, or want to see the world.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;37049374]Why don't you feel sorry for the Germans who died in Stalingrad? They didn't want to be there, hell most of them weren't even Nazi's, they had to go, just caught up in the whole thing.[/QUOTE]
and that is why he is stupid and received many boxes to put his posts in
[QUOTE=_Axel;37049236]It still baffles me that we can have a functioning military without any conscription at all. Just the fact there are enough people willing to give their life for their country for said country to be safe just seems weird to me.[/QUOTE]
Not always true, Israel for example pretty much requires mandatory military service if it is going to survive (for now). While it can be argued that they are as much the aggressors as their neighbors it's not really their fault that every country around them want's them gone and never wanted them there in the first place.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Israeli_Tanks_Cross_the_Suez_Canal_-_Flickr_-_Israel_Defense_Forces.jpg[/img]
very famous photo of an Israeli tank crossing the Suez during the Yom Kippur war (1973)
[QUOTE=wizard`;37049710]Not always true, Israel for example pretty much requires mandatory military service if it is going to survive (for now). While it can be argued that they are as much the aggressors as their neighbors it's not really their fault that every country around them want's them gone and never wanted them there in the first place.
[/QUOTE]
Israel shouldn't be there.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;37050015]Israel shouldn't be there.[/QUOTE]
Well too bad it is.
[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;37048907]I find it kinda hard to feel sorry for Americans who died in Vietnam. I mean, i'm not up on your history, so if I'm wrong please correct me...but it's kinda like feeling sorry for the Germans that died in Stalingrad.[/QUOTE]
You should feel bad for all the men who died in stalingrad, the majority of which didn't believe in the ideologies of the nation that they were fighting for, just that they were fighting for their homelands.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37050077]You should feel bad for all the men who died in stalingrad, the majority of which didn't believe in the ideologies of the nation that they were fighting for, just that they were fighting for their homelands.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, most German soldiers weren't nazis, they just thought they were fighting for a good cause, just like the German people thought it would be a good idea to elect Hitler as chancellor.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Chubbuck[/URL]
[QUOTE]Christine Chubbuck was an American television news reporter who committed suicide during a live television broadcast.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/3.-christine-chubbuck.jpg[/IMG]
Again, not exactly world shaking, but I believe she was the first to commit suicide on live TV
just imagine how disturbing it'd be if you were watching the news at that time..
Does anyone have the original video of the broadcast?
I wasn't able to find it on liveleaks or anywhere else
[QUOTE=Akito8;37050754][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Chubbuck[/URL]
[IMG]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/3.-christine-chubbuck.jpg[/IMG]
Again, not exactly world shaking, but I believe she was the first to commit suicide on live TV
just imagine how disturbing it'd be if you were watching the news at that time..
Does anyone have the original video of the broadcast?
I wasn't able to find it on liveleaks or anywhere else[/QUOTE]
After a quick bit of research, I couldn't find the video . Yet, I found out that it was an inspiration for the movie Network - which is brilliant!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_qgVn-Op7Q[/media]
As requested, My grandfather
[img]http://i.imgur.com/tYNGuh.jpg[/img]
He was a ranger during the pacific campaign during WWII. He died of Alzheimers when I was about 10 years old, so I never really knew him. I've talked to my uncles and have learnt a bit more about him.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3rES2h.jpg[/img]
him holding a rifle
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Et9Wgh.jpg[/img]
His squad.
Back in the 70's, my uncle went to the post office to pick up some stamps. He noticed they had some WWII commemorative stamps, so he bought a sheet for his dad. When he got home and gave it to my grandfather, he almost immediately started sobbing. When my uncle got him to calm down, my grandfather pointed to a picture of a soldier with a flamethrower and told him a story from the war. During one of the island invasions, I can't remember which, he was assigned to carry a flamethrower. Him and his squad came across a cave, their translator called out into the cave, demanding the Japanese surrender. A man yelled back and said they would fight to the death and weren't coming out, so their squad leader ordered my Grandfather to burn them out of the cave. He walked up to it and gave it a quick burst from his flamethrower. He backed off when he started hearing screaming, then a dozen women and children came running out of the cave, covered in flames. His squad leader ordered his men to gun them down so they wouldn't suffer. "The bastards used women and children as shields, George, hit the cave again!" He hit it again and the Japs came running out, his squad leader ordered his men to let them all burn out. The scene of all those people burning to death were scarred into his memory.
My uncle told the story from when he was in Manila. He told me my Grandfather could remember at least 32 people that he had killed during the war, and the most specific was an 18 year old Japanese soldier in Manila. He was in a house when he rounded a corner, and saw a Japanese soldier there, he shot him and the soldier immediately fell. He saw he was still alive and went to the man, in english the soldier asked him to send photos and letters back to his family, my grandfather held the mans head until he died.
Sorry if these stories are poorly written, I really don't do them justice. I've got an entire photo album from his service, I can upload them and post them here if people want to see them all.
[QUOTE=Akito8;37050754][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Chubbuck[/URL]
[IMG]http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/3.-christine-chubbuck.jpg[/IMG]
Again, not exactly world shaking, but I believe she was the first to commit suicide on live TV
just imagine how disturbing it'd be if you were watching the news at that time..
Does anyone have the original video of the broadcast?
I wasn't able to find it on liveleaks or anywhere else[/QUOTE]
You can't.
Their is the Daniel V. Jones and Dwyer suicide though.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37051238]As requested, My grandfather
[img]http://i.imgur.com/tYNGuh.jpg[/img]
He was a ranger during the pacific campaign during WWII. He died of Alzheimers when I was about 10 years old, so I never really knew him. I've talked to my uncles and have learnt a bit more about him.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3rES2h.jpg[/img]
him holding a rifle
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Et9Wgh.jpg[/img]
His squad.
Back in the 70's, my uncle went to the post office to pick up some stamps. He noticed they had some WWII commemorative stamps, so he bought a sheet for his dad. When he got home and gave it to my grandfather, he almost immediately started sobbing. When my uncle got him to calm down, my grandfather pointed to a picture of a soldier with a flamethrower and told him a story from the war. During one of the island invasions, I can't remember which, he was assigned to carry a flamethrower. Him and his squad came across a cave, their translator called out into the cave, demanding the Japanese surrender. A man yelled back and said they would fight to the death and weren't coming out, so their squad leader ordered my Grandfather to burn them out of the cave. He walked up to it and gave it a quick burst from his flamethrower. He backed off when he started hearing screaming, then a dozen women and children came running out of the cave, covered in flames. His squad leader ordered his men to gun them down so they wouldn't suffer. "The bastards used women and children as shields, George, hit the cave again!" He hit it again and the Japs came running out, his squad leader ordered his men to let them all burn out. The scene of all those people burning to death were scarred into his memory.
My uncle told the story from when he was in Manila. He told me my Grandfather could remember at least 32 people that he had killed during the war, and the most specific was an 18 year old Japanese soldier in Manila. He was in a house when he rounded a corner, and saw a Japanese soldier there, he shot him and the soldier immediately fell. He saw he was still alive and went to the man, in english the soldier asked him to send photos and letters back to his family, my grandfather held the mans head until he died.
Sorry if these stories are poorly written, I really don't do them justice. I've got an entire photo album from his service, I can upload them and post them here if people want to see them all.[/QUOTE]
I wish your grandfather was still alive so I could give him a massive hug. That is something no one should have permanently ingrained in their heads
Here in Europe "Batman shooting" was like "Again? Wow, they are really bored in USA!" It wasn't a shocker. I bet that sooner or later something like that will happen again. Whole summer was full of retards killing people.
[QUOTE=Griffster26;37051529]You can't.[/QUOTE]
Well, you find the original tape, but if someone recorded it somehow, a video might exist.
I really want to see this. I guess I don't have to explain why since pretty much every regular of this thread knows why. In short, Curiosity.
[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;37048907]I find it kinda hard to feel sorry for Americans who died in Vietnam. I mean, i'm not up on your history, so if I'm wrong please correct me...but it's kinda like feeling sorry for the Germans that died in Stalingrad.[/QUOTE]
Many men who fought in Vietnam were drafted in whether they liked it or not. Anybody who was forced into a war they didn't want to fight deserve our sympathy. This is real life, not a video game, it isn't a case of good and evil. You're ignoring the suffering of other human beings.
Today, I found out that my German grandma was not only alive during WW2, but she -vividly- remembers it, even though she was ~10 then. Today she was telling me about hiding in a basement as Americans bombed their town, and then she told me about how the Americans broke into their houses, stole jewelry, shattered pictures, just generally ransacked the places. They thought everyone was a Nazi. It's pretty terrible. There was no "good guys" during WW2.
I'm sorry for going back to Chernobyl again, now we're talking about Vietnam, but I'm currently watching BBC Horizon: Inside the Sarcophagus.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8r_lUKcM9A&feature=related[/media]
Apparently there are massive holes on the surface of the Sarcophagus, it wasn't meant to be hermetically sealed, it was meant to just cover the radioactive smoke from the melting core.
The holes in the Sarcophagus allows enormous amounts of highly radioactive nuclear dust to pass through, and in time, the molten radioactive waste itself will dustify.
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hY4_WqQjUxc/T5dhRBFsGMI/AAAAAAAAGKc/Z_tvC45wn-g/s1600/Elephant_s+Foot+1996.jpg[/img]
Elephant Foot (its surface alone emits 10,000 rads), the same waste that was posted a few pages back, will turn into dust too.
And they said the Sarco will last for 30/40 years. Wonderful Soviet quality right there.
I've searched high and low but I couldn't find the progress of the 'new' Sarcophagus, anyone know anything about it?
[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;37048907]I find it kinda hard to feel sorry for Americans who died in Vietnam. I mean, i'm not up on your history, so if I'm wrong please correct me...but it's kinda like feeling sorry for the Germans that died in Stalingrad.[/QUOTE]
-snip, no bans for me-
No, seriously. You have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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