Steroids thread v2: haha im so jacke- oh god there is milk leaking out of my nipple help - General

[QUOTE=Seith;37948394]How much is training relevant when on a cycle? Let's say I were to sit my ass and eat a surplus, would it matter whether I train or not and if so, is it a significant difference?[/QUOTE] Would be a huge difference. training/stress is still needing to set off the growth and repair processes. There's one study that suggests men given various amounts of testosterone for 20 weeks all grew significant lean mass without weight training, but when you read between the lines it becomes pretty evident: No control to make sure they did not weight train, all the participants were young adult males with previous weight lifting experience, and then when you consider that there's a huge sub culture of steroid users that literally scour clinical trials where they might get free gear or test a new anabolic substance..... Well I very much doubt that study is accurate to say the least.

Haha, good point, I did not read the study.

shit I was calculating the cost of a cycle and it would cost me $600 for the masteron alone brb becoming a coke dealer

STILL NO PICKLES

[QUOTE=Lemonator;37967118]shit I was calculating the cost of a cycle and it would cost me $600 for the masteron alone brb becoming a coke dealer[/QUOTE] wtf, a vial of masteron should not set you back more than $90 and most of the canadian websites sell them in 150mg/ml concentrations so you're actually getting it even cheaper (more steroid). Unless your in AUS, different story lmao. Nobody in australian understands economics and competitive pricing.

It's 600 for 8 weeks of Masteron, check the prices on that site I posted above

[QUOTE=Lemonator;37968140]It's 600 for 8 weeks of Masteron, check the prices on that site I posted above[/QUOTE] Stop using that site then motherfucker!!!! Every other canadian site stocks medistar gear and none of them have masteron at more than $90 per vial. 500 x 8 = 4000. That's 4 vials if they are all 100mg/ml. The medistar masteron appears to be 150mg/ml vials which means you will have heaps left over.

Wow, my source (US Domestic) has 22ml vials of 200mg/ml Masteron for 100 bucks a pop. 12ml vials for 60. They don't ship out of the US though.

I think op read the llewellyn anabolics guide

[QUOTE=Shovelpass;37971783]Wow, my source (US Domestic) has 22ml vials of 200mg/ml Masteron for 100 bucks a pop. 12ml vials for 60. They don't ship out of the US though.[/QUOTE] LINK? :OOOO

not a steroid but I'm gonna do a melanotan 2 cycle

[QUOTE=Lemonator;38038668]not a steroid but I'm gonna do a melanotan 2 cycle[/QUOTE] melanotan owns.

i'm gonna start using protein heard it's good for building mussels.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;38043774]i'm gonna start using protein heard it's good for building mussels.[/QUOTE] ye but your body can't use more than 50g of protein a day pls dont go over this, it's very bad for your kidneys and extra protein is stored as fat....

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for my source (snip) what is the best inhibitor besides aromasin since I can get a discount when I order a certain amount of bottles (I'm going to cycle with a buddy) I'm still talking the masteron+test prop cycle btw

[QUOTE=Lemonator;38053666]for my source (musclegear) what is the best inhibitor besides aromasin since I can get a discount when I order a certain amount of bottles (I'm going to cycle with a buddy) I'm still talking the masteron+test prop cycle btw[/QUOTE] Letrozole. you will have to play with the dosage however, letrozole is very powerful stuff.

[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;38054310]Letrozole. you will have to play with the dosage however, letrozole is very powerful stuff.[/QUOTE] Will slightly balance out the ridic sex drive while running mast too I assume

[QUOTE=Lemonator;38066696]Will slightly balance out the ridic sex drive while running mast too I assume[/QUOTE] If you annihilate your estradiol you can kiss your libido goodbye at least for a few days.

[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;38074201]If you annihilate your estradiol you can kiss your libido goodbye at least for a few days.[/QUOTE] Not with masteron. Nothing stops the sex drive effects of masteron unless your dosing letro at 2.5mg ed taha. [editline]17th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=JaegerMonster;38043950]ye but your body can't use more than 50g of protein a day pls dont go over this, it's very bad for your kidneys and extra protein is stored as fat....[/QUOTE] Extra protein isn't stored as fat. It's converted to glucose, and I'm sure the process of converting protein to glucose costs more energy than just eating glucose. So basically replacing glucose with protein, gram for gram, will speed up your metabolism and definitely make you more lean.

[QUOTE=ToxicJoy;38076812]Not with masteron. Nothing stops the sex drive effects of masteron unless your dosing letro at 2.5mg ed taha. Extra protein isn't stored as fat. It's converted to glucose, and I'm sure the process of converting protein to glucose costs more energy than just eating glucose. So basically replacing glucose with protein, gram for gram, will speed up your metabolism and definitely make you more lean.[/QUOTE] ........ I think its time for you to go outside, you can't detect when someone isn't being serious anymore. [QUOTE=ToxicJoy;38076812]Not with masteron. Nothing stops the sex drive effects of masteron unless your dosing letro at 2.5mg ed taha. [/QUOTE] .... and I clearly said "if you crush your estradiol". Don't care how androgenic masteron is, if you have no estradiol you are going to have a hard time keeping it... hard 2.5mg of letrozole ed would destroy your estradiol levels.

haha my b, just testing your knowledge a little lol i see you've been the one posting the most round here.. what cycles do you have under your belt? and yeah im aware 2.5mg of letro will do such a thing,,, along with make your skin shrinkwrap to your muscle because of deadly low fat levels along with a nice diuretic effect, taha.

considering ordering some aromasin separate then, This cycle has all the inhibitors running during the cycle so I won't need any legit PCT right?

mast-test will definitely need a pct. I'd recommend nolvadex which you can get in liquid form from: [url]http://www.rui-products.com/[/url] along with doing 20mg of liquid nolvadex daily post cycle, you should also try and get a hold of some d-aspartic acid. the best product containing d-aspartic acid is testforce2. it's sold on amazon and many other places. if you take those two together for a month or even a little longer every day you'll be able to retain much more muscle and avoid some bitchy tits. nolvadex is a legit pharmacutical pct but it's sold as a research chemical on rui's site. the liquid is pretty awful tasting and burns your throat, so mix dat shit with some oj.

I can get it for 60 dollars in oral form Strength: 20mg per tab Size: 50 tabs Also what is the reason that I have to do an 8-10 week cycle? I was looking to do a 6 week cycle in the first place but what's the reason I should be going longer?

[QUOTE=ToxicJoy;38083600]mast-test will definitely need a pct. I'd recommend nolvadex which you can get in liquid form from: [url]http://www.rui-products.com/[/url] along with doing 20mg of liquid nolvadex daily post cycle, you should also try and get a hold of some d-aspartic acid. the best product containing d-aspartic acid is testforce2. it's sold on amazon and many other places. if you take those two together for a month or even a little longer every day you'll be able to retain much more muscle and avoid some bitchy tits. nolvadex is a legit pharmacutical pct but it's sold as a research chemical on rui's site. the liquid is pretty awful tasting and burns your throat, so mix dat shit with some oj.[/QUOTE] DAA does fuck all. Best product containing it is pure DAA, virtually every product that simply contains DAA doesn't even contain very much. Regardless, it would do nothing to help a PCT. DAA doesn't stimulate your testicles into starting up again (the entire point of PCT), there's just been some sketchy study on it that says it can boost natural test production up to 30 percent, but that's most likely just marketing bullshit. 60 bucks for 50 20mg tabs is a rip off. [url]http://www.mpresearchsupply.com/store/products/TAMOXIFEN-20MG-x-40ct.html[/url] [url]http://www.mpresearchsupply.com/store/products/TAMOXIFEN-40MG-x-40ct.html[/url] Both are the same price because tamox(nolva) is cheap as dirt, you're pretty much paying for the labor required to capsulize and package it. I've used MPR's nolva in the past so I can attest to its legitimacy.

[QUOTE=Shovelpass;38083992]DAA does fuck all. Best product containing it is pure DAA, virtually every product that simply contains DAA doesn't even contain very much. Regardless, it would do nothing to help a PCT. DAA doesn't stimulate your testicles into starting up again (the entire point of PCT), there's just been some sketchy study on it that says it can boost natural test production up to 30 percent, but that's most likely just marketing bullshit. 60 bucks for 50 20mg tabs is a rip off. [url]http://www.mpresearchsupply.com/store/products/TAMOXIFEN-20MG-x-40ct.html[/url] [url]http://www.mpresearchsupply.com/store/products/TAMOXIFEN-40MG-x-40ct.html[/url] Both are the same price because tamox(nolva) is cheap as dirt, you're pretty much paying for the labor required to capsulize and package it. I've used MPR's nolva in the past so I can attest to its legitimacy.[/QUOTE] There's plenty of research backing D-Aspartic Acid at 3g and Calcium Chelate at 3 grams boost testosterone stimulation by about 50%. You don't use Google Scholar too often do you?

lol 50 percent Yeah buddy, whatever you say. If that were true, it would be flying off the shelves. But if you want to keep burning money on useless supplements, that's totally cool. Even if it did do what you claim, it wouldn't help in PCT as it does nothing to actually get the balls up and running again. There's a difference between test production and restarting test production. If DAA played a part in that, they would be giving men on TRT who are coming off to have kids DAA alongside their HCG.

[QUOTE=Shovelpass;38084810]lol 50 percent Yeah buddy, whatever you say. If that were true, it would be flying off the shelves. But if you want to keep burning money on useless supplements, that's totally cool. Even if it did do what you claim, it wouldn't help in PCT as it does nothing to actually get the balls up and running again. There's a difference between test production and restarting test production. If DAA played a part in that, they would be giving men on TRT who are coming off to have kids DAA alongside their HCG.[/QUOTE] this. DAA, or SERMs like nolva and clomid for that matter, do nothing to help clear the roadblock to recovery which is testes not responding to LH. [editline]18th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lemonator;38081433]considering ordering some aromasin separate then, This cycle has all the inhibitors running during the cycle so I won't need any legit PCT right?[/QUOTE] did you read anything???? Yes you will need to see to a PCT. Metabolite inhibitors do nothing to help your gonads. You will need HCG.

I want to maintain sub 9% bf levels while gaining muscle, whats the best shit out there to improve insulin sensitivity and calorie partioning?